Coulomb_Barrier
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Numps it is based on the rumours we have had 'pie in the sky' lol.
So again, learn about GPUs, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, so much so it is quite offensive to read.
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[Digital Foundry] Spec Analysis: Sony's surprise PlayStation 5 tech reveal
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Numps it is based on the rumours we have had 'pie in the sky' lol.
So again, learn about GPUs, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about, so much so it is quite offensive to read.
Mista
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Shall I also act surprised of this jump because we’re going to a new gen? Okay, WOW THIS IS GREAT! Real talk now, this is great, I’m glad they’re going for the SSD. Now I’m hoping Xbox does the same since I’ll be getting both eventually
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CuNi
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I suspect that the SSD is going to cache the game ur playing to increase performance. I don't believe in 1 or 2 TB SSDs to be there either.
HeresJohnny
Member
Grain of sand. I doubt a third party small developer knows the price structure this far out. Hell, didn’t Sony change the price the day the PS4 was announced from $449 to $399? Seems I read that somewhere.
Geki-D
Banned
People have been guessing this same info without claiming to be insiders. Horizon 2 is non exclusive? Uh-huh. No mention of PSVR current gen headsets working on PS5, no mention of "no loading" (which more reliable insiders are saying Sony is putting a lot of focus into as a tagline), in fact no mention of the SSD at all?! Get the fuck outta here with this fake shit, son.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Nah, people were not guessing this same stuff. That leaker said there'll be 28 GBs of RAM. Who else is saying that?
Geki-D
Banned
Is the amount of RAM actually correct, though? This leak is all up in the air till we get figures and the stuff that isn't there is telling me this is fake.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So far everything that's been released has been right. We'll know in a few months if the RAM is correct. That's the point. We can't say it's fake as of now.
Handy Fake
Member
Quite frankly I think with the PS3 you were paying for the Blu-Ray player. Was a powerpush by Sony to set a standard in the market.
It worked mind, I suppose.
grfunkulus
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You clearly haven't been paying attention to pricing in the GPU market in the last two years or you'd know everything you're saying is farcical bullshit.
Sure bud, call me when Navi is just another amd disappointment. It's targeting the low-mid end market. No way it has 1080ti performance for $250 but keep on dreaming and pretending you know jack.
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Shin
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Posted 1 month later after RuthenicCookie leak, which in turn was leaked 2 days later after some site had the information he leaked.
So... not sure if he (which I suspect to be an employee of Sony or by extension planted that seed) passed on the information to said site.
Case in point November 2018 is when things started rolling a bit, most things after that could easily be plaintext onto PasteBin.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
No nearly all of what he claimed there about the PS5 turns out to be true. In December, the things he claimed that weren't doing the rounds:
- 28GB NAND Flash storage (SSD)
- 8K upscaling
- Release March 2020 when most people were saying 2019 at the time
- Ray tracing
- 'Much better bandwidth' regarding memory
CyberPanda
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He’s a verified insider with legit sources on Reeee.
ethomaz
Banned
Pretty lame to be fair... nVidia is doing that and improving for generations already and you see loading on PC.
He’s a verified insider with legit sources on Reeee.
AMD’s GPUs do that too but it way behind nVidia.
BTW everybody looks to have a Verified seal in Era.
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Bryank75
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Everyone’s a verified dickhead on era.
He’s a verified insider with legit sources on Reeee.
Kdad
Member
At the time, if you wanted Blu-ray, it was well worth it.
Insane Metal
Member
That's some miraculous GPU Decompression.
He’s a verified insider with legit sources on Reeee.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, lol, That doesn’t explain going from 15 seconds to .8.
Fake
Member
To be fair, get a verified tag on resetera works as same as twitter IMO. Don't mean much. Still if he could provide the same info he gave to Nibel...
He’s a verified insider with legit sources on Reeee.
CyberPanda
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Here's info from Benji himself:
"Nice little tease"
Reads...
"I would take this with a huge grain of salt"
Fake
Member
If I remember right (back the day I was a resetera member), Benji was a hardware sales insider, don't? And sometimes like Zhuge he hit his sales prediction almost 50% or less, BUT in the time I know him he being wrong just about some numbers.Here's info from Benji himself:
edit: BTW, he most of the time say 'grain of salt' about hardware predictions.
edit2: I guess he posted or quoted that famouns tweet about 'God of War' having soft sales.
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ethomaz
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There are some rumors about NextXbox not using APU but instead dedicated CPU/GPU... I’m not sure if it is cost effective but you can probably reach more power.Here's info from Benji himself:
But that is rumor.
The weird thing is that all these rumors just started to pop up after Cerny interview.
Before everybody knows nothing.
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demigod
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Phil not being happy having to sit thru inside xbox while Cerny leaks some ps5 info to the world. Phil used his batphone to tell his paid leakers/insiders to damage control.
Chairman Tickles
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If Microsoft's Anaconda is beefier, then this tactic of flaunting specs is going to hurt Sony.
CyberPanda
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https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-navi-specs-release-date-price-and-everything-we-know/
-Navi 10 won't have any specialized hardware cores for ray tracing
-Navi 20 will be where AMD adds ray tracing hardware, available in 2020.
-PS5 gpu is likely a variant of Navi 20
-Navi 10 won't have any specialized hardware cores for ray tracing
-Navi 20 will be where AMD adds ray tracing hardware, available in 2020.
-PS5 gpu is likely a variant of Navi 20
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Here's info from Benji himself:
I wouldn't take that guy seriously, honestly he's such a drama queen and attention whore (Benji). He seems emotionally unstable.
ethomaz
Banned
He is fine most of times... said that he likes to get attention and become angry when his “predictions” didn’t become true.
He didn’t accept well when real numbers shows he was wrong.
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Lol yes I know, an NPD thread couple months back or NPD predictions thread on there I can't remember, he had a sort of attention seeking meltdown where he kept posting 'why are people taking what I said out of context' when people really weren't. And he kept posting, 'I'm not going to post anything anymore' trying to turn the thread about him.
Hilariously, even the NPD guy Matt Piscella told him to calm down and let's have less of the drama. Anyway I dunno if he's a Sony/Nintendo/MS fanboy or what agenda he has.
Shin
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I don't know the guy but actual insiders don't tent to seek attention and often are lowkey, which he does.
His history has so far been correct and possibly the only person's word I'd trust over there among insiders.
I figured that it's an AMD thing just like RT and neither Sony/MS should be credited for those, but doesn't matter in the end.
As for decompression via the GPU makes sense and for the longest of time we've known GPU being able to crunch harder than a CPU.
That's not to take anything away because in the end it will still be very helpful to the overall experience, how it's done isn't relevant IMO.
TLZ
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Evilms
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Do you remember ?
Xbox Durango more powerful than Orbis :3
https://playerone.tv/news/v/1979/la_xbox_720_plus_puissante_que_la_ps4.html
http://www.xboxygen.com/Xbox-720/La-Xbox-720-serait-plus-puissante-et-fiable-que-la-PS4
Panajev2001a
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What does "2tb HDD some sort of nand flash" mean?
Imagine say a 512 GB or so very very fast SSD cache embedded in PS5’s motherboard and connected to its PCI-E 4.0 bus acting as cache for the HDD... as games are installed from PSN/Blu-Ray they get preloaded into the cache. The trick for expandability is to have the interface between flash cache and the HDD to be super fast and allow large SSD’s to be swapped in at a later date.
Handy Fake
Member
I'd suspect that both companies will have a fair idea of what the other is doing, to be fair.
Fake
Member
To be true happens with every other insider before resetera like Zhuge, Mat, etc...
What I hate about is they like make fun about other people when they hit the prediction, but when they're wrong act like 'stop make fun about me'.
Thats why I hate that serebii guy in particular. Make fun of people, but hate when people make fun of him.
Anw, from the time I know Benji he never get any 'leak' info. Who knows...
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CJY
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I'm surprised everybody is throwing around the word "specs" as what Mark Cerny spoke about in his interview wasn't really specs. It was more just a loose list of features, (perhaps a product direction, or philosophy) without any true details. The explicit details are what "specs" are. We don't know the specs yet.
Chairman Tickles
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I'll save you the speculating; spoilers ahead; The specs will be a mid-range Ryzen build with a 1070-class mid-range gpu + marketing bells and whistles intending to push current gen graphics with 1440p+ @ 60fps medium-high mixed settings, and next gen graphics @ 30fps medium-high mixed settings.
It is very easy to deduce from the typical cost of off the shelf components in 2019- relative to the typical $600 launch window price; if indeed this thing is coming next year. Boring I know, but such is reality vs marketing hype.
BASICALLY, you will get a slightly graphically souped up xbox one X paired with a semi-decent cpu relative to desktop cpu's of the current pc generation-which would unleash some cool new capabilites, considering the xbox one x is one of the most unbalanced and crippled (cpu limited) machines ever made. IN FACT, the RTX 480 equivalent in the xboner X is criminally crippled by a cpu that would have been slugish back in 2009. What a waste. It makes me sick.
It is very easy to deduce from the typical cost of off the shelf components in 2019- relative to the typical $600 launch window price; if indeed this thing is coming next year. Boring I know, but such is reality vs marketing hype.
BASICALLY, you will get a slightly graphically souped up xbox one X paired with a semi-decent cpu relative to desktop cpu's of the current pc generation-which would unleash some cool new capabilites, considering the xbox one x is one of the most unbalanced and crippled (cpu limited) machines ever made. IN FACT, the RTX 480 equivalent in the xboner X is criminally crippled by a cpu that would have been slugish back in 2009. What a waste. It makes me sick.
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TLZ
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These types all belong in the bin.
Shmunter
Member
These consoles need to be ready to compete with the immediacy of cloud gaming. Installing will still be slow. But once you have the game, it will load quick.
Dabaus
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Cerny coming out stating that the PS5 will have a disc drive is a very interesting talking point. Why did he bother to bring up something which would seem so obvious as a talking point? Did sony hear Microsoft is considering not having a disc drive? Is sony telegraphing to gamestop, best buy, target, etc. that they arent going all in on digital like Microsoft is and bartering for preferential treatment from them? Maybe since Microsoft is aiming for more power they have to cut costs in other areas and a disc drive is something they cut out? Small point he made but has alot of implications.
Insane Metal
Member
Lol sure. Both using AMD hardware and getting CPU & GPU from the same source but they will have very different architectures. Come on now.Here's info from Benji himself:
nowhat
Member
Well, I mean, the other may feature a Zen 2-based CPU and a Navi-based GPU. While the other could have a Navi-based GPU in combination with a Zen 2-based CPU.
...but more seriously, there may be some proprietary additions in both (along the lines of the index buffer in Pro). Whether that will be the case and how much it will affect anything remains to be seen.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Slightly graphically souped up Xbox One? It will be a generational leap over that unbalanced bit of kit. Navi APUs alone, totally new gens of both graphics and CPU on 7nm to boot, is going to be a giant leap over the Polaris + Jaguar APU inside the XB1X. Then other generational features like instant loading, 3D audio, ray tracing etc. Don't be too pessimistic.
Remember, the XB1X is only 6TFLOPs, the PS5 is gonna be 14TFLOPs minimum.