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Donald Trump (through Judge Jeanine): "Paul Ryan needs to step down"
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Yeah that's what I don't like about the "it was about wire tapping" theory. Trump sees advertisements like that all the time and doesn't feel the need to tell people to watch Fox News. Nor was that particular thing worth tweeting about if he had no idea what it was about. Oh she is going to say something about wire tappings! What could it be about?
Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Yes trump, continue attacking them get to get them onboard with the rest of your agenda. That's going to work great. Especially since this is your loss.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
This is delicious.
Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
awesome, let all these dummies fight each other
Ahahaha...
It would be funny (er... funnier), if this kind of behavior wasn't just one step away from some kind of international crisis.
Imagine the first major country to blame Trump on a public platform for some kind of mistake we make abroad. Imagine him trying to respond to that.
It would be funny (er... funnier), if this kind of behavior wasn't just one step away from some kind of international crisis.
Imagine the first major country to blame Trump on a public platform for some kind of mistake we make abroad. Imagine him trying to respond to that.
BoogieWoogie
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Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
What's amazing is that I thought it would take at least a year for this to happen. Battling the GOP is under 100 days is quite the accomplishment.
Imperfected
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Trump's speedrunning the Presidency. He's shooting for gold splits all the way up to impeachment.
SirClinksAlot
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Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Ahahaha what a fucking moron.
Darryl M R
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7D underwater basket weaving
Republicans are just gonna fight each other for the next 3 years, aren't they?Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Evil's Bane
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I....really didn't expect him to start throwing fellow republicans under the bus this soon. Goddamn.
sooperkool
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Yep, lame duck president and congressional infighting lead to the biggest waste of congressional majority in history and if it works out that way I'll love it.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
If he keeps being this hostile against GOP members then maybe impeachment is not as impossible as I thought
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
The Heritage Foundation was basically betting on Trump so they could run the place for him. They been foaming at the mouth for a while spreading the gospel of Trumponomics.
This child is picking a fight with what it probably is the most influential conservative think thank in America and his most powerful supporter among the Republican establishment, not to mention the organisation that helped to shape his transition team.
Trump is a goddamned idiot. The real question is if his utter stupidity is going to prevent a disaster or if it's going to result in one.
This child is picking a fight with what it probably is the most influential conservative think thank in America and his most powerful supporter among the Republican establishment, not to mention the organisation that helped to shape his transition team.
Trump is a goddamned idiot. The real question is if his utter stupidity is going to prevent a disaster or if it's going to result in one.
I was sincerely hoping for the GOP to implode last election. I would've been happier if they hadn't slipped in a SCotUS judge and facilitate the rapid growth of nationwide bigotry, but I'm at least happy about the fact it still may happen in the near future.
ebullientprism
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Fucking LMAO!
Shadow Puppetry
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Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
If their tax reform goes as well as their health care reform did, which I fully expect it to given the split in the party, their legislative agenda is cooked.
Tool-assisted
Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Yes, I love this.
Please more of this Mr President =D
How's the public's stance on tax reform? It's easy to mobilise people once they realise they could literally die because the GOP wants rich people to save money, but without the whole insurance thing I wonder if people understand the repercussions for their own lives a tax reform would bring.
Angelus Errare
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45th dimension Go moves from America's Dear Leader.
obijkenobi
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They wanted to do healthcare first so they could save money for tax reform. That way they could cut taxes for the rich while minimizing cuts to popular programs. Now they cant do that so....
They don't have the extra buffer from repealing the ACA to give tax cuts for the rich without massive adjustments.
This means they need to find places to save money on taxes, that means getting rid of many deductions, many of the biggest ones are ones for the middle class. Many of those will again be DOA in the Senate for more moderate Republicans in purple states.
To be a fly on the wall at these organizations right now.
They've helped elect a total idiot thinking that they could use him push their agenda. They didn't bank on him being an idiot who didn't listen.
I mean it's not like the writing wasn't on the wall guys. Haha.
Pretty much.
When the Heritage Foundation called the health care bill a complete failure, I knew it wasn't going to pass. Its like if the IPA in Australia called our Prime Minister an idiot...he'd probably be axed within the year if that ever happened.
But Donald Trump going to pick a fight with some of the strongest conservative associations and think tanks in America? Yeah, there's some chance that there's a 3D chess game being played here. But its more likely that he's way over his head and has the belief that he has significantly more clout and influence than he really has in Washington DC.
After all, this is a man who has threatened hundreds of people and businesses into submission by throwing the most expensive lawyers at them. If you did this with success for more than half of your life, you'd probably overestimate your power too.
I don't think the public has a true partisan stance on tax reform. The answer is probably: "it depends."
Really, the CBO score will be even more important this time around. After it comes out, somebody will release one of those snazzy, simple charts that shows the dollar value and percentage of who is getting the tax breaks, and who is paying for those tax breaks (in terms of who uses the programs that are going away as a result of those tax breaks).
I think in this day and age of hyper-awareness about income inequality, seeing a chart that shows the rich will be some disproportionate share of tax cuts isn't going to be easy to sell to the American public. This is another calculated gamble that the GOP made around 2010-2014: they started blaming Democrats for income inequality when they realized they couldn't escape the issue by saying it wasn't real, or that it was class warfare against the "job creators."
Now, too many people are aware of income inequality, including republicans. They still got Republicans to vote for the GOP in 2016 because "black people and muslims and illegals and abortion"...but in a straight up tax policy discussion, none of that applies. So the question is, can the GOP sell a tax cut for the rich to their base that thought Trump was going to bring back jobs/wages, without being able to talk about "lazy minorities" and "scary muslims"?
My prediction: it will be a lot more difficult than they think. And it's partially of their own doing because they started trying to leverage the income inequality argument for their own benefit around 2012-2014.
BoogieWoogie
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Also, let's be honest, do you really think they had a backup plan if the AHCA failed?
ArchedThunder
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Trump is gonna burn ALL those bridges, not gonna help him in the future.
Delicious.
Delicious.
Dash_Riprock
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So can we once and for all dispel the notion that Trump and Co. have any idea what they are doing?
Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Delicious.
Hey maybe he'll pull Gorsuch, he got that name from all these groups lol. He could still nominate his 80yo moderate judge sister <333
dskillzhtown
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I just wonder is Pence going to send a message to these groups that he is their man, just needs help in getting Trump out.
sooperkool
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They never planned to win, they admitted submitting bills that would never get passed just to say they were fighting.Whatever plan they thought they could enact, Trump blew all to hell with his foolishness.
Hey hey hey. This Obamacare repeal shit IS the republican platform. Half the people pissed of by this bill we're pissed off it didn't fuck over enough people. Stop giving Trump all the credit for the gop being full of human sacks of shit.
I think most of his Twitter followers would not know PP stands for Planned Parenthood but would know what Ocare stands for.
Not gonna lie, I expected all republicans to be spineless and vote for this shit
But the bill not getting he votes, AND Paul Ryan looking foolish, AND Trump indirectly attacking him through this fox show, AND Trump antagonizing republicans over it...
Well this. This is just sublime
But the bill not getting he votes, AND Paul Ryan looking foolish, AND Trump indirectly attacking him through this fox show, AND Trump antagonizing republicans over it...
Well this. This is just sublime
Trump probably wants to avoid tweeting "PP" what with the dossier accusations.
Oh god, he's declaring war on the freedom caucus, heritage foundation, and club for growth too. He's not playing Nth dimentional chess, he's just really fucking stupid.
Damn. You know these people have cards to play against him in terms of the mounting number of investigations into Trump and his cabinet.
Letthemfight.jpg indeed.
Tom Nook Sawyer
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To be fair, I'm not sure I would have recognized PP either, whereas Ocare, though dumb sounding, is understandable
So... just getting around to watching this. Its funny how she says that she did not talk to Trump about any of this. But Trump told people to watch her beforehand. hahahaha.
Oh well. I don't disagree that Ryan needs to step down. But its interesting to make people think that Trump has no weight in the failure of this bill. He is the master negotiator. I'll start to read back through the rest of the thread.
Oh well. I don't disagree that Ryan needs to step down. But its interesting to make people think that Trump has no weight in the failure of this bill. He is the master negotiator. I'll start to read back through the rest of the thread.
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