Because you know more than the dev. What game are you working on?Why do people keep bringing up Resogun? It's a PSN arcade shooter, it's not like it wouldn't easily possible on Xbox One - no matter if the dev says otherwise. And yes the particle effects are amazing, but AAA title it aint.
Why do people keep bringing up Resogun? It's a PSN arcade shooter, it's not like it wouldn't easily possible on Xbox One - no matter if the dev says otherwise. And yes the particle effects are amazing, but AAA title it aint.
Especially if the Xbox's the one that's ahead.Its going to be fun to see people eat so much crow when these things finally launches and there is a difference in performance that you can clearly see.
Why do people keep bringing up Resogun? It's a PSN arcade shooter, it's not like it wouldn't easily possible on Xbox One - no matter if the dev says otherwise. And yes the particle effects are amazing, but AAA title it aint.
Killer Instinct - 720p
Ryse - 900p
Battlefied 3 - 720p
Forza 5 -1080p/60
Killzone SF - 1080p60inmulti
Driveclub - 1080p targeting60
Second Son - 1080p
Knack - 1080p
Deep Down - 1080p(???)targeting 60fps.
This is real difference between those two consoles. PS4 outputs much higher resolution + better looking games at the same time.
No amount of special souse, dGpu, bandwidth write+read combination, low latency and pure grade A bullshit can change that.
And no you can't add up write and read. Max theoretical max bandwidth for Xbone is ~160GB/s. So 270GB/s is just pure bullshit.
You quote Shifty Gazeer without even reading what he wrote. He wrote that if MS got 150GB/s that this is possible especially since it is in theoretical maximum range. Thing is we don't trust MS on those numbers and artificial test may look way different to average game usage of memory
Firstly, it uses GPGPU heavily, the xbox one would not be able to do this effectively as it would have to flush cache too often, In fact Resogun is probably the ONLY ps4 exclusive that would not be possible on xbox one. Kz:SF would be possible with a couple of little changes, but Resogun would not.
Secondly, there are no particles in Resogun. There are Voxels though, up to 500k of them which are used to build the stage itself...
Sorry not particles, but if we're going to be pedantic the engine supports up to 500k, the game itself rarely goes above 200k.
Sorry not particles, but if we're going to be pedantic the engine supports up to 500k, the game itself rarely goes above 200k.
Add to the fact that Forza 1080p/60fps looks pretty ropey.
Ropey? I have never heard that phrase before. slang on the forum is getting weird
ropey is pretty standard saying in the uk.
I agree. A perception is formed among the masses. People start saying "Xbox one is underpowered" without even having a clue as to why or how. Since E3 MS has been doing all it can to shape a narrative that is completely out of their hands at this point. It's a complete PR nightmare.
Obvious jokes aside, I think that the only people honestly clinging to there being no difference aren't ever going to be convinced. They'll always find a reason to discount the gap. When that fails, they'll say that it doesn't matter because the PS4's games all suck compared to the Xbox One's. Such is the life of a console warrior, but luckily they are few. Far better to remain neutral and buy the console that has the experiences you enjoy than to get held up on comparing your choice to one that you never intended to get anyway.
Anyone have a running tally of the September body count? Another one bites the dust.
So... what's next? CU performance scaling, Audio chip, Hidden Gpu, Secret sauce or NDA?
too many people are doing that
Why do people keep bringing up Resogun? It's a PSN arcade shooter, it's not like it wouldn't easily possible on Xbox One - no matter if the dev says otherwise. And yes the particle effects are amazing, but AAA title it aint.
Good to see the list
Pretty sure BleachAndPepsi was pro PS4 and likely banned in something unrelated
TechnicPuppet was an XB1 fanboy but never posted anything controversial in tech threads as he wasn't tech savy (his own words)
Team vernia probably got banned somewhere else to as though he was pro XB1. He was one of the few rational ones in my experiences
Honestly in the back of my mind I wonder if the price tag of the XB1 might make causals disbelieve it can possibly be weaker than the PS4
There really isn't any news I've seen that will convey that directly to causals but again I don't really think power is going to sell anything with casuals really
Price will though
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This is not just MS shills, these are all walks of life. Some of these bans happened in other threads, I'm sure. Some may have happened in GD for all we know.
PureGone
AutumnRay
Rayge
Ushae
HellsimusPrime
turk3y
dragonelite
p3tran
BleachAndPepsi
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I thought this too initially. But put yourself in their shoes. They're staring at the two on the shelf. All the multiplats are on both, and effectively the games will be the same looking. They see what's in the box. "What does Xbox One have that PS4 doesn't? Oh it has a camera. My 360 Kinect cost me $120 so that makes sense that it's $100 more."
I don't think the power of the consoles will even cross their mind. The fact that a lot of people have their motion controller periphs stashed in a closet might though.
Are they all perma banned or sin binned?
That's because it's an "indie" title and "indie" title's aren't worth shit compared to AAA games.
To think I was joking, would you ever consider Minecraft and Angry Birds AAA titles or indie?
I thought this too initially. But put yourself in their shoes. They're staring at the two on the shelf. All the multiplats are on both, and effectively the games will be the same looking. They see what's in the box. "What does Xbox One have that PS4 doesn't? Oh it has a camera. My 360 Kinect cost me $120 so that makes sense that it's $100 more."
I don't think the power of the consoles will even cross their mind. The fact that a lot of people have their motion controller periphs stashed in a closet might though.
Are they all perma banned or sin binned?
Why do people keep bringing up Resogun? It's a PSN arcade shooter, it's not like it wouldn't easily possible on Xbox One - no matter if the dev says otherwise. And yes the particle effects are amazing, but AAA title it aint.
These names are greyed in this thread.
This is not just MS shills, these are all walks of life. Some of these bans happened in other threads, I'm sure. Some may have happened in GD for all we know.
PureGone
AutumnRay
Rayge
Ushae
HellsimusPrime
turk3y
dragonelite
p3tran
BleachAndPepsi
Cesar
LittleJohnny
Jeux
GribbleGrunger
TechnicPuppet
Always Bet On Batman
Arthur Bishop
SerOnionKnight
Joeki11a
Krilekk
UnnDunn
jim2011
oVerde
Team Vernia
bonus_sco
Klocker
Flatline
moriquendi32
46w500
idrinkalone
TheKaeptain
KingFire
Juan29.zapata
FINALBOSS
randiangamer
SpinningBirdKick
Subie_Greg
Cesar
prodyg
JonnyLH
jhendrix
haZethew0rld
Krilekk
Pseudo judo
antic604
Joeki11a
Icecait
Jackel7406
Rustle Da Jimmies
JammerJammy
Timemuffin
antic604
rinemy
OldSchoolNerd
Honestly in the back of my mind I wonder if the price tag of the XB1 might make causals disbelieve it can possibly be weaker than the PS4
They aren't particle effects. That's the gag. They are voxels with physics on every block. Housemarque says their engine can handle 500k on screen without skipping a beat but took it down to 300k for gameplay since 500k blocks flying around on screen is a bit much going on to see what the hell you are doing.Why do people keep bringing up Resogun? It's a PSN arcade shooter, it's not like it wouldn't easily possible on Xbox One - no matter if the dev says otherwise. And yes the particle effects are amazing, but AAA title it aint.
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This is not just MS shills, these are all walks of life. Some of these bans happened in other threads, I'm sure. Some may have happened in GD for all we know.
NO!!! Not BleachAndPepsi!
I won't pretend to be an expert on casual gamers, but I doubt many of them care about power. They just want to know if it can play CoD or GTA or whatever. It's a yes/no question for them, and whether it's at 720p or 1080p doesn't matter that much. If I asked my brother if his TV was 1080p, he'd probably reply, "It's a flatscreen".
And the list doesn't even include folks who've been temp banned and have come back since the span of this thread, heh.
These names are greyed in this thread.
This is not just MS shills, these are all walks of life. Some of these bans happened in other threads, I'm sure. Some may have happened in GD for all we know.
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Klocker
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I think I may be one of the few people active in almost all of the next gen tech threads since rumors started that has made it through without even a temp ban :lol
I think I may be one of the few people active in almost all of the next gen tech threads since rumors started that has made it through without even a temp ban :lol
I am surprised there isn't more 'American Idol' type games, that analyze your singing and berate you Simon Cowell style, do you think games like Rock Band are dead permanently?
Hmm. Bish did not even leave a witty remark this time.
He must be too busy with playing GTAV
I think I may be one of the few people active in almost all of the next gen tech threads since rumors started that has made it through without even a temp ban :lol
And that's true. Casual gamers care about price and where their friends play. For price, that favors PS4. For where their friends play, it's going to be statistically more likely that their friends have a PS4, as there will be more on the market.
Saying that power doesn't matter doesn't make matters automatically better for Xbox One. Not that that's necessarily what you were saying. I'm just saying that I've seen that argument raised in favor of the Xbox One as if it was a foregone conclusion that everyone was still getting one.
And that's true. Casual gamers care about price and where their friends play. For price, that favors PS4. For where their friends play, it's going to be statistically more likely that their friends have a PS4, as there will be more on the market.
Saying that power doesn't matter doesn't make matters automatically better for Xbox One. Not that that's necessarily what you were saying. I'm just saying that I've seen that argument raised in favor of the Xbox One as if it was a foregone conclusion that everyone was still getting one.
These names are greyed in this thread.
This is not just MS shills, these are all walks of life. Some of these bans happened in other threads, I'm sure. Some may have happened in GD for all we know.
PureGone
AutumnRay
Rayge
Ushae
HellsimusPrime
turk3y
dragonelite
p3tran
BleachAndPepsi
Cesar
LittleJohnny
Jeux
GribbleGrunger
TechnicPuppet
Always Bet On Batman
Arthur Bishop
SerOnionKnight
Joeki11a
Krilekk
UnnDunn
jim2011
oVerde
Team Vernia
bonus_sco
Klocker
Flatline
moriquendi32
46w500
idrinkalone
TheKaeptain
KingFire
Juan29.zapata
FINALBOSS
randiangamer
SpinningBirdKick
Subie_Greg
Cesar
prodyg
JonnyLH
jhendrix
haZethew0rld
Krilekk
Pseudo judo
antic604
Joeki11a
Icecait
Jackel7406
Rustle Da Jimmies
JammerJammy
Timemuffin
antic604
rinemy
OldSchoolNerd
Power matters to casuals indirectly. The hardcore gamers are going to be the early adopters and want the powerful machine. The casual players may then see their friends with the console and hear them talking about it. This could cause them to pick up the same console. That is how the Xbox 360 gained such a lead in the US (in addition to the head start). People bought what their friends had. Based on all the reports about preorder numbers and anecdotal evidence, it seems it will swing in Sony's favor this time.
daaamn.
daaamn.
I really hope Klocker isn't perma banned, I bookmarked some of his posts waiting for November.
They aren't particle effects. That's the gag. They are voxels with physics on every block.