Serious Sam
Member
As others have said: it's not ideal, but I don't think it's hyperbole-inducingly worse than the others.
I made screenshot from 1080p video. Xbox version looks bad.
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Dishonored 2 |OT| The Edge of the World
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I made screenshot from 1080p video. Xbox version looks bad.
Karak
Member
Yep. But its actually bad, worse.
i'm on mission 2 and playing on OG PS4. thus far the game hasn't been technically rough in any way. the transitions between cutscenes and game play have been seamless, after you die the game reloads reasonably fast, nothing jittery or a lot of popup, no audio problems and the framerate seems good. if i had to criticize i was say the faces aren't the best looking, but the environments are so chock full of details. you can tell a lot of love went into creating the place, the lore, so many opportunities to learn more about the world. i wish i could see through walls because i am always hiding and get spotted because i can't see what's around a wall
EDIT: I missed the part that holding triangle and left stick lets you lean out undetected.
EDIT: I missed the part that holding triangle and left stick lets you lean out undetected.
Karak
Member
Its pretty bad. It failed almost all the chase and vision tests for AI and its dodges regardless of aim direction on the players base meaning they will dodge INTO shots if you aimt to their side which I guess is good if you only have one eye and aim to the right all the time lol. Some videos already showing that.. Better than the first but the first was terrible. Can be lost in seconds here.
Easily patchable and still playable
This is what it looks like on the Pro. It's downsampled from 4k. Runs at a reliable 30.
Any idea what method it's using to get to 4k?
Statue of Limitation
Member
Is there something that replaces the heart?
wild wild rice
Member
I think I've heard enough to trust the game isn't a technical disaster. Gonna open it and fire it up.
The voice acting was pretty bad in the first one as well. Especially Pierro
OrbitalBeard
Member
Bethesda moved the release date up one day. So yeah, it's out now.
Nice. Pick this up on the way home then.
That's atrocious.
Rexatality
Member
They don't. And they don't count as kills either
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Okay... Thank you very much.
I just watched your review and it was extremely helpful and I really appreciate your constant flurry of reviews. You are the fucking bomb. I have benefited so much I'm strongly considering the patreon bro.
Dishonored is one of my favorite games despite it's issues. I think waiting for a patch (even waiting several months), is enough to preserve the prestige of the first game to me. The slide spamming thing is unacceptable. "You almost have to want to die" is a perfect analysis of the effect you demonstrated. The sound issues is one of the worst things you could have said. This is a stealth game and sound is highly necessary for compelling success. It's imperative for immersing you in your actions in these kinds of games. The last game was pretty good in this regard. I'm deeply saddened. This was my most anticipated game.
Fortunately your review on COD IW helped me and I love the campaign/zombies and the remaster of course.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Fantastic review from our brother Karak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjNEL7SGKmA
Definitely waiting on a patch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjNEL7SGKmA
Definitely waiting on a patch.
double posted to draw more deserved attention to the review and not my previous post
SpideySenses
Member
I wonder if Xbox One is dynamic resolution, it's generally a softer image than PS4 but there are points than it's especially bad when the engine is being taxed.
Yep...some people are really exxagerating the differences...oh well,to each his own I guess.
I spent so much time on the second level, I'm loving it so far. There are so many small stories within one location, and having Emily (great VA) occasionally comment on the situation was a great idea.
If the level design remains as good and interesting throughout I'll be more than happy.
If the level design remains as good and interesting throughout I'll be more than happy.
Kevin Shields
Member
Dang, did you beat this with an early copy or in one day?
Karak
Member
Sure man. Make no mistake great gameplay stuck in this thing but the bugs are pretty noticeable and I just don't feel comfortable telling folks to get it.
Did have 2 additional crashes since then. Both on pro.
It does. Thats one great thing about it.
Both technically. For many of us it was available yesterday morning the delivered, VPN, or retail source. Prior to that from what I hear.
So I just heard the new VA, and... wow, I think I will take that back lol.
His new voice bugs the heck out of me. Almost sounds like he is a heavy smoker now or something.
GodfatherX
Member
So between the consoles, PS4 is the slightly better one? I watched a video but visuals looked about the same not sure about performance
Fahzgoolin
Banned
why the heck did corvo let those armed soldiers with robots waltz in? why did they think throwing you into a room with windows and just posting 1 guard was sufficient?
seems freaking stupid
seems freaking stupid
Karak
Member
yes.
LOL trust me. THat's not the last time your going to say "WTF"
Vision and chase AI issues? I'm having problems with the AI spotting me hidden behind corners and rushing me down when I get spotted all the time on hard. What exactly do you mean?
Karak
Member
They don't see you at all in various sections(shown today in tons of gameplay video), they can walk right passed you if your even 1 inch above them(which the dev states verticality matters) they chase either to their death(which I guess is cool) or lose all ability to understand what you did if your more than 2 vertical levels above them. On hard I was chased down 2 times in hundreds of engagements. Otherwise I lost them. They also get confused when you use the Emilys movement power and many times they just ran around lose.
But if you like it thats awesome. for sure and I am sure some of it has to do with how folks play.
Edit: Sorry make that 3-4 times chased truly down.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Karak
Member
Nah its ok. the story is sort of out there. And honestly I liked that. Well aside from what you and I just discussed in spoilers
Aztechnology
Member
Oh nice I'll go watch your review now. I figured the embargo didn't drop until tomorrow.
Karak
Member
Ya not sure how they went about it and why its different than the original
CrichtonKicks
Member
Haven't watched your review yet but nothing hear sounds particularly bad. That's all pretty much how I want the AI to react.
The verticality thing, though, must be inconsistent. Even on the very first level I've been spotted when I've been perched above an enemy unless they were directly below me (ie out of line of sight).
Karak
Member
9+ easy.
lol
Better but not great for AI. Level design easily better.
I thought he did a good job. But its hard to move on in VA rolls for sure. I can barely remember the original voice actor for that.
Karak
Member
If you are moving supposedly that is tied into the messed up audio layering which not only make them louder to you but can make you louder to them. And it was posted somewhere that they were informed
dealer-
Member
I'm playing on hard and AI is just about right, feels realistic and a good challenge for a full stealth and no casualties playthrough.
Performance wise it has been decent on PS4 outside of screen tearing and haven't run into any major drops yet.
AHA-Lambda
Member
well i just finished chapter 5 and have spent 5 hours with the game according to Steam.
This is on medium difficulty, no killing, and with getting a few of the collectibles along the way, but not making that a priority.
I'm only a couple hours in, but what happened to the writing in this series?
Very minor spoilers from the very first scene.
The writing wasn't amazing in the first game, but it's so heavy handed and expository in this one. Like, the throne room scene at the start where the characters say a bunch of really clunky expository dialogue, stuff that both of them already know, no one would ever talk like that.
I'm finding the bad/clunky dialogue keeps taking me out of the game, which never happened in the first game or with Knife Of Dunwall or Brigmore Witches.
The first game seemed to have at least some subtlety, I mean they never even outright tell you Corvo is Emily's father. A lot of the stuff you are left to infer, and I loved that approach.
So far in Dishonored II it isn't like that at all. I get that they have to make sure that people who didn't play the first game understand what's happening, but it's not even so much the exposition as how it's delivered.
Like, in that opening scene Emily even implies she thinks her father might actually be the Crown Killer, and he's just like "Naw, it is our enemies trying to undermine us." Like, if my daughter had just indicated she thought I might have murdered a bunch of people my reaction would be more along the lines of "Do you really think I would do something like that?!" and you could have Emily reply "Well.. you have done questionable things in the past.." which at least somewhat organically alludes to the first game.
And it's pretty much the same writers from the first game, too, except Harvey Smith isn't credited this time and they have one additional writer. I don't get it.
Gameplay-wise I'm loving it so far. Feels great, looks great. I just hope that this bad expository dialogue drops off now that I'm out of the first area of the game.
Very minor spoilers from the very first scene.
The writing wasn't amazing in the first game, but it's so heavy handed and expository in this one. Like, the throne room scene at the start where the characters say a bunch of really clunky expository dialogue, stuff that both of them already know, no one would ever talk like that.
I'm finding the bad/clunky dialogue keeps taking me out of the game, which never happened in the first game or with Knife Of Dunwall or Brigmore Witches.
The first game seemed to have at least some subtlety, I mean they never even outright tell you Corvo is Emily's father. A lot of the stuff you are left to infer, and I loved that approach.
So far in Dishonored II it isn't like that at all. I get that they have to make sure that people who didn't play the first game understand what's happening, but it's not even so much the exposition as how it's delivered.
Like, in that opening scene Emily even implies she thinks her father might actually be the Crown Killer, and he's just like "Naw, it is our enemies trying to undermine us." Like, if my daughter had just indicated she thought I might have murdered a bunch of people my reaction would be more along the lines of "Do you really think I would do something like that?!" and you could have Emily reply "Well.. you have done questionable things in the past.." which at least somewhat organically alludes to the first game.
And it's pretty much the same writers from the first game, too, except Harvey Smith isn't credited this time and they have one additional writer. I don't get it.
Gameplay-wise I'm loving it so far. Feels great, looks great. I just hope that this bad expository dialogue drops off now that I'm out of the first area of the game.
DarknessTear
Banned
Does this game support HDR? Tried it on my Pro and it's not showing up.
Karak
Member
Makes sense. Hope they can patch that soon.
Karak
Member
me as well. Its an odd bug and in a stealth game...pretty damned odd to miss.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Wonder how long this download is gonna take...
