I agree, that was a bad call.I fucking hate this shit. We already got their classic costumes with their SS versions, the RoF outfits need some representation and SSB was perfect for them. I'm really furious right now.
For the record, hundreds of things have changed so don't take my word for it.
Also, Kinda heart broken. I guess I'll have to pray for DLC now. But the fact he's in a super makes it kind of hopeless.
When Android 17 joins the battle, Alfonzo assists Android 18.Ok, crusade here we go.
If you guys feel like helping, I tweeted at bandai to get their attention, any like and retweet will help.
https://twitter.com/JustSlaythe/status/898200919820685312
Ok, crusade here we go.
If you guys feel like helping, I tweeted at bandai to get their attention, any like and retweet will help.
https://twitter.com/JustSlaythe/status/898200919820685312
Oh WOW nice work Slaythe. Got my everything crossed!
*gone* more images!!
Like... all but one of those are regular DBZ stuff, lol.
You know, this was always one of the more disappointing things about Z. Not many characters felt that they had truly unique fighting styles.
Regular DBZ stuff except 17 is the only one doing it consistently. He's a speed dodge type character, and his barrier's usage is unique, we've seen several applications for it in Super.
He would be great as assist obviously.
He also isn't a kid / dwarf, so he would be an interesting speed archetype with normal body type. Lots of things they can do.
Thanks for the support guys, appreciate it.
I'm honestly not sure about DLC either because they decided about that pretty early on. I did my best behind the scenes to push for it but yeah... The girls are safe bets because the saiyan wank will never end and they need actual girls.
Also Cordy, Botamo ? LMAO nobody is gonna pay actual money to play Botamo unless they made him literally untouchable. Which would be hilarious.
Thanks for the support guys, appreciate it.
I'm honestly not sure about DLC either because they decided about that pretty early on. I did my best behind the scenes to push for it but yeah... The girls are safe bets because the saiyan wank will never end and they need actual girls.
Also Cordy, Botamo ? LMAO nobody is gonna pay actual money to play Botamo unless they made him literally untouchable. Which would be hilarious.
Ok, crusade here we go.
If you guys feel like helping, I tweeted at bandai to get their attention, any like and retweet will help.
https://twitter.com/JustSlaythe/status/898200919820685312
Thanks for the support guys, appreciate it.
I'm honestly not sure about DLC either because they decided about that pretty early on. I did my best behind the scenes to push for it but yeah... The girls are safe bets because the saiyan wank will never end and they need actual girls.
Also Cordy, Botamo ? LMAO nobody is gonna pay actual money to play Botamo unless they made him literally untouchable. Which would be hilarious.
wait whats going on? did we get a final roster announcement or something?
I appreciate this post.When Android 17 joins the battle, Alfonzo assists Android 18.
Alfonzo: "Leave it to me!"
Yeah I say let 17 be in a DLC packet or be one of the first characters announced for "Dragon Ball Fighter S: Super" or whatever they'll call it. If there's DLC I see these characters being in it.
- 17
- Merged Zamasu
- Future Trunks (Super)
- Botamo (for his playstyle)
- Roshi
I'm not convinced 17 won't be in. He could very easily still be in and have a move where he summons 18.
How would DBS Future Trunks differ from DBZ Future Trunks? Not seeing any reason for him being in the game with the DBZ version already there. Is he going to get mad for his super or summon Mei?
Pretty much this. I think everyone is overreacting. IMO 17 is a lock for the main roster now that we have 16 and 18 confirmed. Just because they didn't announce them all at once doesn't really mean anything.
It's not like 17 can't be DLC later. He only shows up in one super.You only have to put yourself in the shoes of someone building a Dragon Ball Z/Super fighting game roster in early 2016 to know which characters will and won't be in it.
Android 17 wouldn't have made any sense at the time. Android 18 is guaranteed, and Android 16 has a more distinct moveset than 17 - no amount of cool looking elbows and backflips will change that.
This is why you can expect characters like Dabura - in a fighting game you want the most diverse roster possible, and a red devil wearing a blue jumpsuit and wielding a sword is a big step in that direction.
Android 17 was so low on the priority list that they made him part of Android 18's moveset, which is a move I have no doubt they're kicking themselves for doing. But they couldn't have predicted the resurgence of a character who was as relevant as Launch or Raditz only a few months ago.
Goku Black and Hit will round out the Super representation, as those characters would have been in discussion when a roster was being planned. I would have expected Android 17 as a DLC character, but given that they made him and 18 into one character Caulifla seems much more likely now.
I also wouldn't expect a Super variation for Trunks. SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta are distinct forms that represent Super, but 'SSJ Rage' isn't. SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta were likely split off because having SSB as a SSJ Goku transformation would have been too many options for one character, and splitting SSB Goku means doing the same for Vegeta. But I don't see them doing Super Trunks - it feels like it would be one too many clones.
It's not like 17 can't be DLC later. He only shows up in one super.
Again, one move, like how Goku shows up in Gohan's ultimate move.He could be, but as I said integrating him into Android 18's moveset makes that unlikely, imo. I feel like they'd have to change her moveset to add Android 17.
I'm sure they're kicking themselves for doing it.
He could be, but as I said integrating him into Android 18's moveset makes that unlikely, imo. I feel like they'd have to change her moveset to add Android 17.
I'm sure they're kicking themselves for doing it.
Krillin is one of the OGs. He was an obvious pick.if we're getting geeks like krillin and android 16, we sure as fuck better get captain ginyu
For all you know he only shows up in her LV3, which is a glorified cutscene.
Not like Goku being in Gohan's kamehameha prevented anything.
Maybe. But I'm just following my logic here - the same logic which concluded that Android 16 would get into the roster ahead of 17.
They wouldn't have to overhaul 18's entire moveset to include 17 on his own as DLC, just one cutscene. And even then, ASW doesn't even have to change it if they don't want to. Just give 17 his DBS outfit to set him apart.Maybe. But I'm just following my logic here - the same logic which concluded that Android 16 would get into the roster ahead of 17.
You only have to put yourself in the shoes of someone building a Dragon Ball Z/Super fighting game roster in early 2016 to know which characters will and won't be in it.
Android 17 wouldn't have made any sense at the time. Android 18 is guaranteed, and Android 16 has a more distinct moveset than 17 - no amount of cool looking elbows and backflips will change that.
This is why you can expect characters like Dabura - in a fighting game you want the most diverse roster possible, and a red devil wearing a blue jumpsuit and wielding a sword is a big step in that direction.
Android 17 was so low on the priority list that they made him part of Android 18's moveset, which is a move I have no doubt they're kicking themselves for doing. But they couldn't have predicted the resurgence of a character who was as relevant as Launch or Raditz only a few months ago.
Goku Black and Hit will round out the Super representation, as those characters would have been in discussion when a roster was being planned. I would have expected Android 17 as a DLC character, but given that they made him and 18 into one character Caulifla seems much more likely now.
I also wouldn't expect a Super variation for Trunks. SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta are distinct forms that represent Super, but 'SSJ Rage' isn't. SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta were likely split off because having SSB as a SSJ Goku transformation would have been too many options for one character, and splitting SSB Goku means doing the same for Vegeta. But I don't see them doing Super Trunks - it feels like it would be one too many clones.
Damn you shilling for Dabura hard af lol
What logic ?
The logic I've explained in my posts - how I think a developer would approach a roster if they didn't have a bias towards Android 17.
Right, but that's separate from him being added as a DLC.
You said he won't because he's part of 18's moveset... but you don't know that ? Him being part of a level 3 (a cutscene) to mimic an anime moment is hardly "wasting the character" on somebody else's moveset. That's similar to the father son kamehameha.
Now if 18's assist is 17 showing up with his shield, I guess that's game over.
that logic doesn't make much sense
it's ignoring the super representation that we've seen
it's ignoring the super representation that we all suspect is coming
it's ignoring the way game dev works
and it's ignoring the fact that the game is months away
They made a second Vegeta.
Trunks in Super has : Sword energy beams, Garlick Gun/Final Flash, a new transformation, and the genki sword.
Except it doesn't make sense.
"Fight the Androids" was the theme, they announce 16 and how there is a big story twist regarding the character.
Either they would have announced 16 alone, or with all 3 androids.
On top of that, they would have shown 17 and 18 together first, or after 16 was announced. This was the perfect opportunity to reveal the 3rd man in the 3 men team.
17 wouldn't be the Super version but the Z version too. And they did show him out in the scan, as "an assist".
No reason to hide 17 in a scan that had SSBkaioken etc...
He's the opposite of a lock.
Fair enough. If I'm overestimating how much 17 appears in 18's moveset I could be wrong. Android 17 is basically the Goku Black or Hit of this Super arc, so I'm sure they'd bend over backwards to include him.
Maybe 17 just isn't in a state where theyre ready to show/announce him yet?
It's clear that theyre not really announcing characters in any sort of given pattern, and are most likely just revealing them as they get to a point that theyre ready. So, maybe 17 just isnt there yet.