Relaxed Muscle
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Lightning's hair is one of the hairstyles on XIV and a very popular one, as you can see.
She also is part of one of the events of the game.
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Lightning's hair is one of the hairstyles on XIV and a very popular one, as you can see.
She also is part of one of the events of the game.
R10Neymarfan
Member
I haven't played the game again since, so I still feel the same way. I played through FFXIII-2 too and enjoyed it well enough. I just thing that a lot of negative factors work against the series and S-E in general. There's an increasing lack of polish in each subsequent XIII game, the team doesn't seem to know how to present a compelling product to the audience, and there's nothing else S-E Japan has been releasing of note on consoles other than XIV, which is a MMO. So perception is at an all time low, and I don't think that's surprising.
Mockingbird
Member
Wasn't FFXIII supposed to be ps3 exclusive in Japan?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
They released the 360 version months later.
It was for a year.
oh man.
I don't really see how you could say that. FFX does everything FFXIII does, but better.
The story is presented better. Maybe having Tidus as a fish out of water is cliche, but it sure sets up actually explaining things better then "here's a datalog".
The linearity is given a reason for it and the world feels like a world instead of levels stitched together.
The level progression at least feels like it's not artificially holding you back. It is with the sphere locks, but XIII's grids are so obvious about it that it feels tedious.
X hides all the flaws it shares with XIII much better. XIII is still good though.
brandonh83
Banned
I can't either, but let the man have his opinion. FFXIII does have its merits. I don't think it comes together as nicely as FFX, but I don't think it's some bizarre stance.
Opinions.
Neither are great games to me so far, FFX started well until more of the cast was introduced...feel like the cringe increased per party member (other than Auron).
It was capped by what happened at Bikanel.
Let me remind you that this is a thing in FFX (spoilers).
Neither are fantastic games by any stretch. I don't see FFX becoming better all of a sudden as much as I'd like it to.
This is hilarious...also true
I feel like FFX came at the right place, and right time in terms of something in the early 2000. The game is cringe-central now. This comes from an unbiased opinion where I only started playing FFX in the remaster for the first time this year.
Compare it to games like FFIX, FFVII, FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, etc., and these are games that actually hold up well with the passage of time.
EDIT: Same duckroll, the switching of party members to Level up was bothersome. The Sphere Grid isn't something to praise either. Crystarium is a much worse version of it, though.
Compare it to games like FFIX, FFVII, FFVI, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, etc., and these are games that actually hold up well with the passage of time.
EDIT: Same duckroll, the switching of party members to Level up was bothersome. The Sphere Grid isn't something to praise either. Crystarium is a much worse version of it, though.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
So my major question related to steam logo. Is FXIII and children quite clearly appear to have damaged the brand. So what braindead moron keeps deciding to push it more and more?
Antilurker77
Member
Not by much.
I don't know... I'm really confused...
FFX is less linear and I do agree about that, I loved early sections in Besaid.
Still, both games are so linear that there's not much to write home about. I don't dislike linearity, anyway. FFX could have been less linear and been a better game though since it has a really well crafted world. But alas, it isn't.
Opinions, etc, but FFIX doesn't hold up at all for me. In fact, for the last half-decade or so I've probably been on a sort of hate streak on the game every time it's brought up as some classic. The battles are really drawn out, there's a ton of loading, it's just slow and boring, and everything that's good about the game is just pandering to nostalgia of older and better FF games.
R10Neymarfan
Member
Square has to make that money and if you've been paying attention to GAF threads
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=882323&highlight=final+fantasy+xiii+pc
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=876533&highlight=final+fantasy+xiii+pc
Some won't mind double dipping or even purchasing
I haven't played the 'older and better' FF games before FFVI. FFIX was a breath of fresh air that anybody could play and smile about. Reminded me of Nintendo games and Chrono Trigger in that sense.
I feel like the battle system didn't stand the test of time as well, but to me everything else is so great that those things pop out to me more. I don't remember the load times in a game, ever. They just have to be good enough for me to get through the game.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Most of the work was (probably) already done for the divein service, and they probably want to test the waters for a possible XV release. They could have chosen a much better game to do so? Obviously, but in terms of cost and time, was probably the best choice.
That is if the steam version do really exists.
I don't like the battle system much either. It was less refined compared to FFVII and FFX in terms of encounter design and balance, and it was less unique/interesting compared to FFVIII. It just felt like something trying to feel like a "traditional" FF game without really having anything special or great on it's own. I think out of all the FF games Ito worked on, FFIX is his weakest.
I agree.
I do admit the game has really sweet characters and amazing music but its not close to being one of my favorites for other reasons.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I too consider IX the weakest of PS FF games. Battle system was definetly the weakest part and the characters and plot wasn't that interesting.
simplythebest
Banned
any links to where i can see the stream?
Actually, I don't think that is quite true. XIII's tubes are bigger and have more branches then X's tubes.
12 and 14 are garbage?
Oh I definitely know the feeling at the time FFIX was released. Even for people who were long time FF fans, the fantasy setting was a breath of fresh air and who can forget the Alexander vs Bahamut FMV? Lol. But aside from that experience when it was released, I don't think it holds up as a great game these days at all. Chrono Trigger definitely does.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-NKLko4QUw
In all honesty though it probably isn't worth watching.
The conference is for Asian audiences who are assumed to have not watched the pre-TGS conference or past game conferences. The majority if not all of it will be reused trailers and gameplay we've seen from old game announcements.
MissDeviling
Member
How could you not want more Lightning?
APZonerunner
Member
For me, I think - if we're talking Ito - titles like FF6 and FF12 have better parts, but FF9 is the better sum, even with all its flaws. The game is the very definition of 'more than the sum of its parts' to me. But I absolutely understand why people may feel otherwise, particularly with the speed issues. A version of that game with the frame rate cranked up and the load times obliterated would be a dream for me.
Chrono Trigger, which you mentioned in another post, is undoubtedly objectively better... but it's the best JRPG ever, I'd argue, so that's fair. On a subjective level FF9 is my favourite for a lot of personal reasons, however.
I'm just gonna watch again and cheer when P5 comes up.
Exentryk
Member
You don't win the lottery if you don't buy the ticket. Sometimes you win big (ROEN leaks, TGS site leak), sometimes it's barely anything (like that tweet). You might do this sorta thing for animes, while others do it for games (Versus). You might not do it all, and that's fine. To each their own.
Kagari has Lightening as her avatar, but always bashes the 13 saga. Some strange love-
hate thing going on there yo
Relaxed Muscle
Member
It opens way more by the end of the game, than XIII ever does.
Sure, I can understand preferring the "whole" since some of it can be very subjective. There's an appeal to the world and characters in FFIX even though I find them extremely artificial in terms of pandering to an "old fantasy" feel. What I was referring to with Ito in particular though, was no so much his role in directing the entire game, but rather his work on gameplay system design. If we look at FF5-9, 12, FFT, etc. I think that ultimately the battle system and skill systems in FF9 feel the least interesting to me. That's where most of my disappointment lies.
I was reaching a bit with my FFIX statement. I just like what it represents in being extremely charming. That goes a long way to me.
Speaking of which, I really hope Itou works on FFXVI or something. Regardless, I just want it to be a far departure from the overly dramatic FFXV and FFXIII. I just want a game that has fun with itself like FFIX and Chrono Trigger.
That's not Lightning, that's Stella from XV.