Neuromancer
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I wouldn't get your hopes up. They don't generally arrest people for this stuff for no reason.
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Developer from Precursor Games (Shadows of the Eternals) arrested for child porn
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This isn't some random background artist that recently joined the company, it's the co-founder. No friendly PR campaign is going to reverse this.
Precursor wasn't able to secure crowd-funding for their game before this incident. This is just the final nail in the coffin. They're better off disbanding at this point IMO.
Or one trip on 4chan or even Reditt. There was actually a case in the USA where the guy was let free because he proved that having Child pornography in your cookies is not a crime because you could get it from anywhere, from a Pop Up or a wrong click. So its not a crime to visit 4chan for example, but if you actively download image from the website that are illegal, then you can get busted.
How many time in my youth did I open a video from a torrent, thinking it was a movie and bam child pornography. Its one of the many reason why I dont go on torrent softwares anymore.
plagiarize
Banned
yep. that's why it is, and should be illegal. you're helping create demand for a product that is produced by the sexual assault of children if you even search for child porn.
it's also why lolicon, whatever, shouldn't be illegal. no one is harmed in the making of it, and there is no evidence that it encourages people to rape children. just as regular porn doesn't make people go and rape adults.
that only applies to stuff where it's clearly not real children being molested. if someone makes photorealistic fakes, those should be treated just as illegally, for practical purposes.
It happened to me once. In the days well before torrents. Once I realized what I'd stumbled on, I deleted that shit as fast as I could. I wish I could expunge it from my brain but it'll always be in there.
Neuromancer
Member
I don't know man. This guys getting charged for possessing, making it available to others and accessing it. That doesn't sound like an accident to me.
Nah, pretty sure she was referring to the legal system, as she was debatting with a dumb guy about what was the difference between Innocent and Guilty as the default point. The guy said "There is no difference, you still have to get a lawyer". He didnt understand that in a Guilty until proven innocent system, if you didnt have enough proof to prove you are innocent, then you would go to jail even if the prosecution have no proof. Which would be crazy really.
It was late, so it just sinked in my brain. I was pretty sure it was false anyway.
General_Frags
Member
The curse of Eternal Darkness 2 continues...
Leeching, seeding.
Doesn't apply to this case, but I remember back in the '90s or so, there were some shady porn sites (probably filled with other malware as well) which would just have lists of random words. We used to joke that you could type "cement" into Yahoo and still get porn.
All three charge can be link to a single torrent. You Download the torrent, which seed it to other people who download it from your computer, and then you open it to see the content. BAM Three accusation. Even if you delete it, you still had possession, distribution and consumption.
EDIT: That's why the one count is kind of confusing. Usually they arrest people who post on pedophile websites, or are part of email trade groups who trade videos and pictures. Its fairly rare that they go after Torrent guys, but it happen.
THIS CANT BE HAPPENING. - Denis Dyack
I don't think one count specifically means one piece of material. The accusation of distribution implies he had a significant amount for example.
Is there a Firefox add-on that just blocks all those illegal websites? Can the FBI help me out here?
From what I've seen on documentaries about this the authorities don't tend to waste their time on one time downloaders who might accidentally open this stuff. They're more concerned with pedobear rings and people who might be contributing to the content as well. Most of the people arrested have been under surveillance for a while and possibly been in contact with these pedobear rings which is why they came under the radar in the first place.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
IS this legit?
This could be some sort of misunderstanding.
A lot of people arrested for charges like this are not actually guilty.
This could be some sort of misunderstanding.
A lot of people arrested for charges like this are not actually guilty.
I've already heard of at least one case where a guy accidentally torrented one video of that stuff thinking it was normal porn, immediately deleted it, and emptied his recycle bin, only for the FBI to search him and find the deleted file a year later. I think he had to either serve time or register as a sex offender.
There are programs that manage your Windows or Linux hosts file and from there you just add sites like 4chan, Worldstar Hip Hop and other scummy sites to it. It's then impossible for your computer to translate the address in a way that will show those sites. You can also use Open DNS or programs like Net Nanny but I think those are impinging on my privacy too much.
Illegal websites are not found easily, they are mostly in the deep web. Even on 4chan, CP is a perma ban of the IP Adress. Which is kind of sad, because when you go to a school and 4chan is Prebanned for you, because of Child porn you think to yourself "Wait, somebody POSTED child porn from a computer of the school? REALLY?!"
So no, you wont "stumble" on a illegal website just like you wont stumble on an Al Quaida website. As they are not on google or search program and they dont want to be found by the cops.
ALBOFIGHTER
Member
first superdae and now this guy? It almost feels like if someone has a dispute with whoever, they can hack their pc and put some underage porn for the cops to find. I think that's more believable then a grown man with kids to actually be distributing that shit. I definitely don't believe it in the case of superdae.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
How many times have you been accused of possession of child pornagraphy?
I'm glad you were able to beat the charges though. The "It was a pop-up" defense tends to not work for many other offenders, though I'm sure they all try it.
EXACTLY
The FBI isn't just pulling IPs that downloaded a certain torrent and filling out court orders.
They're building a case against these people to support their accusations. Viewing emails and other online communications to determine intent along with download habits.
because what good does prosecuting accidental offenders do? If you're prosecuted with distribution you're considered a major contributing factor to its circle of production and distribution.
It was in my youth, hell I was on Kazaa if people remember this nightmare of a program. Canada is way way way more active online now.
I think you just won. What you won, I don't know. But you won.
Vermillion
Banned
lmfao
I missed that in the article for some reason, thanks. I guess I'm just trying to be nice about this whole thing but yeah, maybe it would be better just to move on from this project and lay low for a while.
Conspiracy nonsense. They're a company that has bad enough pr because of one of the founders, of course they're eager to distance themselves from a suspected paedophile.
The police will have to present evidence of whatever they accused him of and I highly doubt any police officer or anyone else would risk planting child porn on this guys computer. You'd have to be a fool.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Most likely is that child sexual abuse is one of the biggest taboos in modern society and no publicly operating company wants to touch the subject with a 10 foot pole.
Precursor Game's actions here are not indicitive of anything besides their hopes to not be known as the company that's run by child sex offenders.
Wait you were accused of the crime?
dragonbane
Member
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Oh jeez. Let's hope it's just hentai, or false charges altogether.
Wouldn't a suspension be sufficient for the time being? I get that they want to distance themselves but I probably would have expected more loyalty from the company towards its employee here. Like I said, for the time being, he's legally still an innocent man.
Community Forum
Member
Some of the ideas need time to mature.
Cops plant Cocaine on cars all day, sure in a computer its trickier because you can see "Well this file was create 2 day after I was put in jail." but its duable if you know what to do.
Dont forget that they Sillicon Knight do owe about 2 million to the Ontario governement and they went bankrupt and now most of the staff now work across town in a new location...
Dictator93
Member
You know... innocent till proven guilty...
Oh boy. Man.
Portugeezer
Member
Lol. I remember Kazaa... searching for some rap music video and it turned out to be some hardcore double penetration porn, not child porn, but I was young so it was a shock.
No, I'm saying that because I did not get arrested. The canada is looking more online now, and we do have stuff like Bait and all that, but me not getting caught for a accidental torrent, do not mean that other do not. Not all murders are resolved too.
What a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
Listen, the guy IS innocent until proven guilty, but let's not pretend child pornography officers are targeting Precursor Games because of a bad government subsidy.
plagiarize
Banned
In the US, one count means one piece of material, and distribution implies seeding. Perhaps in this case, they caught a bunch of people seeding one torrent, and haven't done any seize and searches yet. He might have more on his PC.
But yeah, one piece of possession is one count. one count of distribution is seeding one piece. it doesn't imply a significant amount at all, not these days.
legally considered innocent. we don't have to apply the same standards a court of law does, nor do we have to agree with the final ruling. I want to hear more before I decide for myself, but I'll make my own mind up, and I won't have to wait until a jury decide. he's either guilty or he's not, and whatever a court decides won't change that.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
but why???
What does that have to do with targeting this guy individually??
Why are people defending a CP distribution suspect with such huge leaps of logic???? I don't understand
My point was that most don't
So it seems weird to assume that most cases are in fact, just people that clicked a link they shouldn't have.
I mean I know the general public doesn't have a very high opinion of law enforcement, but I'd like to think they do a bit more than antagonize and frame and falsely accuse innocent civilians