Fbh
Member
Yeah I just saw the comparison shots on the purple forum.
Somehow it got even worse.
This is going back on the wait for sale list unless there's some improvement by launch.
Ps3 era image quality isn't worth $70.
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Demo Update "Dawn of a New Era" launches tomorrow at 7AM EST / 4AM PST / 1pm CET
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Yeah I just saw the comparison shots on the purple forum.
Somehow it got even worse.
This is going back on the wait for sale list unless there's some improvement by launch.
Ps3 era image quality isn't worth $70.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The new level looks was better than the first. Lighting is beautiful and textures/asset quality is very high. The rocks look very detailed and the detail level on the ground is extremely impressive.
Color me surprised. I have no idea what happened with the flashback but this is a significant upgrade from the first game. Gorgeous stuff.
Color me surprised. I have no idea what happened with the flashback but this is a significant upgrade from the first game. Gorgeous stuff.
Emppu666
Neo Member
Quality or performance mode?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Quality. But the first demo looked awful even in quality mode.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Almost done downloading.. hope to check it out this morning but might not be able to until this afternoon.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
How's the texture/image quality in the performance mode now? They said they'll address it with this update.
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saintjules
Member
I see no change personally. I was much closer to the TV this time though. I'll have to try it tonight at my usual sitting position and see, but the blurriness was noticeable from where I sat.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Quality mode I see. Which is fine. Very smooth. Will check it out
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yeah, but like i said above, i played the first demo in quality mode and it looked like shit. the asset quality of the rocks and ground level detail is way higher in this level. not to mention the lighting but then again dusk time looks great in any game.
i dont know what happened with the demo but this looks way better. Maybe the Forspoken devs made the flashback sequence lol
TrebleShot
Member
Game story and gameplay will be amazing, but it looks like shit.
Kumomeme
Member
just finish it. quick short demo just to give taste of how exploration will be.
before Hamauguchi mention game like Ghost of Tsushima, Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn as inspiration and we can see trace of it in the demo.
before Hamauguchi mention game like Ghost of Tsushima, Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn as inspiration and we can see trace of it in the demo.
the chocobo baby basically fox mechanic from GoT
loot style is kind of similliar to Horizon
havent see anything close to Witcher 3 yet. perhaps in full game.
the cushion mechanic is interesting lol. before Final Fantasy always has item like 'tent' or 'sleeping bag'.
loot style is kind of similliar to Horizon
havent see anything close to Witcher 3 yet. perhaps in full game.
the cushion mechanic is interesting lol. before Final Fantasy always has item like 'tent' or 'sleeping bag'.
MikeM
Member
Looks the same to me. This is the blurriest 1440p presentation I can remember. I don’t get it…
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Not my screens but IQ aside (which in quality mode would be fine to 99% of people), the visuals look like a good step up from Remake.
Gone are the 2D mixed with 3D skyboxes and background from Remake and instead the geomtery looks far more complex and detailed. Also considering the size of the maps, boosts to geomtery complexity and trying to render the game up to native 2160p, I think we can see where the extra horsepower is being used for Rebirth on PS5 vs Remake on PS4.
Gone are the 2D mixed with 3D skyboxes and background from Remake and instead the geomtery looks far more complex and detailed. Also considering the size of the maps, boosts to geomtery complexity and trying to render the game up to native 2160p, I think we can see where the extra horsepower is being used for Rebirth on PS5 vs Remake on PS4.
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ChiefDada
Gold Member
You might want to get your eyes checked
From the purple forum
Before patch:
After patch:
But the two images are at different zoom level
let's keep making noise and see if they properly fix it this time
wvnative
Member
I really cannot fathom what happened here. Textures in the open hubs aside, Remake looked really good. Very high IQ and excellent HDR. This just looks ass.
Also, am I the only one who thinks, during gameplay, the character ANIMATIONS look worse? Like, more jerky compared to Remake 1? Just running in a straight line in both games, it looks like cloud has more animation frames in the first game.
This game is fundamentally flawed on a tech level, so don't expect any patches to magically improve it unless they do a PS5 pro patch. Just hope the finale (Part 3) learns lessons and looks better.
Also, am I the only one who thinks, during gameplay, the character ANIMATIONS look worse? Like, more jerky compared to Remake 1? Just running in a straight line in both games, it looks like cloud has more animation frames in the first game.
This game is fundamentally flawed on a tech level, so don't expect any patches to magically improve it unless they do a PS5 pro patch. Just hope the finale (Part 3) learns lessons and looks better.
JimboJones
Member
I think they got rid of the blur filter and just straight nearest neighbor pixel scale it now. So yeah.
paolo11
Member
It’s still blurry and much worse than Remake’s performance mode. If they can make it as same as IQ for Remake , I’ll be happy . I don’t know if they will fix it though .I think they got rid of the blur filter and just straight nearest neighbor pixel scale it now. So yeah.
Brock2621
Member
My gosh this looks incredible! Must. Resist. Playing.Not my screens but IQ aside (which in quality mode would be fine to 99% of people), the visuals look like a good step up from Remake.
Gone are the 2D mixed with 3D skyboxes and background from Remake and instead the geomtery looks far more complex and detailed. Also considering the size of the maps, boosts to geomtery complexity and trying to render the game up to naive 2160p, I think we can see where the extra horsepower is being used for Rebirth on PS5 vs Remake on PS4.
SkylineRKR
Member
Game looks good all things considered. Its essentially Remake set in a playfield thats 100 times bigger than that corridor game. Even the small demo part has more verticality and more freedom than the entirety of Remake. This game isn't going to look that much better than it does now. The scale is immense compared to Remake.
But having said that, this seems to be a rather average game on its own merits. It looks cluttered with waypoints and things taken straight out of Horizon but then worse and much less interactive. The gameplay is very limited, you can't jump for example. The open world seems to be another case of just grabbing things, and fight some special enemies for research purposes. I doubt the final game sidequest design goes far beyond this cookie cutter stuff. Its just not that kind of game. But its gameplay is rather bad because everything is automatic and the world is full of obstacles, debris and many things. Navigating it isn't really fun. Chocobos feel slow, and it seems you can't quickly jump off and strike an enemy for example. I think they are slow because this open world is likely fairly small compared to other open world games.
There have been much better open world games around ofcourse. But this is technically an RPG, and its FFVII. So I guess it delivers more than what we might've expected after Remake. But I don't think its going to be that good if you factor out the nostalgia goggles.
I think we will see very divided reviews. Gamers who weren't there in 1997 might think this is ho hum, and others gush over the fact its FFVII remade. I wonder.
But having said that, this seems to be a rather average game on its own merits. It looks cluttered with waypoints and things taken straight out of Horizon but then worse and much less interactive. The gameplay is very limited, you can't jump for example. The open world seems to be another case of just grabbing things, and fight some special enemies for research purposes. I doubt the final game sidequest design goes far beyond this cookie cutter stuff. Its just not that kind of game. But its gameplay is rather bad because everything is automatic and the world is full of obstacles, debris and many things. Navigating it isn't really fun. Chocobos feel slow, and it seems you can't quickly jump off and strike an enemy for example. I think they are slow because this open world is likely fairly small compared to other open world games.
There have been much better open world games around ofcourse. But this is technically an RPG, and its FFVII. So I guess it delivers more than what we might've expected after Remake. But I don't think its going to be that good if you factor out the nostalgia goggles.
I think we will see very divided reviews. Gamers who weren't there in 1997 might think this is ho hum, and others gush over the fact its FFVII remade. I wonder.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yikes, looks like they changed the upscaling method for the worse.
Anyone got any before/after of same areas?
Imtjnotu
Member
SkylineRKR
Member
Yeah it feels like a cheap knockoff when in motion. I also don't like the menus in this game and they seem to be less responsive too. Remake was actually pretty slick.
Also, I can barely follow the combat now while this was the best part about Remake. Its very cluttered here. I enjoy the fights less so far.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
saintjules
Member
GOT IT!
MasterCornholio
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saintjules
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Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Seeing so many comments saying that normal mode in Rebirth feels like hard mode in Remake. 
I felt Remake was harder than 16, but still pretty straightforward except for in boss fights. It sounds like they're going to bring the heat in this one.
I'll probably stick to Normal rather than Dynamic Normal or whatever the enemy scaling difficulty mode is called.
I felt Remake was harder than 16, but still pretty straightforward except for in boss fights. It sounds like they're going to bring the heat in this one.
I'll probably stick to Normal rather than Dynamic Normal or whatever the enemy scaling difficulty mode is called.
Nice.
saintjules
Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
saintjules
Member
I do not play it in performance mode so it could be both.
I only played a few minutes this morning before I went to work, but based on some images, seems like graphics mode is fine.
But I was seeing two different rocks on the same floor. One was blurry and the other wasn't.
Weird what's going on, but in the heat of battle none of that matters anyway.
Physiognomonics
Member
Considering that's 30fps vs 60fps, there is not a big difference of sharpness between both. It's more blurry than quality but clearly less blurry than before. I'd say performance mode should be played here.
Most importantly assets / lighting quality is the same between both modes. Quality mode is not worthwhile IMO. It was looking already blurry before and now the gap is quite small between both.
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saintjules
Member
I agree. I will be doing performance mode. I just wonder what they did here in terms of improvement that they've been boasting about it. I don't think there will be much improvement at launch unless this was an old build. I think it was?
This is definitely door 2.0, but I'm hoping that's not throughout the game.