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Salt is lovely. That and hot sauce are my food vices.
NinjaBoiX
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It took a while for me to really get into them, but yeah, totally awesome band.
Repeater, In On The Kill Taker and The Argument are too good. I'm not a huge fan of Guy's voice though, I hate how he ends words in that whiny drone. Ian just fucking goes for it, Guy sounds like he can't be bothered half the time.
Edit: sweet, I'll check out that track later.
Mint!
What do I win?
Hot sauce makes everything better.
Boring old tin of tuna with boiled rice and veg? Whack a few drops of this bad boy to transform it:
Like god's salty spicy tears.
Do you like Minor Threat as well?
Screaming Meat
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It's on Repeater so you probably know it. Man, The Argument is the epitome of "all killer, no filler".
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
The Argument is my only Fugazi record. What are the other must hears? Repeater?
I nabbed last year's Desaparecidos (Conor Oberst Bright Eyes' punk band) 7" tracks yesterday and have been listening to them non stop. Fuck YES. Love this style of punk, super chunky and loud and really angry. I need more. Fans of them should check out Titus Andronicus, also amazing.
I nabbed last year's Desaparecidos (Conor Oberst Bright Eyes' punk band) 7" tracks yesterday and have been listening to them non stop. Fuck YES. Love this style of punk, super chunky and loud and really angry. I need more. Fans of them should check out Titus Andronicus, also amazing.
There's a song called 'Margin Walker' which is belting.
Screaming Meat
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Definitely Repeater. Listen to that track I posted above (Blueprint) when you get a chance, it's my Everlong
Out of the others, I guess Red Medicine is the really essential one. Warning: it's pretty Picciotto heavy.
NinjaBoiX
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Yeah, but only in passing. I don't have any of their albums.
Ah, so it is! I'm terrible with track names at times.
Yes, that The Argument is pretty much perfect.
I'd say The Argument and Repeater are the best records. Never been a huge fan of Red Medicine, but the rest are excellent.
And therein lies the problem....
I loved Desaparecidos from the other day, well good!
Screaming Meat
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I know this wasn't aimed at me but I went through a big hardcore phase. bad brains were my favourite until I found out they were quite the homophobes. Overall tho Dead Kennedys are just way way my favourite of all the punk bands, UK and US.
Yeah I've heard that about Bad Brains too and never bothered listening to them. In the past I've tried listening to Dead Kennedys and Reagans Youth but could never really get into them. I like 7 Seconds and Gorilla Biscuits as well who are labelled as Hardcore. But Minor Threat are probably my favourite Hardcore band.
NinjaBoiX
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Choice.
And my personal highlight from Repeater to give Jed a taste:
Fugazi - Merchandise
Edit: Dead Kennedy's rock Sploat. Not a massive fan of his voice, but the music is amazing.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I can't get into old hardcore at all, far too quick and brittle for me, not too much of a groove in there. Hardcore starts for me in 1997 with Refused
Screaming Meat
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I'll just leave this here....
Botch - C. Thomas Howell as the 'Soul Man'
The pay off towards the end is genuinely stunning, especially after the no nonsense abrasiveness of the beginning half.
EDIT:
Last one, I promise:
Jerome's Dream - It's More Like A Message To You
Botch - C. Thomas Howell as the 'Soul Man'
The pay off towards the end is genuinely stunning, especially after the no nonsense abrasiveness of the beginning half.
EDIT:
Last one, I promise:
Jerome's Dream - It's More Like A Message To You
I can't get into old hardcore at all, far too quick and brittle for me, not too much of a groove in there. Hardcore starts for me in 1997 with Refused
I can't link you up, but have you heard later DKs? It has a wall of punky guitar thing but still a bit angular.
Try 'Moon Over Marin' it's one of my favourite songs ever.
Yeah his voice is definitely an acquired taste but their guitarist is just incredible.
I had a BLT baguette and a packet of salt and pepper Kettle Chips.
titusandronicus
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If you like Fugazi and haven't seen Instrument, do so now. I really liked Fugazi before, but watching Instrument made me really appreciate them. I had my mouth open during the live performance of Shut the Door, I was blown away.
Tesco sushi and tropical juice.
Lunch of kings (who only work near a Tesco Express and not much else)
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
I feel the same way about Converge. I appreciate them for their skill and influence but it's a bit too heavy for day-to-day listening. But their live DVD is fucking unreal, it's like watching a sport or something. So impressive.
NinjaBoiX
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It sounds like someone is violently shaking him while he sings.
I've heard the Instrument record, I didn't realise there was a DVD. What, is it just a live set? Documentary?
I've had supermarket sushi once, it was super sweet like it had been dipped in syrup.
Blergh.
But yeah, sushi is rather delicious.
Screaming Meat
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In that case, definitely give Botch a listen. I think the guitarist went on to play for/form Minus The Bear (not my bag, but he's a genuinely great guitarist).
Not seen it. It's on the list!
Musha_Soturi
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If you can just stop then good on you, but most people can't. Also you tend to put it off if you think you can just stop.
The book is just very clever, going in to all the reasons we think we smoke, and why we actually smoke, and getting rid of those reasons. Just read it, if you don't stop then no harm done right?
Musha_Soturi
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Converge are awesome
Screaming Meat
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This is all true. Yeah, I'll give it a looksee.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, though; I'm under no illusions that it'll be easy. The idea of stopping is terrifying.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Converge are fucking awesome but literally all I need is the first two tracks from Jane Doe. Literally the heaviest, rockingest 4 minutes of music ever recorded, it's absolutely perfect. By track 4 I have a headache though
It makes me sad that the Jamie Lenman album is not online anywhere. There is a song called One of My Eyes is A Clock that everyone who likes heavy music needs to hear, it's absurdly heavy.
NinjaBoiX
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I just stuck Jane Doe on YouTube, I lasted about five minutes. :/
It started well, nice angular riffage and manic drumming, then the tuneless, nonsensical screaming came in. I just can't get away with it, it's just someone screaming into the mic, I don't get it. It's not as bad as when dudes do that low pitched growl though, nothing will turn me off music quicker. It just comes off as super cheesy to me.
As an embellishment to a proper vocal with a melody and stuff it can really work, but when your whole vocal track is comprised of either screaming or growling, no thanks. If I had to pick, I suppose screaming is better than growling, simply because it sounds more natural. You could almost buy that someone is so angry, all they can do is scream into the mic.
But who the fuck growls? Like, ever?
titusandronicus
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It's like a documentary but there is also live footage throughout.
EDIT: Yeah I could not listen to a whole Converge record, even though I love a lot of their songs. Good thing about power violence albums are that they are so short if you want something intense.
Do they kick any crowd surfers out in the live footage?
titusandronicus
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Can't remember, been so long since I seen it, though I don't think so.
They play in a correctional facility though and some dudes start playing on the instruments, pretty cool.
Musha_Soturi
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Converge are fucking awesome but literally all I need is the first two tracks from Jane Doe. Literally the heaviest, rockingest 4 minutes of music ever recorded, it's absolutely perfect. By track 4 I have a headache though
It makes me sad that the Jamie Lenman album is not online anywhere. There is a song called One of My Eyes is A Clock that everyone who likes heavy music needs to hear, it's absurdly heavy.
I saw them at Download last year. Didn't have a clue who they were, I was going to see HIM who were on after them, got there early and was just blown away, they are so fucking good live.
And this is why you'll never be in to metal
I always found that kind of awesome about Fugazi that they'd stop a show when someone got too violent or crowd surfed. Its annoying when I'm watching some band and some dickhead lands on my head or kicks me in the head. Although at the same time it is fun to watch from a far.
Musha_Soturi
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No generally someone asks a mod to close it after a page of everyone trying to get the last word
NinjaBoiX
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No, a "rate the avatar" thread recently went up to 400/200 + pages.
Haha, yeah pretty much. It's a shame, because I often like the music.
Slipknot is a good example of a band using growling to good effect, it's sporadic and therefore has more impact IMO.
Yeah, they're really vigilant about stuff like that. Fair play I say.
I'll def check out that Fugazi doc, nice one.
bobs...onGaf
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Finding somewhere to live in Oxford is a hassle. Long shot but no one has any advice do they?
Jedeye Sniv
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Omg ninja and his adventures in missing the point
converge's vocal is one of the harshest I can imagine, sure, but that's the whole point. It's like the sound of vocal chords and sandpaper, pure fire emitted orally. Blistering, incoherent, inconsolable. It's like complaining about a snuff movie being too violent But yeah, 5 mins is about all I can manage too!
Omg ninja and his adventures in missing the point
But yeah, 5 mins is about all I can manage too!
Oi! Listen to Moon Over Marin!
I saw At The Drive-in years ago and they were the same. It was lovely tbh. It's nice to be able to stand near the front and not get shoved.
Screaming Meat
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Awwww, I'd have loved to have seen them in their hey day. Volta just don't cut it.
If you haven't already, check out that Botch track a few posts up the page when you get a chance, it may be right up your street.
You just wait two to three days until I get in front of a computer and post a link to some amazing live footage of them.
Seriously though, they were as good as you'd expect.
Musha_Soturi
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Oh I will as soon as I get home!
So annoying not being able to listen to all the tunes when theyre posted, Im sure Ive probably missed loads 
Screaming Meat
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You're not helping my aching loss here.
Man, I've done fuck all today... Terrible. That's phone work for you, when no one's picking up what can you do?
Lemme know what ya think.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Just listened to it, was pretty good, better sounding than I was expecting. Funny how obvious the link is to the Sex Pistols. I have a hard time getting into that up-n-down old skool punk vocals but I do think Jello Biafra is one of those dudes you have to give the benefit of the doubt to
Aw yeah brah, my dick hard. How had I never heard this?! It's like a metal version of Shellac
NinjaBoiX
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What a wonderful analogy!Omg ninja and his adventures in missing the point
But yeah, 5 mins is about all I can manage too!
I get that the vocals are meant to elicit a strong emotion, which is why they sound so pained and angry, and in that sense they nailed it. I just don't personally like that style of vocal, certainly not to that extent.
But I loved that Blood Brothers track the other day, and that dude was screaming! But it was still clear what he was saying, and it was interspersed with portions where he was just singing, if somewhat manically.
It's just the relentless nature of certain death/black metal bands assault on your senses, It's just a bit overboard sometimes for me.
It's not like a hate metal full stop, I like plenty of heavier bands. But like any genre, some bands are a little more extreme than others!
TL;DR - I'm just not man enough for black/death metal.
Your boy Josh is the same, he don't take any shit! I've seen him shut down some dickheads in a very embarrassing manner.
Papa Roach track?
Screaming Meat
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I thought you knew! I THOUGHT YOU KNEW!
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