Lys Skygge
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Most cameras can. The IMAX camera did have the right gear, it's just that the housing malfunctioned and filled with water. In the same situation, a digital camera would been destroyed along with the footage.
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Dunkirk |OT| You can practically see it from here...home.
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ffejeromdiks
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Uh, no shit, you think the guy using a million dollar Imax camera doesn't know basic filmmaking tech?
Jack Scofield
Member
Hmm. I just remember the bombs being dropped. Guess I just have a bad memory.
Gunslinger
Member
Saw it today it's no saving Private Ryan but really good war picture. But damn IMAX was loud. 8/10.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Watched it last night. Really loved it however there is no IMAX nearby. But after seeing it I'd happily drive an hour to my nearest City to watch it again in IMAX.
I really liked the dogfighting. Wasn't over the top but realistic. The sound and music design was what really got me on the edge of my seat the entire time though. Great movie.
I really liked the dogfighting. Wasn't over the top but realistic. The sound and music design was what really got me on the edge of my seat the entire time though. Great movie.
darkwing-buck
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The scene with
was god-like.
Tom Hardy's plane gliding the coast to land
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
just saw it
really liked it :>
gorgeous and well stitched together * ___ *
all the characters are so well acted and i was with tom hardy every step of the way * ___ *
really liked it :>
gorgeous and well stitched together * ___ *
all the characters are so well acted and i was with tom hardy every step of the way * ___ *
lastplayed
Member
Just saw it again. Wasn't as suspensful this time but still a thrilling ride. Also for some reason in my first viewing I didn't pick up on Harry Styles (think it was him) getting all worried about the country hating him only to find the welcoming cheers at the station.
Was actually the second bombing run on the mole where one of the Stukas fired its guns, right after that infamous shot of the smiling extra.
Was actually the second bombing run on the mole where one of the Stukas fired its guns, right after that infamous shot of the smiling extra.
So I saw this a second time last night and I've been trying to pinpoint what I felt was missing in this movie and I think the movie fails in two ways:
1. If I understand correctly there were 400,000 men on the beach right? Ok if that is the case then why is it that we only ever see like 3 boats leave the mole? Did they evacuate 400,000 men? Certainly all this men were not transported by the civilian boats that showed up.
2. The movie does not adequately you convey how desperate and dire their situation was. Like this movie is basically a race against time right? The enemy is moving in and getting closer every day but we don't really get a sense of how close they are and how much time the Brits have left before they are basically dead. What forces are holding the enemy back? Certainly not the 4 soldiers behind sandbags in the side street at the beginning. I think some of this information was discussed by the British officers thru dialog but SHOW ME don't tell me.
1. If I understand correctly there were 400,000 men on the beach right? Ok if that is the case then why is it that we only ever see like 3 boats leave the mole? Did they evacuate 400,000 men? Certainly all this men were not transported by the civilian boats that showed up.
2. The movie does not adequately you convey how desperate and dire their situation was. Like this movie is basically a race against time right? The enemy is moving in and getting closer every day but we don't really get a sense of how close they are and how much time the Brits have left before they are basically dead. What forces are holding the enemy back? Certainly not the 4 soldiers behind sandbags in the side street at the beginning. I think some of this information was discussed by the British officers thru dialog but SHOW ME don't tell me.
Got teary eyed. The piece that accompanies it was also pushing the tears. I can't recall the name of the piece, but it was used in the London 2012 Olympics.
Can't really put it into words, but Dunkirk feels like the antipode to SPR. SPR focuses on a single group of soldiers, is very graphic, and character trumps plot. Dunkirk focuses on different individuals, is very subtle in showing violence and almost all the character progression is limited to the storied events.
TheExhaustedWalrus
Member
Alright guys, I think today's the day I see this in 70mm IMAX. Driving an hour but compared to others' treks it's tiny. Never seen a proper IMAX film so I am ready.
Captain Skeleton
Member
Much like the soldiers on that beach.
MrPink93485
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Movie doesn't do a great job explaining but 400000 people were evacuated over a course of 7 days per the actual events. Presumably several were evacuated by destroyers or what not but the leads didn't get close to those between the torpedo and when they tried getting off by the small ship
This is my only issue with this film.
400k soldiers saved by 15 civilian ships and two destroyers? I found it pretty hard to believe.
Enjoyed the movie very much, it was a spectacle and a great Nolan film.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is turning out to be my biggest gripe with the film. I know Nolan doesnt like to do CGi, but there were 900 civilian ships sent to the Beach. How hard is it to draw 900 CGi boats? Game of Thrones had more. Troy showed thousands 14 years ago. Add some more CGi soldiers on the beach.
The 4 minute tracking shot of Dunkirk in Attonement did a better job capturing the scale of the beach than this 2 hour movie. it felt like a low budget movie when compared to that scene in Dunkirk. Why is that beach empty?
Why? Because of the cinematography? I am legitimately trying to understand. This is how the interstellar haters must feel like when they talk to me because all the things people like about the movie just go right over my head. It's an ok shot. I have seen better. the final soundtrack is ok, nothing compared to the tracks that play during the ending of Inception, TDKR and Inception.
ronaldthump
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Just got back 6.5/10
It was plodding slow and percussionist which is all fine but the movie didn't really have much impact to me - non of the scenes made me sit up like the opening of Saving Private Ryan did. It sort of rang a bit hollow.
The
from different POVs didnt add to much to the movie for me. And it was hard to tell who is who - when the
I couldn't even tell who it was.
sort of dull. no really an impactful war movie. I wished I'd liked it more. A lot of times I was like "get on with it already".
That's 2 back to back Nolan films I didn't love. I really loathed interstellar
It was plodding slow and percussionist which is all fine but the movie didn't really have much impact to me - non of the scenes made me sit up like the opening of Saving Private Ryan did. It sort of rang a bit hollow.
The
time cuts and the repetition of sequences
french guy drowned
sort of dull. no really an impactful war movie. I wished I'd liked it more. A lot of times I was like "get on with it already".
That's 2 back to back Nolan films I didn't love. I really loathed interstellar
Warm Machine
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The movie almost tries to make the audience feel stupid for asking the question in the first place. If the director didn't bother to bring it up you should already know, is the take away I'm getting from it. The film is so shoddy in its visual story telling, and really, given that there aren't any characters or even dialogue worth holding onto it is all it has left inside it. I'd argue the whole film is an editorial mess and the time jumps are barely motivated. It gives you no window at all into how the evacuation took place or how it was achieved. Am I to believe the men on the dock stood there for a week? There was a single hour of air support that entire time?
I don't get the whole plane landing scene as anything great or amazing either but it did have the single most tense moment with having to have the wheels come down. Other than that it's a shot of a plane landing.
The more I think about the movie the more it falls apart.
Vincent Alexander
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One of my nitpicks about an all around good film...I didn't like the timing of the soldier on the train at the end being afraid everyone would think they are cowards and hate them, because just a minute later they reveal that isn't the case. I wish they would have introduced the idea much earlier in the film so it had time to sink in and root itself, then I might have felt a bit more emotion at the the guy handing them a beer. The turn would have pulled at my heart perhaps.
I saw it just as a slice of the full evacuation. It just covered the soldiers, the boats, and the planes that all happened to share that same overlapping event but throughout the course of that week there were other soldiers, boats, and planes who all had similar experiences.
Sevenfold
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Went to see it at the Printworks in Manchester. First IMAX experience.. I work with giant outdoor screens everyday but crikey that's a big screen. Booked early and got pick of the house. Chose H20 dead center about 5 rows from the back and one of the VIP seats. Looking straight ahead my eye level was about a third of the way up the screen and about halfway with my head on the rest. The room filled but those front three rows? Empty. You'd have to be mad to see it from there.
It was glorious to watch. Some of the air stuff especially really showing off the scale. The size does faster panning shots no favours though with objects lurching feet across the screen. Something that has always bugged me and sledgehammer subtlety on an enormous screen. It's a given though and when the camera slowed down the amount of attention the scenes got had me searching the screen for details. Sublime.
The loud thread had me worried going in and it was certainly brutal. Those first
set the tone and possibly the
was at the limits of comfort but worth it for the Spitfire audio. Incredible. The sound stage (in the seat I was in at least) was perfect. Quite a unique experience.
Second time at the cinema alone. First was Moon which I loved but couldn't beg anyone to watch lol and this time there were a god scattering of (male) solo watchers, a few couples and more elderly than I expected. Must have been very loud for them yikes.
It was glorious to watch. Some of the air stuff especially really showing off the scale. The size does faster panning shots no favours though with objects lurching feet across the screen. Something that has always bugged me and sledgehammer subtlety on an enormous screen. It's a given though and when the camera slowed down the amount of attention the scenes got had me searching the screen for details. Sublime.
The loud thread had me worried going in and it was certainly brutal. Those first
shots in the street
the target practice
Second time at the cinema alone. First was Moon which I loved but couldn't beg anyone to watch lol and this time there were a god scattering of (male) solo watchers, a few couples and more elderly than I expected. Must have been very loud for them yikes.
I would have thought it was perfect for them going by the volume my gran used to have the telly at.
Found his movie to be okay after reflecting on it for a few days, but I didn't love it.
one of the biggest problems for me was scale; maybe I was missing something, but it seemed like there were maybe 20 civilian boats and about 200 men on the beach in those scenes.
And yes, lack of emotional investment which was a bit weird but that's been covered extensively already.
The time construct stuff was masterfully done with interweaving plots, but it didn't seem to portray onscreen what they kept referring to.
one of the biggest problems for me was scale; maybe I was missing something, but it seemed like there were maybe 20 civilian boats and about 200 men on the beach in those scenes.
And yes, lack of emotional investment which was a bit weird but that's been covered extensively already.
The time construct stuff was masterfully done with interweaving plots, but it didn't seem to portray onscreen what they kept referring to.
Albino_Yeti
Member
I knew as soon as they
got inside the boat and everything was echoing
Inferno313
Banned
IMAX 70mm is the ideal version of the film. I'd recommend googling around to see what the best IMAX in the area is.
Why?
I dont know, guys.
I'm English. My parents were in the army. My dad brought me up on Battle of Britain films. You could say I'm the target market for this movie.
I really enjoyed it. It was paced very well paced (which I've had trouble with Nolan in the past) and was pretty anxious throughout the majority of the film.
I literally cannot fathom the criticism of some of the aspects.
The volume one bothers me. Yes, it's very loud. War was very loud. I think that's what they're going for.
The confusing storyline argument seems silly. Mark Kermode makes a very good point "Nolan treats his audience as intelligent (whether you like the film or not)".
The scale complaint...seriously? They had 60 real ships in the water at certain points. There were 6000 extras.
I can completely understand people not enjoying the movie. Everyone likes what they like. But the arguments here seem a little crazy.
I'm English. My parents were in the army. My dad brought me up on Battle of Britain films. You could say I'm the target market for this movie.
I really enjoyed it. It was paced very well paced (which I've had trouble with Nolan in the past) and was pretty anxious throughout the majority of the film.
I literally cannot fathom the criticism of some of the aspects.
The volume one bothers me. Yes, it's very loud. War was very loud. I think that's what they're going for.
The confusing storyline argument seems silly. Mark Kermode makes a very good point "Nolan treats his audience as intelligent (whether you like the film or not)".
The scale complaint...seriously? They had 60 real ships in the water at certain points. There were 6000 extras.
I can completely understand people not enjoying the movie. Everyone likes what they like. But the arguments here seem a little crazy.
Supa Necta
Banned
Just saw the 70mm and enjoyed it thoroughly despite a badly scratched print( after only a few days of screenings) and some annoying patrons.
I'm in Colorado for another 4 days so I'm thinking of seeing again with my family in true IMAX.
I'm in Colorado for another 4 days so I'm thinking of seeing again with my family in true IMAX.
The small civilian boats mainly ferried soldiers from the beach to larger boats farther out in the water that couldn't actually land at the beach since it was too shallow (remember earlier in the movie, only one large boat could land at the mole at a time and they were concerned about a boat sinking there, preventing any other large boat from being able to dock).
Fair enough. I don't think the movie did a very good job of illustrating that point though
ShadowKingpin
Member
Um.....what?
It's Elgar's Nimrod. A slower paced remix. And honestly, using that particular piece felt over the top. I understand it has a very personal significance for Nolan, but another piece would have been more befitting.
I would say it has personal significance to most English people...
Of course, it's just over the top with Churchill's speech, the White Cliffs and Branagh's self-sacrificing line about staying behind for the French. It's made worse because of how the French are handled in the film too.
Again, Nolan is treating his audience as intelligent.
They specifically brought attention to the amount of battleships they had early on in the film (when the officer loses his mind when told they're not bringing any of them closer).
Disagree. I welled up.
The French are barely handled in the film. It's a British story.
The one French guy who's featured throughout is treated as a hero (he saves the boys from that one ship) and then dies as the last man in the little boat.
A very good film. Is it Nolan's best? Not in my opinion, at least based on one viewing.
Cinematography was the best aspect of the film, the colours and shots were beautiful. The beach and the aviation scenes were best part of this film.
The story and dialogue could perhaps be described as minimalistic, the characterization reminded me of 2001: A Space Odyssey, because Noland didn't want to build characters rather than show their journey.
Like many have mentioned the movie was loud, too loud in some scenes. The same issue was there with Interstellar, too. It's difficult to find justification for this, because in some places the volume was so loud it completely muddled the soundscape.
Cinematography was the best aspect of the film, the colours and shots were beautiful. The beach and the aviation scenes were best part of this film.
The story and dialogue could perhaps be described as minimalistic, the characterization reminded me of 2001: A Space Odyssey, because Noland didn't want to build characters rather than show their journey.
Like many have mentioned the movie was loud, too loud in some scenes. The same issue was there with Interstellar, too. It's difficult to find justification for this, because in some places the volume was so loud it completely muddled the soundscape.
I realise that. But there were over 100,000 French troops also evacuated.
Nimrod is an amazing piece, but it's feels like a cliche. It's over-sentimental. And it certainly doesn't help when it's an overused piece in adverts for things like Pimm's and Tea ads.
I love listening to it on its own, but generally accompanied by other media it's too much.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
$5 Tuesday IMAX. This will be my third time seeing it.
Didn't realize until after the film that Harry Styles and the main guy probably have no idea that he saved their lives
They know. They discuss it when debating having him leave the second ship
jack_package_200
Banned
Loved it. Nolan got me back on board after Rises and Interstellar were well...not stellar.
Those dogfights were incredible.
Those dogfights were incredible.
Stead Fast
Banned
Just got back from watching this, arguably my favourite film by Nolan, and, like Hans Zimmer ever needed anymore praise, this film is a cinematic masterclass in sound design, in my opinion.
I never tear up at war films, but the civilian ships coming in hit home personally since my great grandfather helped man one of them shortly before his death. I'd say that moment was a lot more of the highlight than Churchill's speech at the end, I get why they put that speech in, but by that stage the intent of fighting the Nazi's aren't what I and my family were thinking about, that was dedicated to the levels of living Hell each and every one of those guys put up with.
I never tear up at war films, but the civilian ships coming in hit home personally since my great grandfather helped man one of them shortly before his death. I'd say that moment was a lot more of the highlight than Churchill's speech at the end, I get why they put that speech in, but by that stage the intent of fighting the Nazi's aren't what I and my family were thinking about, that was dedicated to the levels of living Hell each and every one of those guys put up with.