Terbinator
Member
Could just be a limitation in general.
Although the U2711's are infamous when it comes to downsampling, I can't go 4K > 2560*1440 @ 60Hz but have to drop it to 30Hz instead - whether it's DP/DVI.
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Could just be a limitation in general.
Although the U2711's are infamous when it comes to downsampling, I can't go 4K > 2560*1440 @ 60Hz but have to drop it to 30Hz instead - whether it's DP/DVI.
therealminime
Member
I have a Dell U2711 and this happens to me. If both monitors have similar menu settings then changing Wide Mode in the Display section to 1:1 might fix it. Worth a try, it affects downsampling for me.
robgrab
Member
I have the same monitor and I can run 3840x1620 @60hz. Check this page for specific settings:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1351914/...ng-your-pc-games-look-better/80#post_19125971
You might also try using GeDoSaTo (Generic Down Sampling Tool). That will let you run that resolution and HIGHER without the performance hit you get from driver based downsampling. It's only compatible with a few games right now but the ones it does support are amazing.
RazzleDazzle
Neo Member
Great guide, will be using this in the near future.
Maybe it's my dumb brain, but I feel like it should be called upsampling and not downsampling? Hehe.
Maybe it's my dumb brain, but I feel like it should be called upsampling and not downsampling? Hehe.
Dude, you are my biggest hero ever! This actually worked (even via HDMI), fucking amazing!
robgrab
Member
Give GeDoSaTo a try too.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807472
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807472
Yeah, whatever custom resolutions you set to downsample from will just become options in the display settings from whichever game you're running (Some exceptions like Lords of Shadow 2, I think, where you have to apply the new resolution at the desktop and then open the game.)
So if you don't want to downsample in the program, you'd just select 1920x1080 like you normally would.
Yep, that's the whole point/thing/purpose!
Hawk269
Member
It is driver related as well. A while back, I was able to down sample from 3840x2160 no problem, then a few drivers later when I tried to do it again, it would not work. I rolled back to the old drivers and it worked. So it is driver related and they do tweaks to them and sometimes something gets wonky and won't allow it.
PhilGPT
Member
That's up to you and your PC.
If your PC and monitor can handle 4K at what you consider playable FPS, then why not go higher than 1440p?
Oh okay. Well, my computer can handle it but my monitor can't. Too bad.That's up to you and your PC.
If your PC and monitor can handle 4K at what you consider playable FPS, then why not go higher than 1440p?
I'm in the market for a 3rd monitor right now though, so maybe I should look for something a little better than what I have.
A monitor which can go above 1440p maybe.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
For some reason under the option "Perform scaling on" I only get the "display" option and not the "GPU" one. Is this a problem? I'm running my PC into a TV not a PC monitor via my a'v receiver.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Bioshock Infinite isn't showing the resolutions in game.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
Quick question about downsampling. Whenever I downsample from 1080p to 1440p, my games tend to darken by a good bit. I try to counter this by increasing the overall brightness in-game, though the overall image tends to worsen as I continue to increase the brightness. Does anyone here have a solution? My pc is hooked up to my 40 inch Tv via HDMI, and I'm using a NVIDIA GTX 660, for anyone who is wondering.
Ran Echelon
Neo Member
I did have had 4K @60hz through displayport working on my Dell u2311h with a 770.
However, I found that my screen was occasionally going black for a few seconds at a time, even when not downsampling. The fix was to delete all downsampling resolutions or just use DVI.
Not sure what I'm doing wrong here but I can't get even the first resolution (2560x1440) to save.
I enter it as a custom resolution and press test, and it displays fine on my monitor, I get the dialog box asking if I want to save it, and that's where things go wrong.
Pressing save gave me a blank screen and my monitor telling me the resolution wasn't supported - pressing cancel doesn't allow me to save the resolution to use in-game.
I'm not sure what the issue is as it showed the resolution fine on the test, only stopped working when I tried to save it?
My monitor is a Dell U2414H, and my card is a GTX 460 (maybe this is the issue? The card is quite old, I'll be upgrading to a new PC with a 780 in the next couple of weeks so maybe I should try again then?)
I enter it as a custom resolution and press test, and it displays fine on my monitor, I get the dialog box asking if I want to save it, and that's where things go wrong.
Pressing save gave me a blank screen and my monitor telling me the resolution wasn't supported - pressing cancel doesn't allow me to save the resolution to use in-game.
I'm not sure what the issue is as it showed the resolution fine on the test, only stopped working when I tried to save it?
My monitor is a Dell U2414H, and my card is a GTX 460 (maybe this is the issue? The card is quite old, I'll be upgrading to a new PC with a 780 in the next couple of weeks so maybe I should try again then?)
Barrow Roll
Member
It's an issue with Nvidia drivers that I still can't believe hasn't been fixed or addressed yet. Basically, standard HDTV resolutions like 1080p are output using the limited RGB color range (16-235) when connected via HDMI. When you're changing the resolution to 1440p it's switching back to full RGB range (0-255) which is typically used by PC monitors. There's a setting in the control panel to change which RGB range you're using but it only affects video content.
The solutions: either connect your PC with a DVI cable, or use Durante's Nvidia RGB Full/limited range toggler. It's simple to use, just follow the steps on screen then change the black levels setting on your TV to match your selected RGB range. Your GPU will no longer switch back and forth between RGB ranges at different resolutions.
Thanks for the response. Looks like I'll use Durante's tool to fix this problem. I appreciate the help, thank you.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Thanks for this. I've experienced this too. It helped get Dark Souls II to appear closer to its initial showing though
EroticSushi
Member
Hey guys, I was wondering if someone can clarify something on this.
I have added 2560x1440 and 3200x1800 in the NVIDIA Control Panel section for the resolutions but if I have my display resolution set at 1920x1080, does that effect it when I enable the higher resolutions in game?
So say I have my resolution set to 1920x1080 and then launch a game and set the in-game resolution to 3200x1800. Does it still downsample or do I need to set my desktop resolution to 3200x1800 before launching the game?
I have added 2560x1440 and 3200x1800 in the NVIDIA Control Panel section for the resolutions but if I have my display resolution set at 1920x1080, does that effect it when I enable the higher resolutions in game?
So say I have my resolution set to 1920x1080 and then launch a game and set the in-game resolution to 3200x1800. Does it still downsample or do I need to set my desktop resolution to 3200x1800 before launching the game?
No .just changing the ingame resolutions will downsample the image .
The only reason you want to change your desktop resolution is when you want to downsample a game that does not allow the resolution to go any higher then 1080p.
Leatherface
Member
Lifesaver. Thanks!
Dries
Member
I find this interesting. Still want to know:
1. To all people that apply downsampling: Do you use it in all of your games?
2. Is it better to have no "normal ingame" AA options enabled, while still downsampling to the max? Or is it better that all of the ingame AA is maxed out first and then AFTER that see how far you can downsample?
3. Will this make my GPU run hotter? Basically, is it dangerous for any part of my PC?
4. Would OC'ing my GPU be beneficial?
5. How does downsampling rate in the "OCD forever tweaking" field? Can you basically tweak endlessy forever to get it running at an acceptable fps or are there just hard boundaries where either you can make it fps-wise, or you just can't.
6. Do you apply one resolution for all of your games or does every game have their own custom resolution?
7. Would it be that by downsampling The Witcher 2 I could get it to look better than The Witcher 3 (theoretically wise)?
8. Could you downsample a game like The Witcher 3 at launch or would that just melt our computer?
1. To all people that apply downsampling: Do you use it in all of your games?
2. Is it better to have no "normal ingame" AA options enabled, while still downsampling to the max? Or is it better that all of the ingame AA is maxed out first and then AFTER that see how far you can downsample?
3. Will this make my GPU run hotter? Basically, is it dangerous for any part of my PC?
4. Would OC'ing my GPU be beneficial?
5. How does downsampling rate in the "OCD forever tweaking" field? Can you basically tweak endlessy forever to get it running at an acceptable fps or are there just hard boundaries where either you can make it fps-wise, or you just can't.
6. Do you apply one resolution for all of your games or does every game have their own custom resolution?
7. Would it be that by downsampling The Witcher 2 I could get it to look better than The Witcher 3 (theoretically wise)?
8. Could you downsample a game like The Witcher 3 at launch or would that just melt our computer?
LumpOfCole
Member
I'm kind of wondering the technical reason that a monitor won't allow certain virtual resolutions, since it seems all the work is being done on the GPU?
hendersonhank
Member
Updated to nvidia 340.52 and now I no longer have the option for GPU scaling. Only "display" shows in that dropdown. Wtf?
I_D
Member
Now, as for my question. I've seen a lot of people ask it, but it's hard to pinpoint an answer.
The most limiting factors are the monitor and the connecting cable, correct?
My computer and monitor can display 3840x2160 just fine, but can't do anything higher, no matter how many different timings I try. I'm connected via DVI.
Would I have better luck with a different connection, like HDMI? Do I need a different monitor?
And also, are native-1440p+ monitors reliable for downsampling? Is there a way to tell which monitors are better than others?
MrRoderick
Member
Barrow Roll
Member
Just follow the steps in the OP? Borderlands 2 doesn't require any specific settings, just pick your custom resolution in-game. I like to combine 2560x1440 with the in-game FXAA.
Pakoe
Member
Okay so i finally got 4k working thanks to an old samsung syncmaster monitor my brother doesn't use anymore, but the new resolutions don't show up in game.
The OP states this is because the Hz is too high, but how can this be changed?
Okay, the original question made it seem like i didn't try anything lol.
The red and green numbers don't seem to change the numbers in the black square, or is that not the way how it works?
The OP states this is because the Hz is too high, but how can this be changed?
Okay, the original question made it seem like i didn't try anything lol.
The red and green numbers don't seem to change the numbers in the black square, or is that not the way how it works?
Adding my voice to the "has anyone" pool. Anyone tried Mass Effect 1?
I've just put the latest texture mods in and fancy playing through at as high an image quality as possible. Assuming that, being an early gen game, my 660 could beast it.
CAVEAT:
I play on a standard LCD TV. Philips 9632.
I've just put the latest texture mods in and fancy playing through at as high an image quality as possible. Assuming that, being an early gen game, my 660 could beast it.
CAVEAT:
I play on a standard LCD TV. Philips 9632.
Phreakuency
Banned
It looks a little better at 4K but not worth the performance hit. Benchmark on max at 1920x1080 is 60, 3840x2160 was about 25.
Dries
Member
Thanks, all I need to know. SSAA x4 works fine too, so I won't go through the extra hassle.