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Digital Foundry: Thief for Xbox One edges out the PS4 version
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electroshockwave
Member
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
I would say yes. Minimum framerate isn't very representative of the general stability, and AF easily outweights the benefits of 1080p.
Terbinator
Member
dat PS4
Gears 1, is that you?
They don't just drop to "20 fps", but 200ms frame times. That is FIVE fps. A drop to 50ms frame times is trivial in comparison. Those drops are what make some 30 fps games worse than others, not small differences in average fps.
Appalling performance on both. Clearly quite rushed.
Appalling performance on both. Clearly quite rushed.
Sweet Ivy
Member
Thanks for the heads up, I was almost shocked
!No way DF could be incompetent enough to do this accidentally.
You can't be serious.
Thanks for the heads up, I was almost shocked
Words are nice, but screens would be better.
I see , the misconception came from eurogamer announcing it , saying it was UE4.
Facism
Member
Thanks for the heads up, I was almost shocked
Needs to be in the op
BruiserBear
Banned
My thoughts exactly.
And it's embarrassing when a dev ships a PS4 game with any graphical feature missing on the PS4 version that is present on the XB1.
"Performance on PS4 and Xbox One counts as a bigger concern, and neither deserves any sort of recommendation here."
"All in all, it's hard not to be disappointed on a technical level with Thief."
i think they been classy
TheApatheticOne
Member
Obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but if you spent time in any Titanfall thread, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Criticism is fine, played the beta and I have my own, but what runs rampant in those threads isn't criticism.
So blur all over the picture is better than some blur in parts of the image?
I didn't think it was necessary but I guess posting context-less images when people have no clue what AF means is that some posters are assuming Unreal Engine texture load-in issues are "AF" and the game looks like that.
you did right to post this ...
but now tell ..isnt jsut this enough or evident enough for df to declare xb1 superior? what u think
for me is..is just ugly!
SomedayTheFire
Member
That's two games now with texture filtering issues on the PS4? That's a bit strange.
This is pretty disgusting.I didn't think it was necessary but I guess posting context-less images when people have no clue what AF means is that some posters are assuming Unreal Engine texture load-in issues are "AF" and the game looks like that.
I don't think people can blame UE3.
Outlast looks fantastic on PS4.
Yeah it does, it's a really lovely looking game generally.
ScaryMovies
Member
Well suggest the 900p 20fps drops version over minimun 25fps at 1080p for the AF it's justy crazy. They have just stay quiet.
GoofsterStud
Member
I didn't think it was necessary but I guess posting context-less images when people have no clue what AF means is that some posters are assuming Unreal Engine texture load-in issues are "AF" and the game looks like that.
Something tells me the PS4 version wasn't 100% completely installed prior to that comparison. That's a huge difference.
Can someone with a 100% finished version post the same scene for us? Hopefully this fixes it or gets a fix soon. I have no desire to buy this game, but this is jarring as hell. I wouldn't recommend either version at this rate.
Not sure if your first question is serious, but has there ever been a documented instance of a publisher deliberately gimping a port because of platform politics?
RedAssedApe
Banned
Assuming you are talking about the Crave Online article...Not really. He was saying that the frame rate on the xbone was better than ps4. DF says otherwise. He never mentioned anything about image quality which probably means he didn't even notice. Which makes sense seeing as how his comments on frame rate are so off-based.
It's exactly 2 seconds to resolve. Why the PS4 displays this behavior in the cutscenes and the Xbone doesn't is very curious. Because the Xbone version in gameplay has very noticeable Unreal Engine texture load-in. (Source: Giant Bomb QL)
Oh interesting point!
Isn't it that you can start playing multiplatform titles earlier on PS4 compared to the Xbone when measuring real world time?
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Strider and now this. Is the switch for AF on PS4 buried somewhere deep in the architecture or something?
funkystudent
Member
I am just surprised how much of a early UE3 game thief looks even on next gen.
Its like its using default UE3 lighting or something. Reminds me of Mass Effect 1 and Gears 1 and Batman AA
Its like its using default UE3 lighting or something. Reminds me of Mass Effect 1 and Gears 1 and Batman AA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLVDu9S_7UU @2:43
The same building, not the same scene though. It's still there.
Resolution can only do so much. Development hell probably didn't help.
electroshockwave
Member
Yeah, it would be great if someone used the share feature to show the same scene.
It's just a coincidence. That's all.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
Both versions have FXAA, they're both blurry all over.
Are you talking about scaling? If you use non-1600x900 monitor, just disable scaling.
Maybe you should read what he actually said before you post.
ScaryMovies
Member
Textures taking a few seconds to load during cutscenes, affects the graphical quality of gameplay how exactly?
I think a lot of people are getting hung up on the 20fps vs 25fps thing here.
They say in the article that the PS4 *technically* runs a more stable framerate, but stuttering issues mean you're not likely to be able to experience the benefits of. It will still feel like a choppy mess on either platform.
Its not really an advantage.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
So it takes two seconds for textures to load in on PS4, and it doesn't take two seconds on XBO.
PS4 is 1080p/25fps. XBO is 900p/20fps.
Decisions, Decisions?
PS4 is 1080p/25fps. XBO is 900p/20fps.
Decisions, Decisions?
Balance. This is the key word.
I didn't think it was necessary but I guess posting context-less images when people have no clue what AF means is that some posters are assuming Unreal Engine texture load-in issues are "AF" and the game looks like that.
Well that's what I get for not watching the videos. Shame on me.
SniperHunter
Banned
Haha wow...
I'm playing it now, made sure it was fully installed before i started too, and while i've noticed the stutter, i can't say i've seen any instance of texture pop in. And i usually pick up on it in other games. Could just be the murky atmosphere is hiding it, but i don't even notice the AF either.
So the PS4 has a better framerate afterall, then what about that article?
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/a...te-is-proof-that-1080p-isnt-always-the-answer
regularly dipping to 15-20 and even to single digits. I like how he claimed this with no evidence whatsoever. Sounds like he's trying to run a bit of damage control with the edits.
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/a...te-is-proof-that-1080p-isnt-always-the-answer
regularly dipping to 15-20 and even to single digits. I like how he claimed this with no evidence whatsoever. Sounds like he's trying to run a bit of damage control with the edits.
iceatcs
Junior Member
It could be because of different section on HDD - like near end edge is read slower than middle of disc. Or Xbox One is installed whereas PS4 don't etc...
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Yeah, he was bullshitting down to the teeth, I think that was the conclusion everyone came to.
What the article said it's arguable. Most of the gamse on ps360 run 25-30 fps. Not sure why ps4 should be unplayable at this fps. Moreover dips at 20fps are very , very, more noticeable.Or maybe ps4 dips belos 25 fps & they have lied.