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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided PC performance thread
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Depends on your definition of broken. It's definitely better than on release, it's easily completable, although there are still some lingering problems. I don't remember if blurring of faces was fixed, or those specific spots where framerate tanks even on powerful rigs (cpu bound maybe?).
Maybe people that completed the game can provide more valuable information.
Maybe people that completed the game can provide more valuable information.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Nixxes released a patch on Nov 3 with this snippet:
I didn't find any updated benchmarks so I decided to check it out:
980Ti + 4770K.
DX12:
DX11:
Overall seems like DX12 is in a much better state now, at least based on the benchmark. Would be cool to see if AMD GPUs have better gains than before.
I didn't find any updated benchmarks so I decided to check it out:
980Ti + 4770K.
DX12:
DX11:
Overall seems like DX12 is in a much better state now, at least based on the benchmark. Would be cool to see if AMD GPUs have better gains than before.
Sorry, I hadn't realized the OP had all that fancy articles
I'll play a bit with the settings, and if I have any doubts I'll return here. In any case, thanks.
dr_rus
Member
It always was in a "pretty good state" in the built-in benchmark. Gameplay was where it crapped itself.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
I wouldn't say that. There was always a performance regression of up to 10% in minimums and average, at least in my particular setup. Now it's on par or slightly better.
In any case, the benchmark is easily a 'worst case scenario' for GPU performance, so I decided to do a 5 minute walk-around of Prague and end it with a firefight. Recorded stats with MSI Afterburner.
DX11
avg: 62.1
min: 47.8
DX12
avg: 61.6
min: 45.4
Frametimes were slightly less spiky in DX12. I didn't observe any significant drops or stutter. Take that as you will, but to me, in this game, it looks like DX12 isn't any worse than DX11 anymore.
It never was.
A few specific settings (none of which even exist on consoles IIRC) were not working correctly for a week or so.
So those CPU bound locations in Prague no longer cause stutter/framedrop?
Very High shadows are no longer pixellated in Jensen's room?
TAA+tesselation no longer blurs faces?
Sharpening no longer oversharpens the image causing ringing artifacts?
DX12 no longer works worse than DX11?
I am only aware that the CHS bug was fixed, if all other issues were fixed too, then great, I can finally start playing it.
Very High shadows are no longer pixellated in Jensen's room?
TAA+tesselation no longer blurs faces?
Sharpening no longer oversharpens the image causing ringing artifacts?
DX12 no longer works worse than DX11?
I am only aware that the CHS bug was fixed, if all other issues were fixed too, then great, I can finally start playing it.
HardOCP tested DX12 after all the patches and driver releases - shocker, it's still shit:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/11/18/deus_ex_mankind_divided_dx12_performance_review/8
They tested the actual GAME, not the benchmark, which is know to misleadingly show that DX12 performance is better than DX11.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/11/18/deus_ex_mankind_divided_dx12_performance_review/8
They tested the actual GAME, not the benchmark, which is know to misleadingly show that DX12 performance is better than DX11.
spleenpoker
Member
Thinking of buying the game today but reading snippets of this thread is giving me doubt. I don't want another ROTR situation.
How will i be able to run this? 6600k, 1060 6gb, 16gb ram and ssd.
Thanks all
How will i be able to run this? 6600k, 1060 6gb, 16gb ram and ssd.
Thanks all
icecold1983
Member
Thinking of buying the game today but reading snippets of this thread is giving me doubt. I don't want another ROTR situation.
How will i be able to run this? 6600k, 1060 6gb, 16gb ram and ssd.
Thanks all
1080p high preset should be good for 60
spleenpoker
Member
Much appreciated. Sorry I forgot to mention I will be playing at 1080p so thats great news.
Ok im confused. This is the next game im tackling on my list after xcom2 and Im hearing dx12 is worse? How?
My specs:
Gtx980
i5 4690
8gb ram
Win10 latest
Dx12
I ran the benchmark and my lowest fps was 7 (there were 2 points where it paused for a second Im guessing why). My average was 57fps. My highest was 63fps.
I have everything on "high" and all else "on" except msaa and chromatic aberration. Exclusive fullscreen is on.
Should I go back to dx 11? Im hearing of this "prague" area being bad? I just want to have a decent first experience.
My specs:
Gtx980
i5 4690
8gb ram
Win10 latest
Dx12
I ran the benchmark and my lowest fps was 7 (there were 2 points where it paused for a second Im guessing why). My average was 57fps. My highest was 63fps.
I have everything on "high" and all else "on" except msaa and chromatic aberration. Exclusive fullscreen is on.
Should I go back to dx 11? Im hearing of this "prague" area being bad? I just want to have a decent first experience.
icecold1983
Member
No one should use dx12 in this game with your cpu. The benchmark also doesnt accurately represent in game performance
Just wanted to report back that at the settings I posted, the game runs pretty smoothly. Im surprised actually.
Dx 12 also ran well in rottr as well for me. So I guess that makes sense.
Im wondering if I should change it to dx11 to see an even greater boost? Afraid to touch it now. Lol.
icecold1983
Member
it will run faster under dx11
I've added it to the "Slightly improve performance" tidbit.
Got this yesterday and have been tweaking the settings abit. My rig is:
I7-4770K 3,5ghz
Windforce R9 390X 8 GB, factory overclocked.
16gb DDR3 Ram @ 1600 mhz
SSD
Putting everything at max except shadows (high), contact hardening shadows (off) and volumetric lighting (on), no MSAA, the benchmark gets me:
Min: 47 fps
Max: 63 fps
Average: 55 fps
in DirectX 12 mode at 1080p.
I'm happy with that performance to be honest. Most likely getting a bit more out of it in-game since the benchmark seems pretty demanding. There is no tearing on my screen.
I7-4770K 3,5ghz
Windforce R9 390X 8 GB, factory overclocked.
16gb DDR3 Ram @ 1600 mhz
SSD
Putting everything at max except shadows (high), contact hardening shadows (off) and volumetric lighting (on), no MSAA, the benchmark gets me:
Min: 47 fps
Max: 63 fps
Average: 55 fps
in DirectX 12 mode at 1080p.
I'm happy with that performance to be honest. Most likely getting a bit more out of it in-game since the benchmark seems pretty demanding. There is no tearing on my screen.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Have they fixed the ambient occlusion issues yet?
Flickering, yes, coverage, no.
Toothless Spoon
Member
For me DX12 causes mad stuttering, but DX11 is very minimal to no stuttering. I'm not sure what would cause it.
The DX12 renderer is best avoided. Even AMD cards perform better under DX11, which is interesting as I imagine it was AMD that insisted upon DX12 support due to the game being a part of its Gaming Evolved program (see: Watch Dogs 2). Talk about a misfire.
dr_rus
Member
Tbh the whole DX12 is a total misfire for now. Which isn't exactly surprising for those who knew how it will go beforehand. Two games where DX12 does provide a nice boost are both PC exclusive strategy game (AOTS and TWW) and in case of one of them the boost is limited to AMD h/w only (TWW). Rest of DX12 renderers which we are able to compare to DX11 are nothing short of pointless as even when there's a gain it's usually hangs below 10%.
Gears of War 4 uses DX12 and runs great, but sadly there is no comparison to DX11.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/11/23/gears_war_4_dx12_performance_review
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/11/23/gears_war_4_dx12_performance_review
Unknown Soldier
Member
No. But there are many possible reasons why.
Tell us a bit more about your machine and maybe we can help.
No, I have the same thing and it runs fine. How much ram do you have?
flipswitch
Member
What about ROTTR, didn't that receive a boost?
People began reporting improvements in the end, yeah.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Boo, lame. I figure at this point it's never getting fixed.
hmm yeah i got 16 gigs. Actually is that the 3 gig vram 1060 or 6 gig. That would probably make a huge difference.. If so you might need to turn some shit down i bet.
well.. i will say the minimum recommended ram is 8 gigs so maybe upgrading to 16 would maybe help.. I in fact also had 8 gb ram before going to 16 gb and the game ran like shit. But also upgraded from a 750 to a 1060 so I can't say for sure my experience would be directly applicable to yours.
dr_rus
Member
Kinda, depending on your GPU and only in hub areas which were CPU limited in playable resolutions. All in all DX12 in RoTTR is mostly unnecessary as well, the game runs just fine in DX11.
Grasping at straws - are you running the game on SSD, or HDD?
icecold1983
Member
for amd yes, nvidia only when cpu limited
HDD. SSD is just for my OS.
There's a tiny chance drops are cause by hdd reads (streaming), but it's a stretch.
9.2 GB patch just dropped:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/91592053123483032
9 gigs for that?
9.2 GB patch just dropped:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/91592053123483032
9 gigs for that?
Bl@de
Member
Hi,
any tipps for the best settings to get 1440p and 60fps (at least 95% of the time)?
My system: Xeon E3-1230 v3 | GTX 980 Ti @ 1.403/3.815 MHz | 16GB DDR3 | Crucial MX100 SSD
DX11 obviously...
Found my perfect settings for solid min. 60fps (in Outdoor Praha) up to 90fps (in Buildings). Game still looks fantastic
any tipps for the best settings to get 1440p and 60fps (at least 95% of the time)?
My system: Xeon E3-1230 v3 | GTX 980 Ti @ 1.403/3.815 MHz | 16GB DDR3 | Crucial MX100 SSD
DX11 obviously...
Found my perfect settings for solid min. 60fps (in Outdoor Praha) up to 90fps (in Buildings). Game still looks fantastic