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Deus Ex Mankind Divided Pre-Order program canceled
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Always has to be something to bitch about eh
A shitty idea was abandoned, who cares, it's a good thing
The bean counters definitely asked for this. Marketing delivered a warm turd in a hamper.
I think you misunderstood what people meant. Square-Enix don't care about what gets unlocked. They could have claimed any number and unlocked any silly in-game bonus, doesn't matter.
What they do care about is how much money they are getting and what their day-1 sales will look like. And low pre-order numbers mean less money for Square-Enix. So of course they care about low pre-order numbers.
PapaEmeritus
Member
I'd love if that was true, that's what needs to happen.I think with everything coming out now, it's not a top priority to pre order- Now if this came about in say January when it's slow- we wouldn't have gotten this withdrawal letter.
GavinUK86
Member
I didn't have a problem with it but it's nice to hear that they listen to fans. I've had the CE preordered since it was announced anyway so it doesn't really matter.
The cynic in me can think of all sorts of reasons to why they've worded it like they have but it's Deus Ex, it's Eidos Montreal, it's Square Enix. They've never gave me reason to doubt them before so I won't now.
The cynic in me can think of all sorts of reasons to why they've worded it like they have but it's Deus Ex, it's Eidos Montreal, it's Square Enix. They've never gave me reason to doubt them before so I won't now.
Don't think it's the fans who they heard. More likely Boogie2988 and TotalBiscuit. Both slammed their scheme, hard. Justified-ly so.
Should be a box quote for the game.
One Foul Note
Member
I guess it is a positive thing that happened here in the long run. Although I can't help but imagine that this was the result of unexpectedly low pre-order numbers rather then an actual response to outcry. A service like this can't be cheap to maintain so if Square were not seeing a positive rise in pre-order numbers then it is in their interest to just dump the entire system, go back to a more conventional pre-order bonus system and spin it like 'we listened to you.' Just a prediction of course.
PapaEmeritus
Member
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Damn so they're not even going to push the game up to the Feb. 19th release date? Guess that was truly preorder exclusive...
I'm not bitching, I just think that is the fact of the situation. This should have been turned around a long time back when it was obvious that it was not liked, for an otherwise highly anticipated game. The reason it wasn't turned around so soon was simply business, rather than feedback.
I'm happy they are changing it, but it doesn't really change anything for me. I'll get it if the reviews are reasonable
Jawmuncher
Member
I still didn't think it was that big of a deal.
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
So no need to preorder, as the same contents will be in the Day 1 Edition.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Its always good to adults act like children over video games.
In a nutshell, yes.
But... What is a Day One Edition nowadays? Just the first batch of the game that comes with a slightly different box art and some extra DLC codes in there? And since these get printed in such massive quantities, you can purchase a Day 1 version 30 days past the release date and not lose out on a single thing.
Unless they force the retailers to replace the stock with a non-day-one edition at some point, before it going out of stock.
R_thanatos
Member
I'm very happy by this turn of events
Icyflamez96
Member
I actually didn't expect them to shut it down.
tim_pkmn89
Member
Except nothing was stopping them from fudging the numbers. They never claimed how many preorders were required for each tier.
This pleases me.
Between Tony Hawks, Anita Sarkesean in the UN and this it could be anything next week, also isn't MGO due to be launched soon, more ammunitition on his #Fuckonami segment is inbound to.
I suppose we just found out what's going to be next Jimquisition's main topic too, right?
Between Tony Hawks, Anita Sarkesean in the UN and this it could be anything next week, also isn't MGO due to be launched soon, more ammunitition on his #Fuckonami segment is inbound to.
Awesome, was stupid to lock content from people (And to miss some of the content if I understand correctly?), forever based on choices and we should have just got all of it, or left all in the game at least.
While the concept of "everyone working together to get something" sounds good on paper at least, locking content away from others and this even possibly becoming a "standard thing" is even worse. Maybe they could have implemented this idea for just the week early thing, though personally I don't mind if I have to wait a week more for it to be more polished.
While the concept of "everyone working together to get something" sounds good on paper at least, locking content away from others and this even possibly becoming a "standard thing" is even worse. Maybe they could have implemented this idea for just the week early thing, though personally I don't mind if I have to wait a week more for it to be more polished.
outunderthestars
Banned
This is so far from the truth. They were going to release all of the content no matter how many pre-orders they received. They just were not expecting the backlash that this marketing stunt created.
NumberThree
Member
No one outside SE had to know anything about the amount of preorders. There could've been ten people preordering and they could've set the bar at whatever percentage they wanted.
ebullientprism
Member
This.
The outrage was a month ago. Most people have probably forgotten it by now. Ironically that also includes forgetting to pre order it. Nice try at saving face SE.
Spacecowboy77
Member
Good
exmachina64
Banned
This is the only explanation I'll believe.
The final tier unlockable reward was the most vile thing ever. It was essentially: give us money in exchange for an early release. I hate stuff like that. Most people should.
As for the rest of the DLC, maliciously cutting chunks out of the game in order to repackage them as pre-order bonuses... That's mean too.
If they had kept the tiers secret and reveal them bit-by-bit along the line, there'd been a gamification element. But they just came right out and slammed that shit on the players.
Thorwaldsson
Member
I don't really like pre-orders, but I'm gonna go ahead and make one now.
ultratruman
Banned
pre-order cancelled
They "listened" after recieving backlash from an idea that never should have existed in the first place if they said it out loud to themselves, will I give them props for backing down on this, sure, will I still fling shit at them for thinking this idea was going to fly in the first place, absolutely.
No you don't. Just buy the Day-1 edition which usually lasts a few weeks in retail.
ProfessorMoran
Member
This. I wonder how bad the numbers looked for them to fold like this.
Consumers always win in the end, it just often takes an awfully long time.
This is good. It was going to set a precedent, and I'm glad it will no longer do that. I wonder what game will try this again, though.
PapaEmeritus
Member
Sure until an outlet asks them how many pre-orders they had. Which they could still lie I suppose.
It's not factually wrong, There is multiple instances of this same thing happening and people were okay with it.
It's good that they listened but don't go and spread bullshit that it's suddenly not okay now but it was okay when other companies did it.