DiipuSurotu
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We got Good Zamasu and Evil Zamasu... Maybe he will come back as a good guy, Usamaz.
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We got Good Zamasu and Evil Zamasu... Maybe he will come back as a good guy, Usamaz.
I grew up with the portuguese dub but I never liked it much. Especially Vegeta, which was ridiculous. Also, the main dude who voiced all the "good" saiyans was a bad actor with zero range, they all sounded alike.
Another problem is their reliance on memes and breaking the fourth wall. That's especially atrocious in Super's dub, where it turned into basically a "let's see who can come up with the most referential humour".
And Vegeta's character was basically murdered in cold blood. To say that they threw away the original material would be putting it mildly. He's basically an exaggerated "gajo de alfama" (fellow portuguese gaffers will know what I mean). For everyone else, imagine some kind of trailer park trash, that's more or less what he turned to.
I had to stop watching the PT dub.
Another problem is their reliance on memes and breaking the fourth wall. That's especially atrocious in Super's dub, where it turned into basically a "let's see who can come up with the most referential humour".
And Vegeta's character was basically murdered in cold blood. To say that they threw away the original material would be putting it mildly. He's basically an exaggerated "gajo de alfama" (fellow portuguese gaffers will know what I mean). For everyone else, imagine some kind of trailer park trash, that's more or less what he turned to.
I had to stop watching the PT dub.
The Last One
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Guys, I don't know. Kid Buu was really, REALLY strong. I guess SSJB would win in the end but not an easy match for sure.
The Silver
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you must not be watching Super. Kid Buu is a SSJ3 level fighter, SSJ3 Goku in the buu saga is fodder compared to base Goku in Super, now scale that up to SSJB, it's not a discussion.
Kid Buu is fodder to Goku and Vegeta, probably be a fanboy and say that Gohan and Piccolo can give him a hard time now.
RocknRola
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Pfft. You suck! Boooo!
/I kid, I kid 
// Or do I? >.>
/// Nah, I also grew up watching it. Loved it, exactly because it's so cray-cray. It's unique in it's sillyness. Besides, it's Dragon Ball, it doesn't need to be 100% correctly translated for one to get the overall gist of it And to be honest, to this day, I still prefer some of the PT voices over the English & Japanese ones. Like Frieza, Roshi, young Krillin, adult Trunks, Pilaf, etc.
And to be honest, to this day, I still prefer some of the PT voices over the English & Japanese ones. Like Frieza, Roshi, young Krillin, adult Trunks, Pilaf, etc.Pfft. You suck! Boooo!
/I kid, I kid
// Or do I? >.>
/// Nah, I also grew up watching it. Loved it, exactly because it's so cray-cray. It's unique in it's sillyness. Besides, it's Dragon Ball, it doesn't need to be 100% correctly translated for one to get the overall gist of it
Man, I really disagree
especially about Trunks. I'll give you Roshi, though, he was really good.
RocknRola
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Man, I really disagree
With Trunks I think I may still be suffering from an overdose of his JP voice from the past arc haha
I honestly didn't like it that much, but that's just me
Wait, did I miss something??
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I guess "Good" Zamasu is a bit much but he at least wasn't straight up evil at first. He was just an arrogant student with a pretty terrible teacher.
In the Future timeline, which relatively speaking is 20 years "ahead" of the Present timeline, Future Gowasu was still alive at the start of the saga even though Future Zamasu had 20 years more than in the Present timeline to kill him.
Undead Fantasy
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It's actually 17 years though.
ArchedThunder
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Future Gowasu was already dead, we don't know how many planets Black and Zamasu cleansed before coming to Earth, but they apparently had done at least some before Earth.
Huw_Dawson
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The future timeline has no bubble-popping Goku to challenge Zamasu about his "Gods are superior to humans" shtick. He's a bad dude - the problem is that he's a bad dude who didn't get good writing, so he just came off as one-note.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I really enjoyed Present Zamasu, but yeah, Future Zamasu didn't really get enough care, good thing he had Black with him.
finished commission for TeeHallums. He did that music placement video that gets posted from time to time here and he did the Kikuchi cut of BoG with Ajay. he's a big Gohan fan. pretty specific request.
RocknRola
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Is young Gohan crying at how much of a failure he'll become? :v
Also, looks great
Like a coloured page out of the manga! Really loved watching this one come together.
JadedWriter
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This is great !!!
Kid Buu ain't even the strongest Buu, man. He's nothing to Goku and Vegeta now. The power creep is real lol.
This is really well done Olympia. Gohan's pain is down-right palpable in this.
Fulminator
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Srs?
Goku literally says that he could have beaten Kid Buu as ss3 if he hadn't spent so much time dicking around and having fun fighting him
Goku was full of shit. What I like about Kid Buu though is that he has such ambiguous limits, even compared to other versions of Buu. If they brought him back, they could write him to have unlimited stamina and health without really contradicting anything in Z.
Unknown One
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Kid Buu practically had unlimited Stamina I think. If they made Kid Buu God tier, he'll be a monster. He learns techniques just by seeing it once.
There was a reason why Buu in general was end game for DBZ. He was straight up unfair. Unlimited stamina, practically immortal, learns techniques just by seeing it once, can absorb people, have the power to transform objects, flexible body, and extremely acute ki sensing abilities.
There was a reason why Buu in general was end game for DBZ. He was straight up unfair. Unlimited stamina, practically immortal, learns techniques just by seeing it once, can absorb people, have the power to transform objects, flexible body, and extremely acute ki sensing abilities.
Chaotic-Strike
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I can't help but see Gohan crying because he found out what he's about to become in Super.
On a more serious note that's some great artwork.
Unknown One
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Probably if Zeno lets him, but that'll be like the worst case scenario. Rip universes if that was possible.
The Last One
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Didn't Goku fight him as SSJ3 and lost?
I haven't watched Majin saga for a long time now so I'm not sure.
ArchedThunder
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Great art, but I'm confused, is Gohan going to be his own dad now?
Linkstrikesback
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He couldn't build up power to maintain ss3.
It doesn't matter now. Goku is supposedly stronger in his base form now than he was in SS3 back then, no matter how stupid that is.
Combined with the complete lack of energy drain, kid buu Vs goku wouldn't be a fight now.
thanks everyone <3
thanks, and thanks for coming to the stream! it was fun.
mostly just gohan reflecting on one of his many past struggles, i think? idk. i just was asked to draw it
while i'm at it i'd thought i'd share some cels and genga i got for pretty cheap that came in the mail today http://imgur.com/a/vASXy
thanks, and thanks for coming to the stream! it was fun.
mostly just gohan reflecting on one of his many past struggles, i think? idk. i just was asked to draw it
while i'm at it i'd thought i'd share some cels and genga i got for pretty cheap that came in the mail today http://imgur.com/a/vASXy
ArchedThunder
Banned
So I learned that there are people that think Vegeta is out of character because he's prioritizing his pregnant wife over training, even though that's consistent with his character development. There are also people that think Toriyama and Toei are done with him because of that, instead of, you know, him fighting and training harder to protect his baby.
I dunno, I like my idea of Gohan raising himself.
I dunno, I like my idea of Gohan raising himself.
But he did that already.
Considering how many people seem to think that Super has completely ruined Gohan for showing that he has prioritized being a good father, I guess I can't be surprised by that reaction, haha.
Ohh these are super cute! Great choice of scenes.
It's the same shit people said about Gohan before and we all know how wrong they were about that. Guess characters aren't allowed to be dads in fightan shows or something idk.
Guess our definitions of that are different cause he's done plenty since the end of the Trunks arc already.
Ultra Numb
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Goku would casually beat Kid Buu even in his base form at this point.
I guess so!
The last few episodes have got me a little bit excited about seeing Gohan in the tournament, I have to admit. But not much has changed at all for him since RoF. At least from what I can tell. He's trained a little more and put up a good fight, but he still lost a preliminary match against fodder. Even Buu won his (I understand it's plot and he had to lose since he was second to fight, buuuut)
We'll see how it goes
Yeah no difference at all.
He was poisoned anyway. Even Goku lost to poison against Frost, so what's your excuse ?
Yeah no difference at all.
He was poisoned anyway. Even Goku lost to poison against Frost, so what's your excuse ?
My excuse? I don't need an excuse. It was a good fight, like I said, but he lost.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It was a tie and he had the edge, despite his handicap.
Oh thank god it wasn't just me who thought that.
You're talking about Kanzenshuu? They have the worst of the worst Vegeta's fans. Vegeta doesn't get the spotlight for a few episode and sudden he's ruined forever. Which is funny since Goku was called a sociopath for pointing out how he was dead when Chi-Chi was pregnant with Goten.
From the same fandom who calls Goku a shit father. I can't help but laugh at the irony.
Hellwarden
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Thinking upon it, I think Gohan vs Lavenda is my favorite fight in Super.
It's not an actual sport.
Losing or winning is irrelevant. There has been character development, growth, and Gohan wasn't the weakling depicted in FnF. So the fact that he didn't "win" (to be correct, because he didn't lose), doesn't mean that he's the same.
Well, it was still a tie since he collapsed again before the Grand Priest called it. And, as Goku pointed out after losing to Tien, a lost is a lost. Or a tie in this case.
ArchedThunder
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Undead Fantasy
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Always thankful for these.
Pankratous
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Have you watched Super?
Kid Buu is total fodder compared to base Goku and Vegeta now. Not even remotely comparable.
Edit: And he was the second weakest form of Buu anyway.
ArchedThunder
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It's show day!
I probably won't be here because I'm going to be having dinner with my mom and her boyfriend.
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