The weird thing about this to me (maybe it isn't really all that weird for technical reasons I'm ignorant of) but the mixes for his movies sound just fine on a home theater set up.
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Dunkirk |OT| You can practically see it from here...home.
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The weird thing about this to me (maybe it isn't really all that weird for technical reasons I'm ignorant of) but the mixes for his movies sound just fine on a home theater set up.
Fancy Clown
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Napoleonthechimp
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Didn't enjoy it much. Visually it was great, but structurally speaking splitting it into 3 as he did was an odd move and don't think it really needed that.
I would have preferred to have gone more in depth into some of the characters to be honest.
I would have preferred to have gone more in depth into some of the characters to be honest.
The only IMAX movie I've seen where people were covering their ears. It was incredible. The movie is definitely a great IMAX experience, I feel like I got my money's worth.
-Pyromaniac-
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I thought this movie was amazing. It was both not very Nolan and also the most Nolan movie ever if that makes sense. The visuals were crazy, the way the story was told was great.
Also (spoilers) all I could think of when
Also (spoilers) all I could think of when
Tom Hardy decided to go down with the fighter was "They expect one of us in the wreckage brother".
I'll try to catch this next week, since it's when it opens here. Thankfully I don't have to worry about spoilers with this movie. 
Hardy redoing all of his lines in TDKR will never not be the funniest thing. For the worst. Too bad they couldn't just clear up the original recording, or didn't want to. His final Bane is often laughable. Why the hell is he talking that way, randomly altering the pitch of his voice.
Hardy redoing all of his lines in TDKR will never not be the funniest thing. For the worst. Too bad they couldn't just clear up the original recording, or didn't want to. His final Bane is often laughable. Why the hell is he talking that way, randomly altering the pitch of his voice.
Just saw this in Imax, and I left the film completely shaken. Ever since that first gunshot, I was as taut as a bowstring. Incredible stuff.
I've read some of the criticisms in this thread, and I think people criticising character development are not necessarily wrong, but kind of missing the point. You don't want the characters to survive as much as you want to survive the film. Nearly every single set piece is experienced from within the carnage. When the ship is hit by a torpedo, we are drowning inside the darkness of the ship. When the Spitfires are attacked, we are in the cockpit. The enemy are never depicted on screen except as gunshots, bombs and planes, the only interaction the real soldiers would have had with them.
I've read some of the criticisms in this thread, and I think people criticising character development are not necessarily wrong, but kind of missing the point. You don't want the characters to survive as much as you want to survive the film. Nearly every single set piece is experienced from within the carnage. When the ship is hit by a torpedo, we are drowning inside the darkness of the ship. When the Spitfires are attacked, we are in the cockpit. The enemy are never depicted on screen except as gunshots, bombs and planes, the only interaction the real soldiers would have had with them.
PeskyToaster
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Now that was a movie. I love so many of the choices in this movie.
Primethius
Banned
Saw this last night and man, what an intense movie this was. Fantastic experience.
Had trouble understanding some of the dialogue but luckily, didn't really hamper much if any enjoyment since almost everything was conveyed pretty well through the visuals. Most of the dialogue felt superflous as well, with the key moments being clearly audible, so I don't hold the sound mixing against this particular Nolan film.
It's different than past Nolan films for sure but I think this one plays heavily into his strengths and thus is his best film (besting out Memento and TDK for me).
Had trouble understanding some of the dialogue but luckily, didn't really hamper much if any enjoyment since almost everything was conveyed pretty well through the visuals. Most of the dialogue felt superflous as well, with the key moments being clearly audible, so I don't hold the sound mixing against this particular Nolan film.
It's different than past Nolan films for sure but I think this one plays heavily into his strengths and thus is his best film (besting out Memento and TDK for me).
HighResTomato
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Went to see it yesterday, was disappointed. Maybe I expected something else.
Yeah some of the gun shots weren't too far off from how loud they are
Inferno313
Banned
That's called ADR and literally every movie does it.
Wag
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Earplugs don't work that way. They just lower the level of the sound, they don't block it.
toastyToast
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Felt like something was missing but it was good. I expected a much more devastating onslaught from the Germans
I know? He re-did his ADR.
PeskyToaster
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every gunshot was impactful. It was excellent.
Excellent write-up. You should consider a career in film criticism if you haven't already.
I'll try to catch this next week, since it's when it opens here. Thankfully I don't have to worry about spoilers with this movie.
Hardy redoing all of his lines in TDKR will never not be the funniest thing. For the worst. Too bad they couldn't just clear up the original recording, or didn't want to. His final Bane is often laughable. Why the hell is he talking that way, randomly altering the pitch of his voice.
It's really not THAT much worse. Mr Hyperbole lol
Haha honestly you might. It depends on the venue. I saw the film in a very large IMAX theater and the sound was VERY loud but not as loud as some other movies I saw in IMAX this year of Dolby Atmos for that matter. Has anyone here seen the movie in Atmos? I find Atmos sound to be better quality than IMAX.
True Savior
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A sumptuous experience, a lavish style of filmmaking interweaving three different timelines in a crescendo moment of tension. The camera is rigid, the pans are slow, the shot lingers and the imax imagery awes the audience over the colossal landscape. The contrast is the characters. The camera is intimate , adjacent to the characters, to their small observations and movements, while their engulfed by a situation that is totally out of their control. It's extremely refined but never flashy. It's much more Sorcerer (or Wages of Fear) than Gravity.
Nolan keeps cementing himself as one of the most virtuoso filmmakers, Dunkirk being as much of a visual experience as another terrific example of his ability (as a writer) to play within film-structure to emphasize the correlation between events.
If Inceptions hallway sequence or the docking scene from Interstellar showed in the past he had a knack for innovative action spectacle, the Spitfires sequences of this are most certainly of one his most accomplished moments, setting a high bar for aerial sequences.
A damn fine movie.
Nolan keeps cementing himself as one of the most virtuoso filmmakers, Dunkirk being as much of a visual experience as another terrific example of his ability (as a writer) to play within film-structure to emphasize the correlation between events.
If Inceptions hallway sequence or the docking scene from Interstellar showed in the past he had a knack for innovative action spectacle, the Spitfires sequences of this are most certainly of one his most accomplished moments, setting a high bar for aerial sequences.
A damn fine movie.
Atraveller
Banned
I don't see the lack of a main protagonist as a problem. Nolan created a unrelenting, cruel atmosphere, with the Nazis literally being faceless, merciless war machines. And the Allied soldiers are just small, insignificant cogs, thrown around in this mess, with just barely enough will and luck to survive. It made the pressing Germans feel like an unstoppable natural calamity.
jamieson87
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I feel like that's exactly what the film was set out to be.
Was kind of meh most of the way through this but the ending fifth was bloody good. Emotional.
Thought it didn't ratchet up the tension as much as I expected and a lot of it felt underwhelming. Also I'm saddened at the lack of scale. We get told 400,000 men on the beaches, all I saw was maybe a few hundred at best in a few scant lines.. Also expected the scene at the end to show more boats, again the scale was kind of lacking. Saving Private Ryan's landing on Normandy felt more believable and I'm guessing that real-life incident didn't involve that many?
Hey I liked it. A watch once kind of film and I loved the different time scales and going forwards and back, kept it interesting. Just missing that scale that would have made it feel like a real thing and not a movie.
Thought it didn't ratchet up the tension as much as I expected and a lot of it felt underwhelming. Also I'm saddened at the lack of scale. We get told 400,000 men on the beaches, all I saw was maybe a few hundred at best in a few scant lines.. Also expected the scene at the end to show more boats, again the scale was kind of lacking. Saving Private Ryan's landing on Normandy felt more believable and I'm guessing that real-life incident didn't involve that many?
Hey I liked it. A watch once kind of film and I loved the different time scales and going forwards and back, kept it interesting. Just missing that scale that would have made it feel like a real thing and not a movie.
I didn't get that feeling at all. The soldiers were evacuating a ghost town and harrassed by only a handful of soldiers, planes and subs. He did a horrible job of showing the coming behemoth of the German army and the French who were struggling to hold them back.
Going in with the right expectations made a difference. I knew what was coming based on the early reactions. Not in the upper echelon of Nolan films, but enjoyable none the less.
My one prevailing thought is the sound design is incredible. The planes and bullets flying by instill a real sense of dread and tension.
My one prevailing thought is the sound design is incredible. The planes and bullets flying by instill a real sense of dread and tension.
Fancy Clown
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Thanks man, I appreciate it. I'd love to but I haven't found anyone foolish enough to pay me for what I write yet.
TheGameshark
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Just saw it this morning. It didn't catch on in the first hour for me but the last half or so of the film made me absolutely love it. The sound design is incredible and the visuals are just stunning. Felt the impact of every bullet. The air combat scenes were definitely absolute perfection. Tom Hardy's character stole the show for me in the end.
I'm finding this very amusing. Not to pick on you but just because from the first teaser to the final trailer that's obviously what the film was going to be: an near cinema vertie experience of being at Dunkirk.
While of course that can have a plot in many cases it actually detracts from films of combat experiences because in real life there is no plot. The beach assault in SPR works so well because it's just the assault without plot or characters with arcs. Most criticism of the film comes when that comes to the fore. Black Hawk Down works as well as it does by also stripping plot/character down.
Ultimately I guess people should realise that's the kind of film Dunkirk is: it's about the experience and conveying that sense of desperation in face of imminent death from foes you won't even see.
This short interview with a Dunkirk veteran I think oddly sums up what I feel Nolan was going for.
Http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-devon-40575883/veteran-recalls-horror-of-dunkirk
Have you tried local papers and the like? I'd agree the write up was very good and I have friend in UK who got into reviewing via small local paper initially?
You probably have... but if you can write nice, clear analysis like that you should keep trying.
Bro...
smileyforall220
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Great visuals, good audio, okay film. The problem was that the film felt like it was ramping up the entire time towards some sort of finale, and instead it just......ends. No satisfying or visceral end. A lot of the shots in the film were also wide establishing shots that just felt like filler. The only character I felt anything for was the father, who coincidentally enough also had the most lines. Also historically speaking, there were 400,000 something troops there in real life. In the film it looks like maybe 200-300 with about 7 boats to pick them up. For a war film I didn't really feel like they were in much danger, and everyone gets off safe and sound in a very sterile way.
Probably mandate from filmmakers if it isnt true IMAX. Id complain to the theater.
RPX or substitutes maybe?
I've emailed them. Even the Dunkirk posters inside the cinema have IMAX plastered all over them.
Latvian Hitman
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That's strange. I also drew some parallels to Fury Road, but more in the differences between them. I feel like strong characterization throughout was what separated Fury Road from Dunkirk for me.
I still really enjoyed Dunkirk, and will see it again in the home theater when able, but I didn't really feel like I was given a chance to connect with any of the characters beyond experiencing the predicaments they were in.