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Diablo 3 Open Beta starting this weekend
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I have news for you. People here who demand these throwbacks to D2 and whine about hipster scarves on demon hunter, wow-like art, colour and all that stuff, haven't been the core audience of blizzard for a decade now. It's time to accept this and move on.
Fallout-NL
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teh_J0kerer
Member
I keep going back and forth on whether to play softcore or hardcore at retail. I want to be seriously afraid of dying, and have to plan my build to not die.. but hardcore just seems too extreme. Something like a D'Souls like penalty would be enough.. I'm not really into the idea of lag/windows button/earthquake/whatever, resulting in losing 80 hours of a character. Hell, it's even lame if there's some random thing in the game that kills you unless you happen to know what it's going to do.
Am I the only one who feels like this? I feel like the ideal situation would be something in between hard and softcore..
Am I the only one who feels like this? I feel like the ideal situation would be something in between hard and softcore..
jchap
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You don't get it. Dying is the BEST part of hardcore! You always get an epic story out of dying, especially if it happens with your friends around. Then you have the fun of your friends trying to recover your gear without dying and starting anew. You grieve for a bit, but you can always rebuild!
I can still remember exactly how each of my lvl 60+ hardcore characters died.
So I was lvl 59 just about to hit 60 and start my infernorun, hit with a lagspike and a grotesque blew up in my face killing me.
jchap
Member
So what? Diablo character progression is almost all gear and resources and not the time it takes to get to level xx. As long as your gear and gold is recovered, rebuilding is trivial.
teh_J0kerer
Member
AFAIK in diablo 3 there is no way to recover your gear when you die in HC.
Newsflash: you do not get to recover your gear. : )
Son. The fuck do you think hardcore means?
Trickster
Member
To be fair, you don't lose your stash and gold when you die in hardcore so it probably will make leveling back up really easy. Your DPS and survivability are heavily affected by your equipment so if you keep your old gear in the stash then you could probably reach 60 in half the time of your fresh start.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I'm thinking about going harcdcore because of its exclusion from the real money auction house. Just a question though, to you hardcore d2 players: does playing it safe for survival make the game more boring? Its really gotta change up the pace of the game when you know you can't die.
MrCompletely
Member
So is your hardcore stash separate from your regular stash?
yes, every hardcore character have separate stash
ThatStupidLion
Member
the environment didn't bug me as much as the 3D models running around did.
anyone have similar feelings?
feels very torchlight-y
makes me yearn for the gritty pixels of d2
anyone have similar feelings?
feels very torchlight-y
makes me yearn for the gritty pixels of d2
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Yea, the monk running animation looked fine to me but the rest looked pretty floaty and bad. I think it'll look a bit better when you get faster run speed, though.
Hardcore is definitely an experience I'd love to try, but I won't even contemplate tackling it until I've mastered the game inside and out first, done all the classes etc. Will be a great way to add tension and interest back into the game once I think I've seen and done everything.
There's no way I'm playing HC. The first lag spike death would cause me to toss my computer out a window.
Thirty hours is about all the time I allow myself for gaming in a month, unless some big new release is out. I'd cry manly tears and then never play again (like when my D2 account got hacked and my loot got plundered).
Thirty hours is about all the time I allow myself for gaming in a month, unless some big new release is out. I'd cry manly tears and then never play again (like when my D2 account got hacked and my loot got plundered).
I will live in HC beside having mains in Normal mode of course.
My best experience in good ARPG's (so in Diablo 2 and in Diablo 2 only
) always comes from having a fresh start but knowing that I have a "plan" - and this will stay the same in this game as well. It does not matter if I lose the character, the feeling of getting stronger and stronger is what is good in this game mode, not getting to keep it. For me, of course.
My suggestion to this is the following: Imagine that scenario. Embrace it as fully as you are capable of doing it. YOU JUST LOST 30 HOURS OF "PROGRESS".
Can you imagine it? Now, you have already experienced that situation. You can dive in hardcore now, not needing to fear this.
My best experience in good ARPG's (so in Diablo 2 and in Diablo 2 only
) always comes from having a fresh start but knowing that I have a "plan" - and this will stay the same in this game as well. It does not matter if I lose the character, the feeling of getting stronger and stronger is what is good in this game mode, not getting to keep it. For me, of course.My suggestion to this is the following: Imagine that scenario. Embrace it as fully as you are capable of doing it. YOU JUST LOST 30 HOURS OF "PROGRESS".
Can you imagine it? Now, you have already experienced that situation. You can dive in hardcore now, not needing to fear this.
I love hc in Diablo. You just have to build your character with more hitpoints and play more conservatively.
In d2 you can drink 20 health pots in a row so the only way to die was if someone 1 shot kill you.
Now since you can only drink 1 bottle every 1 minute, I would make sure I have 1 health bottle ready before the next group fight.
In d2 you can drink 20 health pots in a row so the only way to die was if someone 1 shot kill you.
Now since you can only drink 1 bottle every 1 minute, I would make sure I have 1 health bottle ready before the next group fight.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Are item drops supposed to be any better in hc mode?
no, it´s the same game. you just can die only once.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
There should be a consolation achievement for dying on Diablo (or whoever the last boss is, no spoilers plz) on Inferno Hardcore.
"We Are Not Buying You A Keyboard And Monitor"
Calavera520
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Does anyone have footage of the extra areas that they opened for the beta over the past few months?
I think there was a point where they opened up zones for 48 hours or something.
I think there was a point where they opened up zones for 48 hours or something.
Monk still takes damage, though, being a melee character. If you played Demon Hunter right, at least during the opening act we got to play, you wouldn't take a single hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFwFXNckDc
I think Monk might end up being the best for HC. All that dodge and healing ability has to count for something!
I did not get to play enough of the Beta but I played enough to know its what I want. Even on my PC with onboard graphics, it ran it ok.
Monk will be the best in HC because of one passive traits :
I think the DH will be good too with a lot of tools like smoke screen, vault, shadow power (-65% damage runed).
He still has that evasion mantra thing right?
Is that a guarranteed evade or just a massive buff to evasion/dexterity? Only reason I think the Demon Hunter would be better is because her evasion skill is a guaranteed dodge.
thetrin
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That's just a buff to evasion. It doesn't make you untouchable.
What is TQ?
Did anyone else play Darkstone? I actually really enjoyed that game. It was a Diablo clone/rip off but I played through it an uncountable number of times with my brothers.
Titan Quest.
Titan Quest.
Melee classes are horrid for hardcore. It doesn't matter how high their evasion is, the fact that they have to expose themselves to do damage will always make them fundamentally easier to kill.
Does anyone know if a successful dodge still stops your character from attacking like it did in Diablo 2?
Does anyone know if a successful dodge still stops your character from attacking like it did in Diablo 2?
-Pyromaniac-
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sorceress and assassins are fun classes with fun spells/traps
Sorceress is a ton of fun and is probably the easiest class to play blindfolded (as in it's difficult to make a sorceress build that doesn't work). Javazons are also very entertaining (my favourite class to play, personally) and allow you to play a melee/ranged hybrid. Bowazons are neat too but are somewhat less viable. Necromancers can be played without pets, Paladins are actually more commonly played as spellcasters than they are melee classes, and Druids are fairly versatile.
If you are playing online, PM me. I play Diablo 2 fairly regularly.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Damn dude, if you're playing online I don't know if I'd start so soon before D3. You need at least a couple months to see everything diablo 2 has to offer. And there would still be more.
Naw, doing one or maybe two playthroughs before DIII hits, mainly for plot reasons. I'll return and mine the game properly later.
Started as a Sorceress and have completed the first quest. What's the good rule-of-thumb stat distribution for her? I've just put some in strength and energy for now, but have no idea what my long-term game plan should be. Fighters in Diablo I were easy: max dexterity then spread points between strength and vitality as required. Not sure about Sorcerers so much. Do the stats behave like they do in D1?
Also, with the three skills trees, should I mostly specialise in just one or is spreading myself out over all three okay?
FieryBalrog
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Generally, dump into vitality, with enough strength for gear you are aiming for. I remember aiming for however much strength it took to wear Tal Rasha's back in the day.
Or, do the same thing, but take points out of vitality and put it into dex until you hit the block cap.
Or, do the same thing, but take points out of vitality and put it into dex until you hit the block cap.
Strength increases your melee damage by a small amount, and then by a big amount at a certain number (depending on the weapon). It is mostly increased as a prerequisite to using items.
Dexterity, like strength, increases your damage with ranged weapons by a small amount, and then by a big amount at a certain number (depending on the weapon). It also increases your defense (which increases the chance that monsters will miss you) as well as your attack rating (which increases the chance that you will hit monsters with normal attacks and certain skills). On top of that, it marginally increases your chance to block -- your chance to block is structured such that if you invest half of your points into dexterity (not including stat bonuses), you will get the chance to block advertised on your shield.
Vitality increases your health and stamina (the sorceress gets 1 health per point in vitality). Put most of your stat points here.
Energy increases your mana. You should try to avoid putting points here if you can.
You should specialize in two elements if you plan on playing hell, one element if you don't. You will find it hard to deal good damage or find appropriate gear if you spread significantly across all three, although there are certain one point wonders (like static field) that work very effectively without significant investment.
Ideally, you have only enough strength and dexterity to use your gear, with the rest of your points into vitality. This is assuming you're playing softcore; on hardcore, it is much easier to make the argument for max block.
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