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[NeonZ]

Please never write anything ever.

I mean, really, do you raise the same complaint about Goku being able to sense ki and use kiais in the 23rd Budokai even though the manga never showed his training at all?

Incorporating a technique from a GoD after training under the master of the GoD in most cases would be a fairly natural development, it's only odd here because the anime itself, the first version of the story everyone saw in this case, didn't do it.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

As for Trunks, him cutting Merged Zamasu means nothing in the manga since he didn't do anything to earned it. Sheesh, Gohan killing Cell is more well-earned, and anyone who knows me knows how I feel about that.

It just doesn't feel climatic or good at all.

Trunks was just handled horribly in the arc.

Hell even Zeno appearing wouldn't have the same impact since

Spoiler

there's just weak Merged Zamasu clones there.

In the anime everyone was going to get fucked. All existence.

 

[HeroR]

Nah.

That Trunks moment was epic as fuck.

I thought you hated that moment.

 

[Skeeter49]

The Universal Survival arc is probably going to be a nightmare in the manga.

 

[AdanVC]

|OT7| The Tournament​ of Power Begins!

|OT8| Only two hours for the Tournament of Power to Begin!

|OT9| The Tournament​ of Power is About to Begin for Real Now!

|OT10| The Tournament​ of Power FINALLY Begins!

 

[Toad.T]

|OT7| ARISE, MOD-SHENRON! GRANT ME MY WISH!

 

[HeroR]

Whiss teached him off screen. Boom, justified.

Now try to explain how Trunks learned Genji Dama and how he converted that power into his sword and how it was that powerful with the Earth almost entirely destroyed and Goku/Vegeta wrecked.

Why would he teach it to Goku who isn't a God of Destruction.

We saw Trunks convert energy into his sword, so that doesn't need to be explained. And Merged Zamasu was weakened.

Really, you're willing to handwave the manga, but when the anime imply something, you're not willing to do the same thing.

 

[ArchedThunder]

|OT7| (Don't) Read the Manga

 

[Real Hero]

'What shall slip next?' Is the only real title

 

[Undead Fantasy]

I thought you hated that moment.

The only thing I didn't like about episode 66 is the amount screen time Vegito got but now thanks to the manga I got over it lol. He got even less time there.

I don't remember hating on Trunks moment.

 

[Skeeter49]

'What shall slip next?' Is the only real title

+5

 

[Fj0823]

The Universal Survival arc is probably going to be a nightmare in the manga.

Exclusive Preview

Goku: "Guys, you're all too weak, I'll go fight myself, Power is everything in this tournament"

*Wins Tournament using Zenoh's power combined with SSG to erase all other competitors*

Goku: "That was hard."

NeoGAF: "Well he could've learned that off-screen!!, at least muh power levels are consistent in the manga, How can you justify bringing Roshi and Krillin like in the anime? Older characters getting better? BS"

 

[HeroR]

I mean, really, do you raise the same complaint about Goku being able to sense ki and use kiais in the 23rd Budokai even though the manga never showed his training at all?

Incorporating a technique from a GoD after training under the master of the GoD in most cases would be a fairly natural development, it's only odd here because the anime itself, the first version of the story everyone saw in this case, didn't do it.

Not the same thing since know Kami was giving Goku spiritual training. And sensing ki wasn't the key of winning a major battle. Whis never implied he was giving Goku a technique used only by the God of Destruction so far. That needs more explanation than, 'he learned it off-scene'.

The only thing I didn't like about episode 66 is the amount screen time Vegito got but now thanks to the manga I got over it lol. He got even less time there.

I don't remember hating on Trunks moment.

Weren't you the one who called it the 'power of friendship' in a mocking way? Maybe it was someone else.

 

[L Thammy]

The only thing I didn't like about episode 66 is the amount screen time Vegito got but now thanks to the manga I got over it lol. He got even less time there.

I don't remember hating on Trunks moment.

Maybe you just can't keep track of everything you've been hating on. Have you considered keeping a list?

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Not the same thing since know Kami was giving Goku spiritual training. And sensing ki wasn't the key of winning a major battle. Whis never implied he was giving Goku a technique used only by the God of Destruction so far. That needs more explanation than, 'he learned it off-scene'.



Weren't you the one who called it the 'power of friendship' in a mocking way? Maybe it was someone else.

I honestly can't remember.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

The Universal Survival arc is probably going to be a nightmare in the manga.

I don't see how it can happen in the form it does in the Anime. An 80 people royale in the manga would take until the heat death of the universe to finish. I have to suspect it'll be a far smaller number of people per team, because lets be honest, each team isn't going to have 10 people who really matter.
Maybe they go with 5 and go with Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Frieza and 17 as the team. The later two potentially need to be reintroduced to the cast in case they're needed in the future, Gohan needs his triumphant return and Goku and Vegeta are self explanatory. Sorry to Krillin/Tien/Picollo/18/Roshi fans, I guess

 

[L Thammy]

I don't see how it can happen in the form it does in the Anime. An 80 people royale in the manga would take until the heat death of the universe to finish. I have to suspect it'll be a far smaller number of people per team, because lets be honest, each team isn't going to have 10 people who really matter.
Maybe they go with 5 and go with Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Frieza and 17 as the team. The later two potentially need to be reintroduced to the cast in case they're needed in the future, Gohan needs his triumphant return and Goku and Vegeta are self explanatory. Sorry to Krillin/Tien/Picollo/18/Roshi fans, I guess

Toyotaro said he's going to overtake the anime, so we're going to see

THE TOURNAMENT BEGINS
SOME TIME LATER, EVERYONE WAS ELIMINATED

or some such shenanigans. Even if they have every fighter we're not going to see every fight.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

'What shall slip next?' Is the only real title

Hmm.
Dragon Ball Super |OT7| What shall slip next?
Dragon Ball Super |OT7| Oops, my hand slipped. What shall slip next?
Dragon Ball Super |OT7| Oops, my hand slipped. Oops, so did mine.

Not sure which I prefer.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Maybe you just can't keep track of everything you've been hating on. Have you considered keeping a list?

I'm pretty sure I didn't hate on Trunks. Just Vegito's screen time.

 

[Fj0823]

Toyotaro said he's going to overtake the anime, so we're going to see

THE TOURNAMENT BEGINS
SOME TIME LATER, EVERYONE WAS ELIMINATED

or some such shenanigans. Even if they have every fighter we're not going to see every fight.

|OT7| Everything was Off-screen

 

[Goon]

Does superman even have a chance against goku now that he can use the hakai?

 

[Chase17]

|OT7| How old is this thread? It's 17

Spoiler

I tried....

 

[Kagari]

|OT7| (Don't) Read the Manga

I like this one.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

I like this one.

Seconded.

 

[L Thammy]

|OT7| More slippery than buttered petroleum jelly black ice

 

[HardRojo]

|OT7| Buu is Free. Za Tournament of Power finally begins.

 

[Magwik]

Put me in the "What shall slip next" boat

 

[Chase17]

'What shall slip next?' Is the only real title

Oh yeah, that's good.

 

[LSauchelli]

Regarding the spoilers for chapter 25 of the manga:

Spoiler

Am I seeing it wrong, or did Vegeta get a rage boost when he saved Goku? Toyotaro mentioned before that Vegeta was supposed to be 'the main character' of the arc, maybe he's the one that's going to get a similar boost that Trunks got in the anime?


Honestly, Goku and Vegeta knowing Hakai sooner or later is not that out of there, I mean, they are getting trained by Whis.

 

[TeamLeftMatch]

Last one I swear

|OT7| Love your enemies.

 

[HeroR]

Spoiler

My feeling, I actually liked Goku using Haki. I never saw it a magical erased souls technique that can kill anyone that fans wanked it to be. So Goku using it is awesome, but I am a bias since I am a Goku fan.

At the same time, him knowing and having a handwave explanation makes it cheap, like the Trunks' Spirit Bomb sword.

 

[NandoGip]

I like this one.

Thirded

 

[L Thammy]

|OT7| Hakai! *OT6 disappears*

 

[Chaotic-Strike]

|OT7| (Don't) Read the Manga

This one is perfect.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

I don't like the manga OT name. Seems unnecessarily mean when there are plenty of other good, somewhat funny options relevant to where the anime is.

 

[HardRojo]

Spoiler

My feeling, I actually liked Goku using Haki. I never saw it a magical erased souls technique that can kill anyone that fans wanked it to be. So Goku using it is awesome, but I am a bias since I am a Goku fan.

At the same time, him knowing and having a handwave explanation makes it cheap, like the Trunks' Spirit Bomb sword.

Spoiler

I'd be fine with him learning it down the road, but not like this all of a sudden. They already attained SSB off-screen and that was bullshit, so if there are new techniques to be acquired, I want to see how they got them.

 

[VariantX]

Regarding the spoilers for chapter 25 of the manga:

Spoiler

Am I seeing it wrong, or did Vegeta get a rage boost when he saved Goku? Toyotaro mentioned before that Vegeta was supposed to be 'the main character' of the arc, maybe he's the one that's going to get a similar boost that Trunks got in the anime?


Honestly, Goku and Vegeta knowing Hakai sooner or later is not that out of there, I mean, they are getting trained by Whis.

Of course , the ingredients are all there for it to happen. The problem is that there's never any build up to anything major that happens. Simply dropping small, near insignificant hints would have been enough. The pacing and story skips never allow for it so it's not as satisfying to read as it could be.

 

[Nightbird]

Whiss teached him off screen. Boom, justified.

Now try to explain how Trunks learned Genji Dama and how he converted that power into his sword and how it was that powerful with the Earth almost entirely destroyed and Goku/Vegeta wrecked.

Future King Kai teached him off screen. Boom, justified.

 

[Skeeter49]

Exclusive Preview

Goku: "Guys, you're all too weak, I'll go fight myself, Power is everything in this tournament"

*Wins Tournament using Zenoh's power combined with SSG to erase all other competitors*

Goku: "That was hard."

NeoGAF: "Well he could've learned that off-screen!!, at least muh power levels are consistent in the manga, How can you justify bringing Roshi and Krillin like in the anime? Older characters getting better? BS"

Goku fuses with Both Zeno's. Believe.

 

[Real Hero]

Also how lame is what happens to zamasu after being sliced compared the the cosmic horror from the the anime.

 

[Skeeter49]

In the manga Goku will learn he had Goku Black in him the whole time, and channels it to beat everytime in the ToP.

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Also how lame is what happens to zamasu after being sliced compared the the cosmic horror from the the anime.

His anime version will never be topped.

 

[HeroR]

Spoiler

I'd be fine with him learning it down the road, but not like this all of a sudden. They already attained SSB off-screen and that was bullshit, so if there are new techniques to be acquired, I want to see how they got them.

Spoiler

I would be fine with anime Goku knowing it since we saw him see the technique and nearly got the business end in Episode 77.

I have no problem with them getting Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan off-scene. It's really no different than Super Saiyan 3, except it bit more explanation.

 

[Fulminator]

Idk guys I still think my boogie back title is pretty good

 

[Skeeter49]

Idk guys I still think my boogie back title is pretty good

+20 and it's topical.

 

[HeroR]

His anime version will never be topped.

I personally found wallpaper Merged Zamasu funny instead of scary. The manga, it looks like Black's clone technique that everyone called BS on in Episode 64.

 

[B-Dubs]

Spoiler

I would be fine with anime Goku knowing it since we saw him see the technique and nearly got the business end in Episode 77.

I have no problem with them getting Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan off-scene. It's really no different than Super Saiyan 3, except it bit more explanation.

Spoiler

I mean we saw them reach the point where they could attain it themselves, though they didn't actually transform all the way, during RoF.

 

[Mister Wolf]

|OT7| (Don't) Read the Manga

Bravo.

 

[HardRojo]

Idk guys I still think my boogie back title is pretty good

|OT7| Bring Buugie Back.

 

[Ashodin]

|OT7| (Don't) Read the Manga

Absofuckinglutely this