Day 2 claim commentary. I apologize in advance for this post. It's long.
(if you are that person: Don't claim until it's necessary)
RF against any claims.
Too bad she got iced in the middle of the night, but if there are multiple killing roles, I'm sure there's a doctor around somewhere.
Septimus with more personal speculation. Again could be subtle mafia move. Or just random talking.
Yea, he's done nothing other than the pretending to be someone else and forcing them to name claim part for no reason at all. Real good stuff here.
Scum Darryl implies name claiming is bad.
@Character names: I am not sure how much stock we should put in them. We have already seen that some of them arent exactly among the famous princesses (or even princesses at all in Alice's case). We could try a "name your princess" gambit to look for dupes, but frankly its a terrible plan as Im sure scum either have the names of unused princesses or just have to name any main Disney female character. Could be an interesting hail mary / desperation move though. (We should absolutely not do this).
AB posts the mass claim concept and is against it.
Hindsight aside, I am not a fan of our one-shot vig using his ability on N1, especially with the lack of info we had.
L_P is apparently digging for details on an existing claim....
....and gets some response.....
I doubt you were about to, but just to be sure please don't say anything more on the matter of how many shots you have.
....and Ferret steps in to crush the conversation.
Also can we not do the last minute role claim again? Trust me they don't work out (I once tried to save a townie with 5 minutes left)
Scum CM doesn't want role claims....
Terrabyte20xx and Septimus Prime. Lovers with a x-shot kill? Sounds too good to be true.
.....but does want to know whether vigilante is still a threat to mafia.
I'm not breadcrumbing dear, I just love Ariel. If I was hinting at my princess role it would look/sound a lot different because it's another princess.
Euphemism denies princess name of Ariel.
I'm just going to come out and say it. I think I was the target last night.
I'm Ariel. At night, I go return to the sea and can't be killed. I don't really care if scum knows this at this point.
Exodus now claims Ariel as role name for no apparent reason.
I wonder if anyone else is going to role claim as Ariel - seems obvious that she would be in this game. If nobody does we can only assume that TheExodu5 is telling the truth and that he is in fact Town.
chair implies that any other Ariel better speak up.
I hope a doctor is smarter than that.
Claiming BP is pretty safe. Scum will avoid you, cop won't check you, and vig won't shoot you. Considering how it came out of nowhere I'm inclined to believe it.
Also the lack of an additional kill could be because of a role-block.
L_P speculation on night action. Asking about BP, doctors, and roleblockers. During a day when mafia has no idea why they couldn't kill a princess. Very suspicious behavior.
Just saw Seath's new claim ... what?? Why did you make all those hinting posts if you don't have a power role? (note, this is not a request for you to reveal your power if any)
StackpoleH against explaining power roles.
I think some of the reasoning in this thread has become a bit...strained at this point. Outing your roles out of boredom doesn't help us in the slightest. I respect that everyone has their own perspective, but we've just narrowed down the list of of townies with PR roles for scum to target.
Trigger against sharing roles.
Those roleclaims are also rather poor, speaking as a veteran of Archer. Having someone who is bulletproof at night gives scum even worse odds at outnumbering town.
That is, if said person doesnt just tell everyone.
Enker against role claims if keeping the knowledge secret is better for town.
I will not role claim, because the people that have done so thus far have not done so in a Town-friendly way. Needless to say though, you can see why Id want to hide a little bit. Lionesses are pretty good at that.
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Enker against role claim but ok with name claim. Somewhat comes out with role information to report on night activity he found suspicious.
Interesting, though I still dislike the mass claiming at least were going somewhere.
Fireblend against claims.
Mass claiming to speed the game up only benefits scum.
LP against claims.
Also are you planning to role claim? It seems to be all the rage with the younger princesses.
Scum makes a joke but would be quite happy to see a role claim in response.
Okay this time we FOR SURE have a THUNDERDOME!!!
The Wendy debacle starts with two active role claims for the same person....
I would also like to hear from Seath. Darryl is claiming a one-sided relationship with Tinker Bell. AB is not. If there's anything that could help give credibility to one of their claims that would be helpful.
.....Trigger wants details on role info....
Why would Darryl claim? Chance of counter claim as we've seen. Protect Seath? .
I'm asking for names only btw
....scum Darryl now asking for names in reverse of earlier attitude....
Weemad is right though no one else should claim, not even names.
....weemadarthur and ferret say no.....
I said names only on purpose. All this feigned concern is really scummy. I'm not asking for everyone to spill their roles. I'm asking for a town member to save a town member by backing me up. WTF is your agenda here? You obviously just want a lynch at this point
....Mafia is unhappy with being told no....
I'm Anastasia, I'm a princess but not Disney. I thought it was a cruel joke but having just seen 2 "Wendy"s it looks Iike I got a bargain.
.....mafia makes a claim to support Darryl because town won't cooperate.....
The part about the neutral lyncher role is that it spiritually conflicts with my role.
I saw my role and thought it was to keep Tinker Bell safe. Probably because something bad would happen if we killed Tinker Bell. That's why I was trying to see if Seath had something that would imply he would have a player looking out for him. Mabe he's a daytime lynch bomb. Don't reveal that, Seath. I was just hoping you'd back me up or something at the time.
I guess it makes sense when I talk about it more. I'm supposed to protect TB. But there's someone out to get me? So if I ever used the function of my role to protect someone from a lynch, I'd have a player alerted out to get me? It just wasn't how I initially saw the utility behind my role.
....scum tries to get a bodyguard to talk.....
The fact he actually was able to do so makes me wonder if he knows more than he's letting on.
So basically you lied about your PR. This whole thing stinks like a setup.
....scum wants AB to role claim, tries insulting him....
The two aren't related in my mind. I'm willing to believe that two are lovers. Town aligned? One-shot vigilantes? Or multiple shots? That's where my doubt comes in.
....Trigger wants more role details....
. Because I've claimed scummily claimed a PR and crafted a subtitle. So you are only keeping info from town in this scenario.
I think this is an under the table attempt to build a rapport. You're selfishly suppressing info that could help us figure this out.
....scum keeps pressure for town roles to openly share information....
This has been bugging me a lot lately...what is this night action that you usually do? You don't need to give a title but at least describe what you do at night?
......Gryvan comes right out and asks....
I'm Snow White. I send the Huntsman to investigate another player and get their role name. It was all lies. I investigated Seath because I thought he was scum.
I didn't think I was going to get protected by a doctor and I didn't think I'd last past day 2 or 3 otherwise. I didn't think Wendy was in the game. I thought I'd put myself out there with a useless role and saying I knew Seath was town was just some breadcrumbing incase I flipped since he was being seen as scummy.
....Now votes are swinging to CM, which wasn't expected as a response to his role claim. Mafia reverses course and busses Darryl to protect CM, although it is not effective.
You realize that outing your role has made it pretty much not valuable to town?
Terrible in many ways...
Seath against claiming if secrecy is more helpful to town.
