Interfectum
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You win the gold medal in mental gymnastics.
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Dragon Quest Heroes II Is Downgraded On Nintendo Switch Compared To PS4 Version
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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You win the gold medal in mental gymnastics.
Lux R7
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Or they just ported the Vita version.
YuriLowell
Member
I mean would a FE:Fates port really be indicative of dev moving over to the Switch?
Yes
This is not the game we can use as an example of what the Switch can run and support verses the PS4.
Toadthemushroom
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When we get direct feed screenshots of like-for-like scenes I will be interested in seeing what all the differences are.
Chances are KT didn't bother creating a bespoke version of the game for Switch that might sit in between PS3 and PS4, or be better than PS3 in some areas but worse in others, but they really did instead just take the Vita versions - whose file sizes are already adequate for a game card and models already scaled down - and did a quick and dirty port on it.
But it'll be hard to know for sure before we know about things like image quality, poly-count on characters and shadow map resolution as well as draw distance, LOD pop-in and so on. With heroes 1 at least we know that it looks like-for-like for PS3, but it's missing self-shadowing. Were the compromises on the Vita version that low?
The whole situation seems strange for sure.
Chances are KT didn't bother creating a bespoke version of the game for Switch that might sit in between PS3 and PS4, or be better than PS3 in some areas but worse in others, but they really did instead just take the Vita versions - whose file sizes are already adequate for a game card and models already scaled down - and did a quick and dirty port on it.
But it'll be hard to know for sure before we know about things like image quality, poly-count on characters and shadow map resolution as well as draw distance, LOD pop-in and so on. With heroes 1 at least we know that it looks like-for-like for PS3, but it's missing self-shadowing. Were the compromises on the Vita version that low?
The whole situation seems strange for sure.
Everything points towards it, they unified their R&D departments and created a tablet-based console specifically to merge their software library into one. The only reason we aren't getting portable-style game announcements at this stage is because they still want to sell through as many 3DSes as possible. Pokemon only just came out. For as long as possible they will pretend that the 3DS has a future same way they did when the GBA was being phased out.
Sora the Cat
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Are we completely ignoring the new game from Bravely Default devs (project octopath) and the new SMT from Altus then? Ok.
Jaded Alyx
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YuriLowell
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I mean it could just be a small team doing the port to see how it sells.
If the next big game is on the switch, that's when we know this thing is meant to replace the 3DS.
Toadthemushroom
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I believe the post you replied to is referring to Nintendo's internal teams, which I'm inclined to agree with at this point. I'll give it until E3, but right now Switch's game lineup does feel mostly made by teams who finished work on Wii U software, with the exception of Arms, which is by the Mario Kart team. But I'm surprised at the lack of handheld-style games, and I'm surprised that Nintendo isn't even considering cross-gen for the late ones on 3DS like BoxBoy 3.
I mean something built into the OS and being able to compare with friends via the system, not having to browse a website or an app to see accomplishments. I'm still buying a Switch but 3rd party is staying on my PS4 Pro.
The only exception is Puyo Puyo Tetris since the PS4 version is physical only.
It has, and it's slated for release in April. Which is why this compilation will either be split for a western release, release a lot later than the Japanese version despite there being little work to do, or not release at all. Everything else would surprise me.
I imagine at some point they will just stop supporting it. If the install base is not there and the first few games out ot the gate don't sell, not worth spending time and resources on it.
pixellated_man
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Fair enough.
As someone who will buy the switch mainly for playing on the tv, the gulf in power between it and ps4 will mean I will always buy multis on ps4 unless it's a undemanding (graphically) jrpg.
Jaded Alyx
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Just like we did for every Xbox One title that didn't look quite as good as the PS4 version.
Duxxy3
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How many examples will people need? Games released on the Switch and PS4 are always going to look and run better on the PS4. Across the board. No exceptions.
You will take fifa then
BluePikmin11
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The graphics are slightly worse compared to the PS4, but in return, the portability factor is there.
It's a good exchange IMO.
It's a good exchange IMO.
I think he says this because the port isn't from a PS4 version but more PS3/PSV and is looking more for a game that is only on PS4/X1/NS.
Jaded Alyx
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I've said it before, but it will be Steep. No last gen versions to port across there.
Objection! Street Fighter 2.=P
I think people tend to get hung up on individual examples early in a platform's life to solidify their opinions. Similar to how people assumed all PS2 games would be jaggy forever when they saw the heavy aliasing in launch titles. I think Switch ports from 360/PS3/Vita versions (2 gens ago now?) won't be showcase software, even if it's the support it's getting for whatever reason.
That being said, I'm not aware of an area the Switch has a technical advantage over its previous-gen counterparts. Meaning it will always be at a disadvantage. But that means harping on it will get tiresome quickly unless it's an egregious case. It's using mobile hardware, which isn't as capable as set-top hardware. Full stop.
Astral Dog
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Switch less powerful than PS4?
Yes. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think there has been anyone in any way credible ever suggesting otherwise. The real question is how much less powerful. And as some other people have pointed out, I don't think a quick launch day port by Square-Enix is a good indication of that.
Astral Dog
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Whó knows though,seems like the difference is much bigger than expected despite the newest saying Nintendo used the (reasonable) best tech available
And as a consumer I would love if this happened. That would up the value proposition of Switch through the roof.
They are using the best tech available.
I don't understand why its hard to conceptually grasp the difference between an up-port and a bespoke new version for a specific hardware.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Yeah that jumped out at me when I saw the screens.
And this is why Switch will fail just like the Wii U did. Nobody wants multiplatform games on it when they see how they look.
I'm interested in a bunch of games, actually. And hey, Skyrim was a bestseller on PS3.
I actually did not buy skyrim for PS4 because I want to play it on the go...
boiled goose
good with gravy
I see the console wars have been revived. Lol.
High-end PC's play multiplats with bigger difference in terms of look to consoles than Switch-PS4. Yet consoles sell well. Why? Different devices for different uses.
I wouldn't underestimate the appeal of portability.
Stairouais
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Testing the demo on switch.
The framerate is reeeeeeeally bad.
It's rarely over 20 fps. Shitport.
The framerate is reeeeeeeally bad.
It's rarely over 20 fps. Shitport.
b00_thegh0st
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Ouch. That makes me really sad.
isaacnukem
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It's a demo, things might change.
Mufausa The 3rd
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Yeah the 30FPS made me want to stay away from the Switch version.
It's a launch game... So that's unlikely.
If they downgrade the visuals more, sure.