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[ViviOggi]

I'll probably give this a try once it leaves beta. About time I saw for myself why Dota 2 is so popular.

You're a bit late, Sniper was op last patch

I ended up playing Heroes of the storm, and can nothing but recommend it.

 

[sobaka770]

You're a bit late, Sniper was op last patch

Oh let's not start the MOBA wars here. I highly recommend both HotS and DotA2. DotA2 I played for the past 2 years, while HotS is new and fun fun fun making the DotA2 lane grind obsolete.

 

[Acinixys]

Dota is for the hardcore

LoL and Smite are more accessible but have some P2W stuff

HotS is the best of both worlds

They are all fun games and each has its merits and issues

No need for rampant fanboyism

 

[luffeN]

Fog of War is only super dense during night time
During day, it can still give you advantage.

Imagine a mid situation where you are playing as Pudge.

day vision is 1800 (I think ? or 1600 can't remember), night vision is usually 800 with exceptions. during day you see farther than.

On 2-3 heroes night vision is bigger (night stalker, luna and maybe slark not sure) with 1800. There's also a new item that gives more night vision (moon shard) so that you can see even further
Wider screens giving more vision would be a huge deal tbh. So would be a bigger de-zoom (as it's already possible in spectator mode)

But if you have vision from a ward/creeps etc, instead of looking at your minimap to see enemy movements would be able to see them on your screen

This is an insanely huge problem for a game where map awareness and knowing where the enemy is and what items they currently own makes up such a huge part of the strategy

kanuuna is being

for no reason. Just because X game supports something doesnt mean Y game should as well


This also

Ah, I see. Didn't know there were several vision values.

 

[Mifec]

Oh let's not start the MOBA wars here. I highly recommend both HotS and DotA2. DotA2 I played for the past 2 years, while HotS is new and fun fun fun making the DotA2 lane grind obsolete.

But the lane grind isn't a grind, it's a test of skill.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Phantom Assassin's redesign looks awful.

 

[Skab]

Phantom Assassin's redesign looks awful.

So, uh, do you actually play the game? Because those are all cosmetic items, not redesigns. That's PA's Arcana.

 

[ashecitism]

That's her Arcana.

 

[Haunted]

and it looks awful.

 

[demidar]

and it looks awful.

It's got a great crit special effect though.

 

[Shuggananas]

Oh let's not start the MOBA wars here. I highly recommend both HotS and DotA2. DotA2 I played for the past 2 years, while HotS is new and fun fun fun making the DotA2 lane grind obsolete.

hots makes nothing in dota obsolete, it has nothing to do with it, it's just dumbed down with only xp, no gold and even xp is shared

 

[Aesthet1c]

Man the new UI looks slick! Can't wait to see what kind of changes they make to the hud.

And maybe Source 2 can bring some new graphical effects.

 

[Nzyme32]

Interesting that they didn't mention the new engine by name.

The announcement specifically states that will be discussed in the third part of the announcement later next week. It seems more about being focused on what features they want to show off for each of the 3 reveals as it says - "New Interface, New Engine, New ways to play" - which they split into Interface, Custom Maps, Source 2

"....and later that week we’ll conclude with various details about the new engine and launch the open beta"

 

[Haunted]

It's got a great crit special effect though.

 

[fluffydelusions]

hots makes nothing in dota obsolete, it has nothing to do with it, it's just dumbed down with only xp, no gold and even xp is shared

I would not say it's dumbed down but rather it's meant to be played differently. It's definitely easier to pickup for a newcomer though. Both games require teamwork but HoTS forces it more upon you with the sharing of XP and objectives. You have to move around the map. It's REALLY hard to win a match if the whole team doesn't play the objectives (tributes, seeds etc etc).

 

[SilentRacoon]

Sooo do we get 21:9 support?

Lol of course not, they value more the current HUD skins more than giving players the option to play the game at their preferred resolution, currently they only support up to 16:10 displays.

PA arcana was always the worst of the bunch, her voice sounds like a chipmunk and apparently she lacks a backcone to be standing the way she does.

Sometimes people forget this is just a goddamn GAME smh,

 

[raphier]

The announcement specifically states that will be discussed in the third part of the announcement later next week. It seems more about being focused on what features they want to show off for each of the 3 reveals as it says - "New Interface, New Engine, New ways to play" - which they split into Interface, Custom Maps, Source 2

"....and later that week we’ll conclude with various details about the new engine and launch the open beta"

Chances are it will have another name, like Valve's Pipeline or something

 

[sobaka770]

But the lane grind isn't a grind, it's a test of skill.

What a wonderful skill. Don't get me wrong I farm in DotA just fine, but good riddance to this. To each their own.

 

[Haunted]

PA arcana was always the worst of the bunch, her voice sounds like a chipmunk and apparently she lacks a backcone to be standing the way she does.

what are you talking about that stance is perfectly natural

 

[Nzyme32]

Chances are it will have another name, like Valve's Pipeline or something

Kind of doubt that since every bit of info found so far in game and on the site refers specifically to Source 2; even the options for choosing between Dota2 Source and Dota2 Source 2

 

[ashecitism]

lol

 

[Pewpewlazors99]

What are they chances Valve reintroduces Steam Paid Mods with Dota 2 Custom maps?


I have a bad feeling about this.

 

[Nzyme32]

What are they chances Valve reintroduces Steam Paid Mods with Dota 2 Custom maps?


I have a bad feeling about this.

Why have a bad feeling about it - it's already there in most Valve games in some sense.

 

[Clawww]

I need to see some Vive VR stuff for Dota 2 soon

I'm so ready for that shit

 

[Pewpewlazors99]

Why have a bad feeling about it - it's already there in most Valve games in some sense.

Having to buy individual maps, and all my friends having to buy them isn't something I would want to deal with, and I'm sure most people don't. If you can pay to use all custom maps or something I'd be ok with that.

 

[Exuro]

Chances are it will have another name, like Valve's Pipeline or something

Their content delivery tech is called Steam Pipe, so won't be that.

Kind of doubt that since every bit of info found so far in game and on the site refers specifically to Source 2; even the options for choosing between Dota2 Source and Dota2 Source 2

I don't believe the name will be different, but its internal name being Source 2 has no bearing on the public name. For all we know it'll be called Steam Engine or something.

 

[ashecitism]

What are they chances Valve reintroduces Steam Paid Mods with Dota 2 Custom maps?


I have a bad feeling about this.

Well

www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992234

 

[Nzyme32]

Having to buy individual maps, and all my friends having to buy them isn't something I would want to deal with, and I'm sure most people don't. If you can pay to use all custom maps or something I'd be ok with that.

Free maps won't go anywhere, I'd be pretty certain that any implementation will not allow for all maps to be paid - we already saw how that worked out, and it will be the same again if done identically. No one would try anything if they were all paid

 

[Nymerio]

I'd be ok with paying to play quality modes on matchmaking servers. Though I'm pretty sure I'd have a hard time convincing some of my friends to spend money on them. I guess it would depend on the price, but maybe they'll make it so only one player in the party needs to have a ticket.

 

[Pewpewlazors99]

Well

www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992234

Oh man look at that, I'm really ok with the system if this is it. So heres to hoping!

 

[ashecitism]

Yeah, we'll have to wait if they actually implement it or come up with something else.

 

[SecretMoblin]

I hope it's relatively easy to make fun/useful game modes. Would be nice to get jungling/laning/last hit/stacking/etc. practice modes complete with spawn boxes and timings and easily manipulatable parameters without having to use the mess that is the current system.

 

[ashecitism]

Day 2 is up

 

[JMTHEFOX]

Day 2 is up

I swear to god I just saw something like the Musou logo in the header image:

 

[jediyoshi]

Seeing the cinematic treatment for pudge wars cracks me up

 

[SteveWinwood]

You have to watch the 12 min tools video. It's amazing.

 

[ashecitism]

Made a separate thread for it in case this gets buried.

 

[TouchMyBox]

Well

www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=992234

Yep, if they still want to do paid mods, Dota 2 would be one of the best games to do it in.

 

[jaundicejuice]

I want someone to straight up remake WC3 in Dota 2.

You'll get it in Starcraft 2.

 

[Kazz1896]

People like you are the reason I don't play MOBAs. I came in here being a bit excited about the revamp, and although I've never gotten into DOTA2, thinking now I might give it a shot.

Nope. This kind of attitude entirely turns me off and is all too common in this toxic genre. Such a shame that people act this way about a game. I play to have fun, not to be scolded on how to manage the game camera.

We really don't need cry babies like you in the game. Better you don't play!

 

[Haly]

erm

Duuuude, no. Don't start this shit. He was already banned.

 

[Elixist]

cool. happy as heck for some shorter game modes. i love mobas, but im not a fan of salty 1 hour matches anymore, brings out the worst in alot of peeps including myself at times. pretty much why i only play arams and doms in league anymore.

 

[SpiceMelange]

It's up!

 

[MikeDown]

yeah I mean that is great and all but where is my Half-Life 3?

 

[Haunted]

This is now one of the best game UI designs I have ever seen.


Like, make this part of game design and UI design school curriculum.

 

[Nzyme32]

Surprised no one has made a new thread with the new details

http://www.dota2.com/reborn/part3

 

[Glix]

Guys I havent played DOTA since a little before techies dropped. My buddy said its a whole different game now. Can someone fill me in on the biggest changes or link me to a good recap? I wanna boot it up again but im worried Id be lost.

 

[ekim]

Surprised no one has made a new thread with the new details

http://www.dota2.com/reborn/part3

I did. (for the source 2 stuff)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1065617