Apophis2036
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Is this the first UE3 game on next gen ?. Maybe a case of a rush job on getting the engine to run on the new consoles since it was built around totally different console architectures.
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Digital Foundry: Thief for Xbox One edges out the PS4 version
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iceatcs
Junior Member
They have better road layers in the X1 version, the AI must be dumb for the road layers in the PS4 version
But it is really bad, like literally dangerous for my eyes.
I can't beleive Xbox can't do parallax mapping, even RPG maker engine have one.
TUROK
Member
These threads always play out this way. They didn't even favor the game, they just said that the One version slightly edges out the PS4 version. But yes, you're going to see a lot of "biased" accusations thrown out in any DF thread that says anything nice about the One, especially if they overlook something.
No, Outlast is UE3.
i think u didnt seen the screenshots
Omotesando
Member
Congratulations to Xbone beating the PS4 for the first time, according to DF. The war has become stale and boring, since it basically was not a war, but a beat down.
It's ironic though that the Xbone version has won with the expected inferior performance and the absence of true HD resolution. But this time it's a virtue! The tradeoff has ''edged'' the Xbone version over the PS4.
A win is a win. The streak has been broken. Chalk one up for Xbone for having better filtering, the war is heating up. DF, we eagerly await your next analysis.
It's ironic though that the Xbone version has won with the expected inferior performance and the absence of true HD resolution. But this time it's a virtue! The tradeoff has ''edged'' the Xbone version over the PS4.
A win is a win. The streak has been broken. Chalk one up for Xbone for having better filtering, the war is heating up. DF, we eagerly await your next analysis.
travisbickle
Member
Looks like digital foundry realised the polygon-method of getting more clicks.
Subjectively choose which effects you think provide a better experience to declare a winner!
If they both have issues call it a draw.
Subjectively choose which effects you think provide a better experience to declare a winner!
If they both have issues call it a draw.
Unknown One
Member
Wow they managed to make the PS4 the lesser version...
so just because this dev couldnt implement it to the game on xbox it means that no dev can ? i guess the ps4 will never get texture filtering again lol
It's the second, Strider won, and certainly should have.
iceatcs
Junior Member
TheApatheticOne
Member
Good post. It gets old. I own both, enjoy both, and have bought all my multiplats so far on PS4 (even Thief). It's nuts how many threads there are that have people trying to shoehorn how good the PS4 is over the XB1 in threads where it's not even the topic.
Titanfall threads are the worst in GAF's anti-XB1 campaign.
Pop
Member
I know you're joking but this is literally a streaming problem and DF not capturing images correctly.
JonathanPower
Member
I don't know about that. If the game is not GPU limited but just badly optimized, using a lower resolution won't help much.
GoofsterStud
Member
Agreed. This doesn't seem like a win, at best it's a draw. Strider is a win without a doubt.
HORRORSHØW
Member
define "almost."
Omotesando
Member
Missed that one. Without Neogaf, there are no clicks for DF from me.
The worst part about their click-bait post is that most of the time in Thief you are playing in really confined areas that aren't even big enough for Texture Filtering like AF to need to kick in. Sometimes it's noticeable running down a street in town, but that's the only time it really is.
I'll take a more solid framerate, higher resolution, and POM, and no screen tearing over that in this situation any day.
Yeah true, but I have seen and played many games at 1080p,900p and 720p.
I can barley tell the difference between 900p and 1080p on my tv and whatever difference there is, is trivial and does not effect my joy of the game.
GoofsterStud
Member
thunder_snail
Member
Does Thief on Xbone require full installation before playing? I'd assume if that's the case, since PS4 installs while you play, the texture streaming issue should be fixed by the time the game is fully installed.
Also surprised DF didn't manage to notice lack of parallax mapping on Xbone. It's not a subtle effect.
Also surprised DF didn't manage to notice lack of parallax mapping on Xbone. It's not a subtle effect.
electroshockwave
Member
Wasn't that about framerate, which actually appears to better on PS4?
HORRORSHØW
Member
nah. that moron went on about how much more worse the PS4 version ran in terms of fps.
The image that were posted here without context are about the Unreal Engine streaming in issue that seems to only be present in cutscenes on the PS4.
That's not how the game looks when you play it. That would be incredible.
GoofsterStud
Member
This is probably what is happening. The Xbox One version has to completely install, meanwhile the PS4 version is being played as soon as possible to start the comparison.
iceatcs
Junior Member
yeh it really does
cmon
That is texture streaming error, you should wait few microsecs and PS4 will have same texture as PC and Xbox.
Omotesando
Member
This shitty blurry texture streaming reminds me off Dead Rising 3. It's shit, but I don't think it bothers me more than those head ache inducing bird cage jaggies by virtue of 900p.
lol
My copy doesn't look that bad, I don't know what's going on with DF's machine.
Strider definitely has AF issues tho, hard not to notice it.
Pop
Member
Wouldn't that be something.
Alcoholikaust
Member
yup. vindication redacted
plus this stills are from when the game streams in. picking the single frame when the texture hasn't loaded isnt very fair. I need high res gifs
stat!
yeh it really does
cmon
Okay, can we agree that streaming issues are not as bad as if the textures actually looked like that? And can we say DF are a bit thick for using still images to show asset streaming issues?
Knack is UE4 which isn't dissimilar and more demanding if anything
What? Do you realize that gaf isn't a single entity? And what campaign are you talking about - is legitimate criticism not allowed anymore?
It's just as "ugly" as the PC version. It's not the best looking game in the world, but some of the stuff here has been really exaggerated. The texture pop-in is a non-issue that only happens on level loads for 2-3 seconds (and doesn't happen at all if you have a faster HDD in it). The lack of AF sucks in areas that are more open, but for most of the game you're playing in really confined/small spaces where AF doesn't even really matter and where the Parallax Occlusion Mapping sticks out more as a Plus.
Chobel
Member
yeh it really does
cmon
PS4 version doesn't look like that and that's not trillinear filtering. it's just some bug in texture streaming.
ProfessorMoran
Member
That would be pretty shitty of DF to use shots like that.
It has to partially install to about 20% before you can play
i can agree that using still image could make ppl take it in a bad way
but they didnt give the edge just for that reason
"Visually, the PS4 should be the front-runner given its 1080p presentation, but through the virtues of effective anti-aliasing, the 900p frame-buffer used on Xbox One holds its own in practice. However, the PS4's weaker texture filtering does factor into the comparison more visibly, with assets appearing blurrier than they should at a distance, and asset pop-in proving slightly more evident."
HORRORSHØW
Member
who has the ps4 version? can you guys capture some images from the same screens as the ones that are being used for comparison's sake?
travisbickle
Member
Wasn't there a crazy DF comparison last gen with an older tomb Raider game that was to do with texture streaming. I'm sure a huge debate raged, there were images in the back of a boat?
It's not what?