MotorbreathX
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Dual Shock 4 lightbar can't be turned off
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Yep. Like thread police.
mullet2000
Member
So...why are people defending this anyway?
It's objectively bad not to give an option to turn it off. It will be an issue for some people. How many is yet to be seen but some people will be affected by or annoyed by this light. There's no reason not to give to option to turn it off.
Look guys. I know PS4 hype is on a super high high right now, but if a feature is bad then a feature is bad. The only reason I could see to defend this is crazy levels of brand loyalty to Sony. Criticizing features only ends up making that thing that you are criticizing better. You don't have to defend it just because it's a PS4 feature.
This will cause reflection problems for at least a small number of people. It will likely annoy some people's peripheral vision. Someone shouldn't have to duct tape their controller to fix something like this, it should be an option built in to the OS.
You're right, it will eventually be added. Which makes having no option now even more pointless. I shouldn't have to wait a year or more for it to finally be patched in with a firmware update. It should be a feature as soon as I plug in my PS4 this November.
It's objectively bad not to give an option to turn it off. It will be an issue for some people. How many is yet to be seen but some people will be affected by or annoyed by this light. There's no reason not to give to option to turn it off.
Look guys. I know PS4 hype is on a super high high right now, but if a feature is bad then a feature is bad. The only reason I could see to defend this is crazy levels of brand loyalty to Sony. Criticizing features only ends up making that thing that you are criticizing better. You don't have to defend it just because it's a PS4 feature.
This will cause reflection problems for at least a small number of people. It will likely annoy some people's peripheral vision. Someone shouldn't have to duct tape their controller to fix something like this, it should be an option built in to the OS.
You're right, it will eventually be added. Which makes having no option now even more pointless. I shouldn't have to wait a year or more for it to finally be patched in with a firmware update. It should be a feature as soon as I plug in my PS4 this November.
Bluekaveli
Member
Look on the bright side, at least it isn't a fleshlight.
But I see no problem with the light, I'll find a way to make jokes about it.
family_guy
Member
No ones asking for it to be removed. Just the option to disable it.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
watch madcatz and nyko charge $4 for two inches of black opaque plastic.
family_guy
Member
Maybe but why annoy your customer who gave you money? I bought the move bundle and the move light was kind of annoying, but the most annoying thing was that blue light coming from the PS Eye. Sony needs to talk to their consumers and focus test products before releasing some of these things.
Crazymoogle
Member
Realistically,
A. We have no idea about the SDK: can brightness be adjusted per game? Or by the OS? If its game controlled then ideally the game dev will use it appropriately, including off if needed.
B. We have no idea is its actually intrusively bright or about the same as DS3/360. Would be a great question for any press with one at the moment.
C. It's currently being used as the controller number indicator
Asking for OS level max brightness controls is a great idea. Asking to turn it off entirely is probably unrealistic - at best maybe an "off-during-game" function?
Its the same brightess as the PS Move. We have videos of it being reflected off White items in a fully lighted room. So we do know it will be bright, and in full darkness it will probably reflect off the walls.
The light will also be used to show stuff to the user, like in a RPG if you get poisoned, maybe the light will turn green or whatever. So it will be visible, its the point.
Not everyone installs spotlights behind them in their living room.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
On that note how integral can the lightbar be when there will still be third party controllers without it?
I don't buy the justification that it has to be on at all times. Personally it doesn't bother me much but there is really no reason to not have an option to turn it off or at least make the bright as insignificant as possible.
RedAssedApe
Banned
So you guys starting #nops4lightbar ?
Doesn't adam boynes post on GAF? Why doesn't someone ping him or tweet Yoshida?
Doesn't adam boynes post on GAF? Why doesn't someone ping him or tweet Yoshida?
It's the nature of message boards where posts are displayed chronologically. If this were like Reddit, where each talking point had its own thread and good posts floated to the top, there would be so much less redundant bullcrap.
I too am tired of the drive-by threadcrapping on GAF.
boredandlazy
Member
I can see why it may annoy some people a little, and there should be a way to turn down the brightness etc. But people cancelling preorders because of this? Really?
Femmeworth
Banned
They have to save something for the nth firmware update.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
are you quite serious? it's not even out yet. wow.
and glad to know that you have insider info on how long it's going to take for sony to implement the option.
EDIT: as far as Yoshida's comment is concerned; for all we know, he thought the person that asked was referring to a button of some sort on the controller. there could be a firmware option already in place but he didn't understand the question. OR.... OOOOOOORRR the OS isn't even in beta (or even alpha) stage yet, so the option has yet to be created. (highly likely he case. there's no way the OS is complete yet.)
Agreed, especially since it's utility is suspect anyways (when it's not used with the PS4 Eye). It's not a big deal to me at all, but it should be an option for sure.
You should, having only one light (your TV for example) in the room may cause eyestrain. The more light sources, the better (even if they are very dim).
Ironically both the post you quoted and your own were great examples of thread crapping (my post too to be fair).
Seeing as how this light has no real functionality without the camera, I can't imagine they won't add an option to turn it off. With games being able to change the color of the LED there must also be a way to control it to the point that it isn't even on. I imagine with this becoming a concern they will find a way to turn it off via the OS that will be part of the day one patch.
But the flashing bright TV won't bother her, and a soft led glow will.
We've reached the bottom of looking for ways to drag the ps4 down now.
Yeah, the real problem here is the blue glare on the screen. That would've ruined The Last of Us and it'll be crazy distracting in any game that has dark areas, night scenes, etc. They need to fix that, lest we resort to duct-taping our controllers. Terrible design choice on Sony's part.
What is the point of your ambient light to show off your awesome mess of tangled cords?
it could be romantic.
Whether I do anything about it will depend on whether or not it presents a problem when I actually use it with my particular TV.
I'm also not 100% convinced that they won't change this before launch, or soon thereafter. The LED is under software control, and I assume that includes an "off" mode as well as different colors (we know it can flash). It seems like it would be a simple matter to include an option in Settings to turn the LED off after a certain amount of time.. twenty seconds or so from system-on (plenty enough time to sort out which controller's which, but not enough time to actually start playing).
Unless the camera is being used, of course, at which point it will have to be always-on, but that's life.
I'm also not 100% convinced that they won't change this before launch, or soon thereafter. The LED is under software control, and I assume that includes an "off" mode as well as different colors (we know it can flash). It seems like it would be a simple matter to include an option in Settings to turn the LED off after a certain amount of time.. twenty seconds or so from system-on (plenty enough time to sort out which controller's which, but not enough time to actually start playing).
Unless the camera is being used, of course, at which point it will have to be always-on, but that's life.
Shit, that's pretty damning.
And that aint exactly a dark room
reptilescorpio
Member
I'm fucking outraged. Duct tape isn't cheap and this might be an issue with a few games now and then possibly maybe.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
It's got to be simple for them to add an option. Seems silly to not do so.
I've got a great idea.
Add an option in the OS Settings where if a PS Eye is detected, the light automatically comes on for ease of use. But also allow an option to FORCE IT OFF if the PS Eye is connected.
Crazy, right? lol
Yeah, for real. Sony's doing things pretty well with the PS4, but let's not give them a pass on a pointless feature for most users that could very well be a nuisance. You should minimize user annoyances when using your product. Nothing silly about that. If they put an eye in very box, then maybe there would be a way to justify it, but not now. There could very well be more people bothered by it than the number that buy the camera.
ProfessorMoran
Member
This.
Black Republican
Member
pretty dumb design choice but really gaf, this many pages?
Pop
Member
I can't believe some of you feel as though this will distract or impact your gaming time. You guys must point the controller directly at the screen when playing. Shouldn't your tv/monitor be at eye level not stomach level. I'm sure you don't hold the controller up at your neck when playing.
These guys are holding the controller casually. The blue reflection still shows up in the top of the screen. If they rested the controller on their crotch, the blue light would simply appear on the bottom of the screen.
Either way, it's terribly distracting. I trust Sony will fix this terrible design flaw.
MotorbreathX
Member
These guys are holding the controller casually. The blue reflection still shows up in the top of the screen. If they rested the controller on their crotch, the blue light would simply appear on the bottom of the screen.
Either way, it's terribly distracting. I trust Sony will fix this terrible design flaw.
I may be wrong but isn't that a camera game? If it is, seeing the light on the screen is on purpose.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Here's the video itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo
It's a reflection, not a camera effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo
It's a reflection, not a camera effect.
You are wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo
Look at this around the 3:40 mark, and you can see the view from the camera of the lightbar, and the actual reflection of the lightbar in a different position on the screen.
Crazymoogle
Member
There were some other valid photos; this one is just a laugh because the guy is holding his hand between the light and the TV