-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Evil Within (PC) patched to give options to remove letterboxing, allow 60 FPS.
- Thread starter Corpekata
- Start date
And not for a single second it crossed your mind that this game's problem is the engine, not the hw capabilities? There's nothing in here that ps4 couldn't pull off at a rock solid 30fps with no letterboxing, specially considering this is a cross gen game.
Same goes for PC, there's nothing in there that would bring a solid rig to its knees when trying to reach 60fps. Tango done goofed, but I cut them some slack; they're not a big studio, somehow I don't think the budget was astronomical and they didn't have the right tools for the job.
It's still a shoddy job but it's not entirely their fault. Maybe if they had left the engine alone we would have 60fps with no letterboxing on ps4, but that amazing dynamic lighting system wouldn't be present. It was a trade off, but could have been handled better.
GayForMaster
Banned
You've got to be fucking kidding me...
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
This is one of my favorite emergent phrases on the internet, and yes, they did. I just hope their momentum in Japan keeps up, I think Bethesda will cut them slack even if it doesn't though. One thing I'm worried is that I was looking up old Evil Within stuff from when it was still called Project Zwei, and I was alarmed to see some site reporting that Mikami said it would be his last game. It may have been inaccurate, since I haven't heard that at all before, but if it was something he said, I hope he has changed his mind. This game deserves a follow up to master its potential.
When thinking of a sequel for this game, I do have to wonder whether they will go for something other than the current "megagore" style. It might be interesting to have the sequel be uncannily clean at times, not for combat, but environments filled with oozing organs might feel like treading the same ground if they do it again. I think it would be cool if it also focused less on the brain, and onto some other equally eery subject/thing.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Short answer: idTech5. Long answer: I wouldn't be surprised if a lot behind the scenes changes to stability really did take up a lot of this extra data. That, and there was the note about localization fixes, maybe the Italian voice track needed a fixin'.
luca_29_bg
Member
They already said that full 1080p is less demanding on bandwith that 1920x800 with 4x msaa and shader aa. They reiterate that is a artistic choice, and the evil within is totally crap tecnically speaking compared to the order. The order simply destroy the evil within beyond immagination...
Anyone else having a weird texture flicker? It mainly happens on their clothing and hair. Sigh
Can only get rid of it by going back to 30 fps. What bullshit, the came ran fine before with tweaks now it's just broken because you cannot use flawless widescreen anymore. THey should also fix the fact g-sync doesn't work.
Can only get rid of it by going back to 30 fps. What bullshit, the came ran fine before with tweaks now it's just broken because you cannot use flawless widescreen anymore. THey should also fix the fact g-sync doesn't work.
Yes, that.
Jin
Member
It's legit. No zoomed in thing. But the default FOV is still a bit low but playable.
wish I hadnt played it already. oh well, theres always the dlc
OldGangWarily
Member
Still unplayable at 4K for me. Back to the backlog it goes.
Also I was hoping they added Japanese but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Also I was hoping they added Japanese but it doesn't seem to be the case.
robertlebrone
Member
Nice I might check the game out now.
-MD-
Member
Just curious, what hardware are you working with?
-MD-
Member
When I disabled the letterboxing I hated it for like 5 minutes until I got used to it. I liked the bars in my first playthrough, we'll see how this one goes.
Tbh I was enjoying it and made it all the way to chapter 6. Mind you I started from chapter 2 in that zone thingy through the glass when that patch first hit and at first I thought that the POV was zoomed in when I switched it off. So I ended up deciding to stick with the letterbox. It wasn't until chapter 6 that I decided to switch it around and it made a heck of a difference in terms of what I could see which is why I posted those images.
OldGangWarily
Member
i7 2600K @ 4.4 GHz
Gigabyte G1 Sniper 3
Mushkin RAM 8GB
MSI GTX 780 TI GAMING SLI
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
This update break Flawless Widescreen for anyone else? Doesn't seem to be working for me anymore.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
But the update stops it from functioning properly. Have you stopped steam from updating?
Edit:To the poster above, yup. It's why I ended up not getting any further in this game today. I was already on a pretty tough boss in Ch. 10, but not being able to change my FOV really prevented me from playing even half as good as before. I'm serious, it's a major hinderance, and one of the main reasons I got the game on PC and not PS4. The performance was one factor, but even it and the infamous black bars don't bother me as much as the FOV. It's the only thing I change now, I'm fine with the black bars. "It's not just about being able to see, it's about feeling normal." (lol)
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Unlocking the fps makes my GPU skyrocket in temperature, even when it's vsync'd.
I hope this isnt a trend for these current gen games going forward where even expensive GPUs on the market isn't powerful enough.
Sometimes, I hate being a PC gamer.
I hope this isnt a trend for these current gen games going forward where even expensive GPUs on the market isn't powerful enough.
Sometimes, I hate being a PC gamer.
It really shouldn't on current gen consoles, the game is a mess tech-wise.
Yeah it's idTech 5. Albeit a heavily modified version, but still. At least PS4 should be able to run this at 60fps since Wolfenstein does and that's identical to the PC-version maxed out. Yet they managed to get it to run below 30 which is really bad considering. Don't have an issue with it being 30fps, but because of the engine they chose it should be rock-solid.
UnrealEck
Member
Your GPU should be able to run maxed out continuously for long periods of time without issue. I get what you mean though in that TEW requires excessive amounts of processing power and it's as if it goes nowhere. But the console versions are worse for multiple reasons. I don't understand why you hate being a PC gamer in this instance.Unlocking the fps makes my GPU skyrocket in temperature, even when it's vsync'd.
I hope this isnt a trend for these current gen games going forward where even expensive GPUs on the market isn't powerful enough.
Sometimes, I hate being a PC gamer.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
My temp is reaching 78-80 degrees. I don't think that's good.
And the hate is the constant advancement of technology and the price that goes with it.
alexandros
Banned
It comes with the territory. For what it's worth I think gaming is a pretty cheap hobby, PC gaming even more so.
78-80 degrees isn't anything to worry about, that's actually a lot lower than what I usually get in my games.
onken
Member
Made a quick video using Shadowplay (chapter 7 spoilers I guess) that will be 1080p 60fps (lol) when it's done encoding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkuNlVUA-EI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkuNlVUA-EI
Yes, auto-updating isn't enabled (for this game).
It's still not optimized so slow down a bit there. It's essentially just the console frame rate commands are now in the options. Along with Letterbox On/Off.
I say this because I see so many posters jump at buying something, and then cry about what shit game it is because 1) They aren't very good at the game, 2) It doesn't "work" with their hardware, 3) The story "sucks"....blah
Good call, have not yet.
This is so much better.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
The cheaper games on Steam do make up for it though.
Ok, so it's not that bad then?
That's refreshing to know.
What are dangerous levels by the way? Would the GPU actually shut down and tell me it's getting to hot?
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Seriously... I booted it up last night and couldn't stand the narrow FOV. How do people play this game on consoles? You can't see shit even without the massive letterboxes. I hope a solution arises soon. I'm done with the game until then.
Nope it's not bad at all, my games generally hover around 90 degrees. I think anything above that might cause issues, but that's never happened to me.
I'm not really sure what happens if it gets too hot though.
Typically they would just max out the fan speed. They may also throttle the clock speeds in an effort to force it to cool down. I know CPUs will shut down when too hot, but I have never encountered a GPU that will force the computer off. My GTX 480 was consistently hitting 105C and it would just rev the fan up and continue chugging along.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
I am very jealous. I wish I was more skeptical when I saw that Steam was updating it, might have been able to stop it...
Yeah, it's really bad now. I can't see the traps that were within easy view before, its much more frustrating. I really liked the game before, but I can't play this game with its default FOV, I'm too used to having spacial awareness I guess. It sucks too, because I tried the other FOV fix (the second one, just an executable that allows dynamic modification in real time), but it doesn't seem to work now either. I suppose I could try out the CheatEngine fix...
Edit: Yup, it seems like CheatEngine doesn't recognize the new Evil Within executable too.