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Devil May Cry Collection |OT| Over a Decade of Style
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lowhighkang_LHK
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I'm going in order of release.
1, 2 and 3.
2 serves a purpose, as it's a calm lull (borderline boring) between the intensity of 1 and the crazyness of 3.
Yeah, that 360 controller. You'll get what I'm saying with how you have to get used to it, but then again - anyone who has played DMC4 on 360 knows the importance of RB and you'll get back into the groove eventually. Don't fret.
If you feel rusty in DMC1, remember to check back on the mechanics in the menu screen. Press start (duh) to go the menu, and click over to the sub-menu "ACTION" It'll give you the basic control concepts for DMC1.
1, 2 and 3.
2 serves a purpose, as it's a calm lull (borderline boring) between the intensity of 1 and the crazyness of 3.
Yeah, that 360 controller. You'll get what I'm saying with how you have to get used to it, but then again - anyone who has played DMC4 on 360 knows the importance of RB and you'll get back into the groove eventually. Don't fret.
If you feel rusty in DMC1, remember to check back on the mechanics in the menu screen. Press start (duh) to go the menu, and click over to the sub-menu "ACTION" It'll give you the basic control concepts for DMC1.
I'd argue that DMC3 does story better than DMC1 as well, despite some overly campy moments in DMC3 it also had some moments of genuine moments of emotion, whereas when DMC1 went for anything serious it was usually cringe worthy. Also I don't know if I would agree that DMC3 Dante isn't a mix of serious demon hunter and cocky, stylish bad ass, maybe less than DMC1 Dante but he still did get serious at times.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Hmm, I figured my forearm was getting cramped because of the 360 controller. The Dual Shock is pretty DMC friendly if my memory serves correct.
Either way, my hand got acclimated to the 360 controller with DMC1 about an hour or so in. I'm sure you'll adjust to the Dual Shock even faster. Remember it's been a long ass time since DMC4's 2008. So it's been awhile since people were pressing shoulder buttons with face buttons whilst dodging and pulling off combos n' shit.
Long ass time since I wasted $90 on an import of that game lol
RiderKairuu
Member
Im rolling with the Type B setup. Even coming from DMC4 on the 360 I'm still adjusting but I'm managing so far. Yeah that RB is vital!
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Type B is where B is melee, A is jump/roll, X is shoot and Y is check/open?
RiderKairuu
Member
I was going to do that but then I realized that doing that will prevent me from playing DMC1, so I stopped after beating Cerberus.
Wolf Akela
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Anyone got a video of taunts?
RiderKairuu
Member
Vergil <3
Capcom should just full on remake these... they're so datedOr at least give me a game where I can play as Vergil again... and no, UMvC3 doesn't count.
"Wheres your motivation?"
"Wheres your motivation?"
I bought that game at full price just for him, thank you very much!
RiderKairuu
Member
Ditto! Lol I just get the feeling that that is as post DMC3 Vergil are we're going to get for a while. I hope I'm wrong though.
Black Republican
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what he said, though i dont mind which controller
There's some fan artwork and access to the BGM.
Hah, that's what I'm doing (3, 1, 2).
I just had to dive right into 3. Marathoned through and beat it in one sitting, no items, no breaks, just finished. That alone was worth the $40 to me. Damn, I love these games. Now I'm deciding whether to begin a new game on a harder difficulty or go into DMC1.
I'm gonna miss this series.
Not really. 360 controller is perfectly fine, and there doesn't appear to be any differences between the two versions.
Interesting, I didn't know Double Helix/Foundation 9 did work on this collection.
Anyway, I'm about to start it up. I'm gonna go in order. It should be fun.
EDIT: Also, one piece of DmC fan art did make it in. It's the one with the split Dante.
Oh stop it. It's not gone.
Anyway, I'm about to start it up. I'm gonna go in order. It should be fun.
EDIT: Also, one piece of DmC fan art did make it in. It's the one with the split Dante.
I'm gonna miss this series.
Oh stop it. It's not gone.
RiderKairuu
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Hah, that's what I'm doing (3, 1, 2).
I just had to dive right into 3. Marathoned through and beat it in one sitting, no items, no breaks, just finished. That alone was worth the $40 to me. Damn, I love these games. Now I'm deciding whether to begin a new game on a harder difficulty or go into DMC1.
I'm gonna miss this series.
For me, DMC3 was where everything peaked. I want to relive that feeling when I first got the game, that means slugging through DMC1 (which I enjoyed) and DMC2 (which I didn't hate as much as others).
MaverickHunterX
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Best buys are able to sell them early too.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Man, everyone who hasn't:
Go to the Soundtrack and put something badass on. Then go to the art vault and look at some of the shit from DMC1.
I've been a huge DMC fan since it's release and I have never seen many of these.
The one with Dante and Vergil as infants laying in a fetal position on top of the Umbrella symbol look interesting. I'd love if Kamiya could comment on that one.
Go to the Soundtrack and put something badass on. Then go to the art vault and look at some of the shit from DMC1.
I've been a huge DMC fan since it's release and I have never seen many of these.
The one with Dante and Vergil as infants laying in a fetal position on top of the Umbrella symbol look interesting. I'd love if Kamiya could comment on that one.
Oh sweet, really? I should tell my friend who pre-ordered a copy at Best Buy.
I'm really impressed with the gallery. It doesn't feel tacked on and full of images that are already plastered on the internet. It's good stuff.
It's funny because I was looking at that Umbrella Twins picture right before reading your post. It's pretty fascinating to see so much concept art of things that were scrapped from what was originally Biohazard 4.
You could try your luck and ask him about it on his twitter page.
I thought they could have been much worse if the leaked achievement list was real. I don't remember it asking you to SS everything on DMD for example.
RiderKairuu
Member
I forgot how satisfying it felt using Ifrit
Possible "Wesker children" before they changed it to DMC?
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
I forgot how satisfying it felt using Ifrit
I remember underestimating the power of a fully charged Ifrit attack back when I played this way back when. But I've been using it more now and you can kill a fetish with two quick shots, finished with two fully charged ones.
And Kick 13 is such a good move.
devastatorprime
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The gallery sounds amazing, cant wait to get my copy of the game. Hopefully some of the art is ripped eventually.
His response: "Oh" or "I see"
Sir Ilpalazzo
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They were originally the children of Oswell Spencer, and I think their eyes originally glowed red when they used their (presumably virus-given) powers, so probably something like that.
Cool, right on the money then:
The Wesker children, were an advanced race of human beings 'created' by Oswell E. Spencer, head of Umbrella Their creation was an operation known as Wesker Project, named after the director of the project, commonly shortened to Project W. This was one of the most significant viral operations centering around the Progenitor virus.
And Albert does pretty much the same thing (and he even used a DMC style Black coat, so I guess they decided to pay homage in his final appearance). Thinking about this...RE4 might have been even more over the top than alot of it's QTE encounters are already.
HYDE
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Maybe it's a reference of them being born from experimenting with Resident Evil.
Hence Umbrella children.
I can't wait to replay DMC1. Action gaming perfection. Compared to DMC3 it's the simpler game, but for me it does what it does so well that I'm more compelled to play it again, and trade DMC3's complexity for every other aspect of game design. Balancing the use of Devil Trigger, perfecting Alastor and Ifrit, every single boss battle...I remember the first time I figured out that Ifrit's Rolling Blaze repelled Nightmare's homing missiles, the first time I fought Nelo Angelo, "Flock off featherface!", the goddamn pirate ship, Mundus on DMD, perfectly timed Sin Scissor shotgun instakills; and Shadows! Best enemies in an action game, ever.
I'll play DMC2 for the hell of it, too. I gave a friend's copy a whirl when it came out and was too disappointed to play for long. Never picked it up myself. DMC3:SE I might skip for now. It's a phenomenal game, and I absolutely understand why it's such a fan favourite, but I played it to death twice (regular version, then SE) and despite the masterful combat mechanics and a few memorable moments it's not a game I'm desperate to return to. So much grinding before all options become available, and so many battles/levels felt like a chore by the time I stopped playing it on the PS2. But that's the great thing about a package that includes all three games. I hope we get a DMC5 evolved from the best elements of 1,3, and 4 some day. Hard to believe last gen gave us three DMC games, and this gen will only see one and a sub-60fps spin-off.
I'll play DMC2 for the hell of it, too. I gave a friend's copy a whirl when it came out and was too disappointed to play for long. Never picked it up myself. DMC3:SE I might skip for now. It's a phenomenal game, and I absolutely understand why it's such a fan favourite, but I played it to death twice (regular version, then SE) and despite the masterful combat mechanics and a few memorable moments it's not a game I'm desperate to return to. So much grinding before all options become available, and so many battles/levels felt like a chore by the time I stopped playing it on the PS2. But that's the great thing about a package that includes all three games. I hope we get a DMC5 evolved from the best elements of 1,3, and 4 some day. Hard to believe last gen gave us three DMC games, and this gen will only see one and a sub-60fps spin-off.
Vergil <3
Capcom should just full on remake these... they're so dated
But you can still do sick stuff like this!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGq3_K0aeLg
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Rolling Blaze knocks back's Nightmares missiles? I forgot about that. And here I was wondering why Nightmare Round 3 was pissing me off.
Sure does! Time it perfectly, and every missile in the salvo bounces off Dante and flies back into Nightmare. Probably the single most useful thing you can do with Rolling Blaze.
It deflects the Spikes and Boomerang as well which pretty much stuns Nightmare for a few seconds, enough for you to charge up a Meteor LVL2 for massive damage.
Rolling Blaze negates most small, low durability projectiles in the game and most physical attacks as well.
Wesker: "They said I could be anything I wanted... so I become a Sparda!"
Rolling Blaze does a lot more stuff than that. It shatters Nelo Angelo's Summoned Swords and if you time against Nelo Angelo's physical attacks the Rolling Blaze will parry his attacks leaving him vulnerable for counter attacks. Against Nightmare I already listed that you can deflect his Spike and Boomerang attacks negating them completely and stunning Nightmare for a few crucial seconds.
There is more mind blowing stuff where that came from.
Yes it is. The series is being replaced with a reboot called DmC: Devil May Cry which could well spawn its own new series.
The series as we know it is gone. That's a fact.
Holy shit at the Rolling Blaze info. I had no idea. D:
Phoenix Fang
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Weak sauce. They aren't hard at all, just damn time consuming.
I remember using Rolling Blaze for a long while simply because it looked cool as hell...and then I started spotting what it could do. I doubt I found everything in your list, but I remember knocking back Nightmarangs and spikes with it. The reason I said countering the homing missiles was the single most useful thing about RB is because it turns what may be Nightmare's most irritating attack into something that actually damages it. I think dodging with a roll never quite gets you clear of the last missile; they were super hard to avoid. That's why the memory is one of my all-time gaming highlights - Rolling Blaze missile counters were a game changer!
Nah. Capcom's not that stupid. DmC is like Resident Evil Outbreak - a terrible, experimental spinoff/cash-in that no one will buy, but which will not effect the main series.
RPGCrazied
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How are these ports? Silent Hill, or better?
Other than 2 HD sets, most have been bad.
Other than 2 HD sets, most have been bad.
There have been more good ones than bad ones.
Gold Tier:
Ico/SotC Collection
MGS Collection
GoW: Origins Collection
Silver Tier:
GoW Collection
BG&E HD
Sly Collection
Jak & Daxter Collection
DMC Collection (I'm assuming from impressions/vids)
Shit Tier:
PoP Collection
Splinter Cell Collection
Abortion Tier:
Silent Hill Collection
That's not true at all. Most HD ports have been great, actually.
MGS HD, ICO & SotC, both God of War Collections (especially Origins), Beyond Good & Evil, Dead Space Extraction, House of the Dead Overkill, Oddworld Strangers Wrath (60 fps), Tekken Tag, Sly Collection, etc.
All of these were of excellent quality with smooth, consistent framerates and properly implemented visual effects. Most of them smoothed out all of the annoying performance issues present in the original games as well. Even ports that were slammed a bit (like RE4) are still actual improvements over the originals (they simply failed to add anything else to the package).
The B-tier ports would include things like Splinter Cell, Price of Persia, and perhaps Jak and Daxter. Jak isn't bad at all but runs at sub-720p, which is unfortunate, but it's still a huge improvement over the originals. PoP is smooth enough, but not as polished as it should be, and Splinter Cell is uneven. Chaos Theory is a great port which looks and runs much smoother than the XBOX version while the first two SC games are somewhat unstable and poor by comparison.
Silent Hill is truly the first and only "remaster disaster" to date. It is, without a doubt, a complete mess of a port. Even the worst ports mentioned above (Splinter Cell 1, for instance) are light years beyond this in that they only really suffer from an unstable framerate while leaving everything else in tact.
Chances are high that DMC will be at least a reasonably solid port. I'd say the games themselves won't hold up that well, however, as they had a lot of poor textures and uneven models. At 60 fps on an SDTV it was easier to hide these flaws, but I think viewing them in HD will more easily reveal those issues. I don't think they stand up as well as some of the other games that were re-released.
I don't think it will ever be topped in terms of sheer awfulness. I think Konami and Hijinks should be jailed for such a crime against humanity.
RPGCrazied
Member
PoP is pretty bad too. Sounds are fucked, lighting is gone. Of course I've only played the first one. I haven't tried the other 2 though.