So you're suggesting we're going to see a lot of games running at 60fps next gen? I've seen it said a thousand times before.
Nah, I mostly meant "not under 30," though there could still be a glut of 60fps titles early on.
So you're suggesting we're going to see a lot of games running at 60fps next gen? I've seen it said a thousand times before.
What is the difference in price between 4 gigs of GDDR5 and 8 gigs of DDR3?
With such a big OS the speed will likely be felt even more so on 720 right?
I mean its not just going to remove RAM from the gaming equation.
Not sure why people are making out like these seem evenly matched or very similar infrastructures.
Well, only fools expected monster specs. We know these machines have to ship around a $400 price point.
Still, I got the feeling for the past year there were some PC folks hoping to shit all over these console specs when they were announced.
So you're suggesting we're going to see a lot of games running at 60fps next gen? I've seen it said a thousand times before.
lol
It will be a step up because people with 680s right now are still playing console ports of games that are made on 2005 consoles. Now they'll actually get to utilize those 680s and likely have to upgrade in the first year or two.
Are people ever going to stop comparing consoles to PCs or is this a forever thing.
He'll be fine, stop over hyping magical console optimization.
Strange because I get the feeling neither are going to be a step up if power is your thing and you game on a good pc already.
Strange because I get the feeling neither are going to be a step up if power is your thing and you game on a good PC already.
I think people will see what they want to see but these seem modest machines with a sensible balance of power and power usage with its associated heat for such small units.
I suspect it'll come down to software as to whether I will get either.
Can anyone speculate whether these are pretty much final specs? We won't see these paired down when they start production on commercial units will we?
Looks like it, you'll have to decide on a console using features and game exclusives.So almost the same console from 2 different brands once again?
No? even now the 360 and PS3 have plenty of exclusives to differentiate themselves.So almost the same console from 2 different brands once again?
It will be a step up because people with 680s right now are still playing console ports of games that are made on 2005 consoles. Now they'll actually get to utilize those 680s and likely have to upgrade in the first year or two.
This article hasn't really given us any new info about the specs of Durango and Orbis, so where is all the enthusiam present in this thread coming from?
I'm not a programmer, but how does bandwidth help with an APP footprint?
So almost the same console from 2 different brands once again?
I don't know man, tessellation and compute shaders can make some very impressive looking scenes. Sparse octree voxelization for real-time global illumination is something the current consoles can't do at all and that's going to be an Unreal Engine 4 feature.Depends on what you mean by "minor." There will be some diminishing returns in the sense that the most dramatic differences will be in the areas of framerate, resolution, and overall IQ. In terms of graphical bells and whistles, the improvements over DX9 and DX9-equivalent visuals on PS3/360 won't be nearly as large since there's no revolutionary change in hardware like programmable shaders.
Not reallyFor those disappointed, you guys know you can't directly compare the GPU inside the Orbis to a 7970m in PC space. There are a lot of other caveats inside the machine that offset loads, and it's a closed box platform.
It's hard to make comparisons really.
So almost the same console from 2 different brands once again?
3hb for the os, excuse me while i go puke. Ms is better get on the ball.
What about games from devs that don't have engines that run on consoles and don't release console games. Are they utilizing 680's in SLI?
Kinda fits with the rumour that the XBox will be more or less running Windows 8 in the background.
Dreamcast > Xbox
(just a guess)
Not impressed thus far. 4GB of GDDR RAM isn't going to have the longevity of more RAM and a smaller set of fast RAM (EDRAM?). I have yet to come across a developer that favored having a smaller amount of fast ram over a larger pool of slower RAM. More RAM tends to win out when it comes to most kinds of development.
Oh shit here we go boys.
Fucking MONSTER machines.
Oh shit here we go boys.
Fucking MONSTER machines.
He'll be fine, stop over hyping magical console optimization.
Devs that only dev for PC have the caveat of not being feasible to develop their game around a top of the line card and configuration.
Maybe because you are reaching conclusions based on the premise that the article is right about everything when an insider has already said otherwise?
If its true, I imagine its for multi-tasking/app switching, and possibly being able to switch between apps like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Instant like you would stations on a cable box. And would likely also give you the ability to switch between a game and an app in the same manner.3GB for the OS sounds insane. It must be have some integrated Twitch streaming or some shit.
2008 pc gpus already came with gddr5... (though it is nice that there is a whole 4GB of it!)
Ps4 is looking to be equivalent to a mid range 2011 pc, nothing monster about it.
Don't get me wrong, 7970m is a great laptop card, shame they had to gimp and underclock it though.
7970m = ~7850 desktop part.
It could have been a lot worse I suppose, still rather dissapointing to me.
Not nearly powerful enough for even crysis 2 with the dx11 patch at 60 fps.
Seems like we'll get a big enough leap to get out of the resolution and framerate and crappy shadows and lighting ghetto, but not much more than that.
So either we'll get graphics similar to current console ports with pc settings graphics, or we get a graphics leap and are right back at 720 p 20 fps and horribly agressive LOD.
I'm not optimistic or hyped at all about next gen.
Sony 1st party with 4gb GDDR5 at their disposal? omgaw