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Chromecast |OT|

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Quasar

Member
Marty Chinn said:
I think you're looking at it in a less optimal way. You shouldn't need software on your server to make it work. As long as it's using standard protocols like Samba for network file sharing, then you use that instead adding in an additional piece of software to talk to. It's just like how XBMC doesn't need software at the other end for it to stream media. You just point it to the source and it can grab from there. In the case of an app on your phone or tablet, all you do is have it find the source through open standards like Samba, and then that gets pushed to the Chromecast as the source and it can read from there at that point.
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Well I'm not sure how much less running a samba server on your NAS is than running a DLNA one or a Plex one.

The issue in all this though is unless all your media is in the exact formats the ChromeCast device can handle it needs some processing beforehand. Certainly that a major part of Plex, the other part being it manages a fancy interface with tons of metadata. And I'll admit thats a part that makes me like it over a pure DLNA system with boring filelists and such that you get with a DLNA setup on last gen consoles.
 
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Quasar

Member
Have to say I'm bummed, by not surprised by the ban on implementing ChromeCast support in explicit apps.

It does actually make me wonder about the future of commercial adult entertainment (be it magazines, books, or video) given the whole move to apps (be it in tvs, phones, of other boxes). That whole side of thing is more and more stuck in the open web ghetto.
 
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xKilltheMx

Member
Quasar said:
Have to say I'm bummed, by not surprised by the ban on implementing ChromeCast support in explicit apps.

It does actually make me wonder about the future of commercial adult entertainment (be it magazines, books, or video) given the whole move to apps (be it in tvs, phones, of other boxes). That whole side of thing is more and more stuck in the open web ghetto.
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Wait what? Ban? WTF
 
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SimleuqiR

Member
Quasar said:
Yeah. Playboy was wanting to add ChromeCast support in some video app of their and Google said no, and that explicit content wouldn't be allowed.

http://gigaom.com/2014/02/03/no-chromecast-porn-apps/

Apparently there's a no-nudity clause in the ChromeCast SDK.
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But but but HBO go...and Game of Thrones....There are titties and asses everywhere.
Hell True Detective had one of the best pair of knockers I've seen in a while, yet people can watch it on Chromecast.
 
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NH Apache

Banned
Yeah, that sure sounds like a double standard. Has Google taken this route with other products historically? IIRC, this is very unlike Google.
 
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Quasar

Member
NH Apache said:
Yeah, that sure sounds like a double standard. Has Google taken this route with other products historically? IIRC, this is very unlike Google.
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Well, with android they seem to have just said 'not on the play store', hence you have things like the pornhub app existing on android, but not on the play store.

Shame they could not at least do the same for Chromecast enabled apps. Of course my preference would be for an adult tab on the play store for adult apps. Android and its OS all have rating and adults only/children settings.
 
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hodayathink

Member
Quasar said:
Well, with android they seem to have just said 'not on the play store', hence you have things like the pornhub app existing on android, but not on the play store.

Shame they could not at least do the same for Chromecast enabled apps. Of course my preference would be for an adult tab on the play store for adult apps. Android and its OS all have rating and adults only/children settings.
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As much as this annoys me (and trust me, it annoys me a lot), I think one of the reason that they aren't allowing it (at least right now), is that Chromecast doesn't actually have parental controls. At all. Or really any controls to decide who can stream or what they can stream.

Basically, if you can get your device (PC or phone) on to the network, then you can stream to any Chromecast on that network. So it would be really easy to send porn to anyone's Chromecast as long as you had a way onto the network, and it would take precedence over what was already streaming. Maybe if the next generation of devices implement some type of device settings like parental controls for content (they've already got metadata they can filter by) or allowing you to decide what devices can connect to your Chromecast, then they'll get a little more lax about the rules. But I doubt it.
 
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Quasar

Member
Though that does not stop casting of adult material from a device with say allcast or from a remote server with plex. Even though I'd think permission from the networks owner should be enough, I guess this could be it. Though I'm not sure they want to add complexity with say allowing to manage a whitelist of apps allowed to cast to a chromecast.
 
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NH Apache

Banned
More Bubble info:

1.8.0
Finally, full Chromecast support with optional transcoding for playing non natively supported media.
Play your music, videos and photos to your Chromecast, whether located on your Android device, your local network or the cloud!
Playing Chromecast natively supported media is unrestricted in the free version of BubbleUPnP.
Playing transcoded media requires installing BubbleUPnP Server 0.8 on your network, and is limited to 20 minutes per app launch in the free version of BubbleUPnP.
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So as I understand it, Bubble can play all the suff on a lan pc to the chromecast, controlled by the phone. I'm not quite sure what formats would work without being transcoded, in terms of video.
 
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SimleuqiR

Member
NH Apache said:
More Bubble info:



So as I understand it, Bubble can play all the suff on a lan pc to the chromecast, controlled by the phone. I'm not quite sure what formats would work without being transcoded, in terms of video.
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https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/media

Video codecs: H.264 High Profile Level 4.1, 4.2 and 5, VP8
Audio decoding: HE-AAC, LC-AAC, CELT/Opus, MP3, Vorbis
Image formats: BMP, GIF, JPEG, PNG, WEBP
Containers: MP4, WebM
Containers: MPEG-DASH, SmoothStreaming, HTTP Live Streaming (HLS)
Level 1 DRM support: Widevine, PlayReady
Subtitles:
TTML - Timed Text Markup Language
WebVTT - Web Video Text Tracks
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tirminyl

Member
Just played a little with BubbleUPnP. I really like it. Love queuing up my local content to play. This is especially great timing since my Google TV died :-(
 
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Quasar

Member
Anyone imported a ChromeCast to Australia lately?

I'm interested in a second and was looking for the cheapest option around. With the free netflix coupon gone using my previous route of a remailer service isn't as cheap as it once was.

I'd thought about the Fishpond 50$ option, but a few people seem to have had a bad experience there. So I'm wondering what my options are.
 
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SimleuqiR

Member
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...dds-built-in-chromecast-streaming-for-videos/

Google has been buffing up the capabilities of the Chromecast as of late by opening up app access with the SDK, and it looks like even first-party apps are getting in on the action. The latest release of the beta version of Chrome for Android adds in Chromecast capability for YouTube videos. Theoretically, it should work for any standard HTML5 video as well. Now you don't need a laptop to cast web videos to your television.
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Pretty Neat.
 
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Splash Wave

Member
How's the quality with HBOGO? I'm thinking about getting a Chromecast because my PS3 doesn't support the app (fuck Comcast), and the quality is shit if I plug my laptop into the TV with HDMI. Would Chromecast be a good solution, or will I run into more quality issues?
 
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zewone

Member
Jimmy Stav said:
How's the quality with HBOGO? I'm thinking about getting a Chromecast because my PS3 doesn't support the app (fuck Comcast), and the quality is shit if I plug my laptop into the TV with HDMI. Would Chromecast be a good solution, or will I run into more quality issues?
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It displays in 1080p. Quality seems to be the same between my Chromecast and PS3. Not a bad choice at all.
 
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teiresias

Member
Jimmy Stav said:
How's the quality with HBOGO? I'm thinking about getting a Chromecast because my PS3 doesn't support the app (fuck Comcast), and the quality is shit if I plug my laptop into the TV with HDMI. Would Chromecast be a good solution, or will I run into more quality issues?
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I actually find the streams themselves to be more reliable on Chromecast then through the web interface as well. The web is buffer central for me, but the Chromecast rarely has issues.
 
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Pocks

Member
teiresias said:
I actually find the streams themselves to be more reliable on Chromecast then through the web interface as well. The web is buffer central for me, but the Chromecast rarely has issues.
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I have had the same experience. HBO Go alone makes the Chromecast worth it.
 
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Quasar

Member
The ChromeCast feature of Plex is now available to all users. Apparently. Works really well for the most part.

And the subtitle size control issue has also been fixed.
 
R

reKon

Banned
anyone see that Roku stick? Nice to have options, but I'll still stick with Chomecast because of the flexibility and potential
 
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CoffeeJanitor

Member
I just used this for the first time tonight...Wow, I know it's in the name, but it really is shit that they force you to use Chrome to make this thing work. Also, I found that I couldn't have a non-youtube non-Netflix video playing on full screen while I did other things. So I couldn't alt-tab out of there to continue working while my video played.

Overall...Gross. Felt like Google was trying to force me into the ecosystem.
 
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thespot84

Member
CoffeeJanitor said:
I just used this for the first time tonight...Wow, I know it's in the name, but it really is shit that they force you to use Chrome to make this thing work. Also, I found that I couldn't have a non-youtube non-Netflix video playing on full screen while I did other things. So I couldn't alt-tab out of there to continue working while my video played.

Overall...Gross. Felt like Google was trying to force me into the ecosystem.
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did they remove the experimental full screen casting?
 
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bob page

Member
CoffeeJanitor said:
I just used this for the first time tonight...Wow, I know it's in the name, but it really is shit that they force you to use Chrome to make this thing work. Also, I found that I couldn't have a non-youtube non-Netflix video playing on full screen while I did other things. So I couldn't alt-tab out of there to continue working while my video played.

Overall...Gross. Felt like Google was trying to force me into the ecosystem.
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It's called the Chromecast.
 
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Quasar

Member
NH Apache said:
Yeah, also you don't need chrome to use the chromecast.
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The device itself kind of runs Chrome. My impression though its more some kind of unholy Chrome/Andoid mashup.

That said I do wonder if someone could craft a Firefox extension to enable casting of Firefox tabs.
 
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krpiper

Member
Does the WWE network work on this?

Also I dunno if this is possible but lets stream say, Twitch on a tab, can I write a paper in a different tab at the same time or can I only do one thing at a time?
 
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Quasar

Member
krpiper said:
Does the WWE network work on this?

Also I dunno if this is possible but lets stream say, Twitch on a tab, can I write a paper in a different tab at the same time or can I only do one thing at a time?
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From my digging the WWE App doesn't support chromecast at the moment but you can cast the website. I've not really used the tab casting feature, but I assume you can cast one tab whilst looking at another.
 
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NH Apache

Banned
So, no free version of Plex anymore?

Edit: When the chromecast was in beta, they said it would come to free. Then they take away the free after the chromecast beta. SMH
 
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OriginalThinking

Member
Quasar said:
The device itself kind of runs Chrome. My impression though its more some kind of unholy Chrome/Andoid mashup.

That said I do wonder if someone could craft a Firefox extension to enable casting of Firefox tabs.
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No the device actually runs Android. But it's branded as Chromecast likely to avoid Android TV confusion and because it works in a way quite unlike other android devices.
 
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NH Apache

Banned
yyzjohn said:
The app isn't free in the play store is what he's saying I think.
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Which is odd, because it says:

Keep your phone in your pocket, as your photos are backed up safely in a Plex library, and then you can access them on all Plex apps, share them with friends or family, or (of course) fling them to your Chromecast (free for everyone now!).
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Which I guess means that they won't charge you more? I'm just disappointed on the DLNA front.
 
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