BumblebeeCody
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Probably depends on which disk he tried. Other source:
This is good news!
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External HDD for Xbox One improves load times!
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This is good news!
Yeah, that does make sense that you'd see improvements, for a couple of different reasons.
I put a 1TB Hybrid 7200rpm into my PS4, and I saw definite improvements in speed, even though the system was already fast. So to everyone that starts using their externals with the XB1, congrats on faster loadtimes! Maybe it'll help with how long the initial install is too?
I put a 1TB Hybrid 7200rpm into my PS4, and I saw definite improvements in speed, even though the system was already fast. So to everyone that starts using their externals with the XB1, congrats on faster loadtimes! Maybe it'll help with how long the initial install is too?
AcePartyN7
Member
Any test with an external SSD yet? It will be interesting to see with an SSD if the loading times are at least cut per 2 for some games. After it will be an expensive solution, external SSD are not cheap actually.
You can buy smaller SSDs and set them up in a RAID array.
blast processed
Member
Are you seriously telling me you couldn't remove seven characters from the post to put the time
What if I tell you that the multiplayer loads 2 minutes and 25 seconds?
I don't believe you.
Wishmaster92
Member
Someone test an ssd
thefunkyman
Banned
Are there any 7,200 RPM 2.5" external drives? I'm looking for a 2TB one.
uncledonnie
Banned
That's a good point; eliminating any disk contention alone could make a big difference. Definitely need to pick an external drive up.
What is this, a Commodore? Please tell me this is an isolated game and not a problem across the XB1 and/or PS4 platforms.But it's true
1:33 to load a solo MP match. Around 2 minutes for a 2 player match.
Load times are generally longer on Xbox One, especially for exclusive games but most multiplats are the same assuming ps4 stock drive.
Load times are just terrible with this much ram to fill up. Much worse than last generation in every single game so far.
the MP load time makes sense though because you only have to do it once. there is no loading when you change maps between rounds. Ryse SP you get hit with ridiculous load times every time you die
you just need to change it to a usb3 enclosure; the drive itself should be fine
so, my first observations, as I just moved forza 5 to the external drive, but before that I timed the game on the internal drive
have in mind:
a) the internal 500gb hdd had 18.1 gb free at the time I tested.(and forza 5 was the very first game I installed back in november, if that affects anything)
b) the external is a wd my book 2tb
so
1 - forza initial boot (including trademarks + logo screens)
internal: ~31secs (to "press A" fully loaded)
external: ~26secs (to the same point)
2- forza loading from rivals menu, to ready to start menu (with track & opponents fully loaded)
internal: ~33 seconds (I tested the second vip rivals race, as I had to create another car to test the first one, thats why I did the second))
external: ~17 seconds
now, the first test basically includes the display of the splash screen(s) and t10+ms logos, they are unskippable, and i did notice that the rotating loading icon bottom right side was not present in the external boot other than the first seconds.
the second test, the more impressive one, I cannot test another track on the internal drive unless I re-move the game back to internal, which I dont plan to
I did test though a little further on the external, choosing other tracks from rivals, from other categories too and I get a consistent sub 20sec loading time, which seems to me quite faster than before, let alone what the stopwatch says.
have in mind:
a) the internal 500gb hdd had 18.1 gb free at the time I tested.(and forza 5 was the very first game I installed back in november, if that affects anything)
b) the external is a wd my book 2tb
so
1 - forza initial boot (including trademarks + logo screens)
internal: ~31secs (to "press A" fully loaded)
external: ~26secs (to the same point)
2- forza loading from rivals menu, to ready to start menu (with track & opponents fully loaded)
internal: ~33 seconds (I tested the second vip rivals race, as I had to create another car to test the first one, thats why I did the second))
external: ~17 seconds
now, the first test basically includes the display of the splash screen(s) and t10+ms logos, they are unskippable, and i did notice that the rotating loading icon bottom right side was not present in the external boot other than the first seconds.
the second test, the more impressive one, I cannot test another track on the internal drive unless I re-move the game back to internal, which I dont plan to
I did test though a little further on the external, choosing other tracks from rivals, from other categories too and I get a consistent sub 20sec loading time, which seems to me quite faster than before, let alone what the stopwatch says.
well, I just got the black wd drive, it matches the xbone pretty-pretty well, I put it to the right side of the xbone and halfway back. could pass as an official ms xbone accessory
RedHotChimiChanga
Banned
Does this mean the internal harddrive is really slow?
I dont know about 50%, I wrote down what I found, and still think its good.
the plug it in and play thing, yes, on this I agree its a 100% dunk
going from this:
to this:
is in fact exactly as easy as plugging a usb cable behind your xbone.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Can someone recommend some good options as far as external drives go?
Yes just like the stock PS4 drive. These HDD's are just junk.
SolidusDave
Member
Someone should also use an external 5400 rpm drive as a negative control!
Then test the loading at least three times for a standard deviation
Then test the loading at least three times for a standard deviation
GayForMaster
Banned
Probably depends on which disk he tried. Other source:
But did he post SSD results?
Neither SATA nor USB 3.0 are bottlenecks for platter drives. This is simply a case of your external 3.5" drive being faster than the internal 2.5" drive. Pretty much any 3.5" drive will be faster than a 2.5" drive with the same rotational speeds.
Leatherworkstation
Banned
Good news, Xbox One load times are soul crushing.
he didn't see any improvement from his raid 0 setup. didn't mention what SSD he was using
Hawk269
Member
As promised here are some more results. This time I used Forza. I did separate tests and using two different tracks and different number of AI opponents, since the more AI opponents the more data the game needs to load.
Test #1: Free Play, Track: Prague, AI Cars: 7
Internal HDD - 39.88 Seconds
External HDD - 26.59 Seconds
Test #2: Free Play, Track: Long Beach, AI Cars: 15
Internal HDD - 49.38 seconds
External HDD - 34.71 seconds
I started my timing as soon as the first load screen appears after hitting start race, I stopped the timing as soon as the track image disappears and shows information on times etc.
I am using a Seagate 4TB External Self Powered Drive STBV4000100. When I bought it at Fry's the sales person said it was a 5400rpm drive, but no where on Newegg or Seagate's website does it show the drive speed. So it may be faster, but not sure. As others pointed out, the size of the drives platter can also be the reason. I am not sure if there is a difference due to USB 3.0 or the internals SATA connection, I was just postng what I had heard in another thread. Regardless, load times in my tests are significantly faster than that of the internal HDD, which is good for me.
Test #1: Free Play, Track: Prague, AI Cars: 7
Internal HDD - 39.88 Seconds
External HDD - 26.59 Seconds
Test #2: Free Play, Track: Long Beach, AI Cars: 15
Internal HDD - 49.38 seconds
External HDD - 34.71 seconds
I started my timing as soon as the first load screen appears after hitting start race, I stopped the timing as soon as the track image disappears and shows information on times etc.
I am using a Seagate 4TB External Self Powered Drive STBV4000100. When I bought it at Fry's the sales person said it was a 5400rpm drive, but no where on Newegg or Seagate's website does it show the drive speed. So it may be faster, but not sure. As others pointed out, the size of the drives platter can also be the reason. I am not sure if there is a difference due to USB 3.0 or the internals SATA connection, I was just postng what I had heard in another thread. Regardless, load times in my tests are significantly faster than that of the internal HDD, which is good for me.
noob question:
so 2.5 usb 3.0 hdd won't make a difference?
something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E83X9P8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
so 2.5 usb 3.0 hdd won't make a difference?
something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E83X9P8/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Yep. One could assume that it's simply a virtue of not being constrained by SATAII.... SATAII tops out at 300MB/s bandwidth, USB 3 regularly gets 300-400 in real-world applications.
Chinpoko_Master
Member
So USB 3.0 is actually faster than SATA II? Interesting, I didn't know that.
statham
Member
huge difference. Got to get one soon.
heh, thats exactly the drive (1tb?) I had in my drawer waiting for the xbone, the one that died.
I bought the "mybook" series today based 100% on reliability reports.
my passport was not the first external I had die on me.
both of them though, passport and mybook I think are not 7200rpm drives, the most i could find from a tech guy I know in a big store, is that chances are both are 5400rpm.
now, if any of you guys knows better about both drives rpm's, please tell us/me.
if there are 7200rpm drives that are equally reliable and faster, even better.
thefunkyman
Banned
Most 2.5" externals seem to be 5,400 RPM, which is the same as the internal drive. Whether the areal density of a bigger drive would make a difference, I don't know. I'm trying to find a 2TB 7,200 2.5" external drive myself, so I'll let you know if I find anything fast/good.
The Hitachi Touro Desk Pro drives are 7,200 and they're really fast. I used to have a 2TB one, now I have a 4TB. The only thing I don't like about those drives is that there's no on/off switch on the drive itself, but that shouldn't be an issue for Xbox One use as the drive would turn off when the console is off. Oh yeah, the included cable is pretty short, but again, that should be fine for Xbox use as you'll likely keep it right next to the console.hwalker84 said:
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Damn, as a PS4 user I am super jelly of Xbox One users getting every cool improvement on their OS. I'm already out of space
I will get the console down the road so the more improvements, the better.
I will get the console down the road so the more improvements, the better.
statham
Member
The Touro price seems pretty decent for a 7200. We need more tests..
doniewhalberg
Member
I had a quick search on amazon, criteria being 1tb+, usb 3.0 and 7200rpm. Got This, is this the right kind of thing to be looking at? Kind of ready to pull the trigger on an external drive for my X1, just so I have it uot of the way. Fine on space right now, but that will change quick. EDIT: Wait, this thing I've linked will need it's own power supply, right?
how about taking a hit for science and backing up your touro pro and then connecting to the xbone to do some comparative tests?
I'll gladly use the mybook for my pc if touropro is significantly faster.
also, how about hyrids? are they reliable enough? and how about gains in real world operation (loading & playing xbone games)?