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EA unveils new plan for Origin, includes consoles
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
I wouldn't worry guys, they didn't even finish their last plan for Origin before pretending they had never laid it out for us to see.
LumpOfCole
Member
Does this mean Battlefield 4 won't require me to log into Origin and the into Battlefield's own Battlelog service before getting into my game? Battlefield 3 is so convoluted forcing that Origin layer.
MisterC20XX
Member
My first thought as well. I might be able to live with a linked-login like EA has now but anything more than that--any paywalls or store fronts--riding on top of my next gen game accounts is out of the question.
I imagine they're looking at Titanfall with dollars signs in their eyes.
Steam never gave out 20 games for free though.
SteveWinwood
Member
All those great origin acheevs
They do in Russia!
Allow me to translate:
"It's someone who greets you at the door, and checks your credentials to make sure you're allowed into the club to begin with. Once it has verified your identity, it makes sure all your friends know all your accomplishments in the club to incentivize them to come join you. That's really how we see it."
This is why Online Passes were shut down. They're going to put an origin gatekeeper on everything now.
"It's someone who greets you at the door, and checks your credentials to make sure you're allowed into the club to begin with. Once it has verified your identity, it makes sure all your friends know all your accomplishments in the club to incentivize them to come join you. That's really how we see it."
This is why Online Passes were shut down. They're going to put an origin gatekeeper on everything now.
SteveWinwood
Member
I have a bridge to sell you.
Sportbilly
Member
Damn right it isn't.
alexandros
Banned
lol, well put!
Wait, wait, wait? Is he saying that they want to drop Origin client launching requirement for games?
If yes thats the best thing ever and it makes better client that Steam for me by a mile.
You would thought that Valve would be first to drop DRM, but its EA? Thats funny.
I really want to see people hate arguments against Origin if they drop client always on requirement.
If yes thats the best thing ever and it makes better client that Steam for me by a mile.
You would thought that Valve would be first to drop DRM, but its EA? Thats funny.
I really want to see people hate arguments against Origin if they drop client always on requirement.
alexandros
Banned
I really don't think EA can change. A recent example: even though they will be releasing a new FIFA engine, even though they operate a PC storefront, they will still use the old engine for the PC version. If I am to believe that they want to change, I need to see some proof first.
Chittagong
Gold Member
That's a pretty long read, but does it basically say that they will sell their games at Steam again, and that previous licenses transfer over there too?
They are right people don't want to have to launch their service to play a game. They are wrong in thinking people want to find others to play from 20 different services in 20 different friends list. If I want to see the latest games from EA I will go to their website. Also steam does joining friends games and community spotlights so much better then Origins I'm not sure there is a person to debate that?
Are you a single console Wii-U kinda guy by any chance?
SteveWinwood
Member
The most mixed feeling I've ever had.
i don't really see the issue here as i have had no problems with it ( on PC. ).
Yes i can perfectly understand that people only want to bother with one client and steam is number one in that regard .
But if EA wants to compete with steam or Simply wanted there own store then let them.
don't buy from them if you feel that strongly about it .
so in short : would i want EA games to be available on steam ? hell yeah.
Do i feel the need to make a big deal about the fact that there not ? not really .
I can agree that some things need changing . but i don't find it to be the horrible abomination that everyone says it is .
Yes i can perfectly understand that people only want to bother with one client and steam is number one in that regard .
But if EA wants to compete with steam or Simply wanted there own store then let them.
don't buy from them if you feel that strongly about it .
so in short : would i want EA games to be available on steam ? hell yeah.
Do i feel the need to make a big deal about the fact that there not ? not really .
I can agree that some things need changing . but i don't find it to be the horrible abomination that everyone says it is .
Vestal
Gold Member
It defeats the purpose of a Proprietary console. We have enough fragmentation as it is on the PC side when it comes to this kind of stuff, lets not make it larger.
AngelsDontBurn
Banned
It's going to infect consoles now too? Ugh.
SpinningBirdKick
Banned
It seems that EA have finally realised that they can't have a successful and growing online distribution platform if they only offer their own titles.
They're hungry for long tail sales that steam and itunes enjoy from selling content generated by others.
I'm guessing it won't be long until they start offering third party content such as film, audio and software in addition to their own titles.
As steam and itunes have discovered there's better profit margins and far less risk in taking a slice from sales of content that others have produced than producing the content yourself.
This was Microsoft's plan for the xBone and likely still is...
They're hungry for long tail sales that steam and itunes enjoy from selling content generated by others.
I'm guessing it won't be long until they start offering third party content such as film, audio and software in addition to their own titles.
As steam and itunes have discovered there's better profit margins and far less risk in taking a slice from sales of content that others have produced than producing the content yourself.
This was Microsoft's plan for the xBone and likely still is...
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm not liking the sound of this. Origin has done nothing but create a rift for some players that want to buy some EA games but have to put up with an incompetent client. EA thinks they have some pull here when they don't. Do what Ubi does and put your games on Steam and use your base app from there. This kind of stuff makes me not want to buy any more EA games. Especially on PC.
Vestal
Gold Member
I can understand their reasoning. Why put my titles on the competitors Store when I can make my own? Origin originally was really shitty but it has improved somewhat, its not on the level of steam in regards to features and what no.
They do offer 3rd party titles and quite many of them.
Nealand Liquor
Member
For the sake of the arguement let's say EA will be impilmenting a used game block on consoles, how will they use Origin to accommodate that goal?
The most obvious choice is the use of an activation key, but doing so flies right in the face of their PR statement when they announced the cancelling of the online pass/Project $10. Are there any other ways they could block secondhand games, or are they forced to create a PR nightmare and make themselves look like a joke in the process?
The most obvious choice is the use of an activation key, but doing so flies right in the face of their PR statement when they announced the cancelling of the online pass/Project $10. Are there any other ways they could block secondhand games, or are they forced to create a PR nightmare and make themselves look like a joke in the process?
rod furlong
Member
Pretty big stretch to assume that Origin is coming to consoles based on this interview. Read that quote again.
Aren't you a rebel. You surely are sending the big evil corporation a message.
I think Microsoft has that on lock for the next time.
aaaaaaaaaaaa7654
Member
Maybe instead they should think about sorting their security and stop accounts getting hacked all the time. Or even addressing the issue at all.
Gamesindustry.biz said:
See the rest of the thread for evidence...
I've got no beef with EA personally, so no strong feelings about Origin, but is it not just slightly possible that whatever they do will be a good thing?! The noises coming out of EA since the change in leadership have been fairly positive I think. Obviously the proof is in the pudding but I get the impression EA knows it has work to do on its reputation with gamers, and the above quote underlines that.
dorkimoe
Member
the only thing that "works" better is the store/community pages, its like outdated html or something. Other than that the library and friends list and all that is way better
To me Steam is like its own console /community
origin is a store
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
It is generally difficult to believe that solutions in search of problems are good things, yes. If someone can identify to me the problem that all non-EA games have and EA games do not, I will readily cede that I have been unkind to Origin.
No one can takeover Your Origin account, because You cant change email address without calling to support.
You are probably talking about FIFA account hacks.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
The purported spyware was mostly people using Process Monitor without knowing how to use it probably and creating the perception of spyware where there was one, as I understand it. Origin isn't evil, it's just useless and pointless and redundant
