Balducci30
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I don’t care about performance mode. As long as the graphics are better than the first demo I’m good
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Demo Update "Dawn of a New Era" launches tomorrow at 7AM EST / 4AM PST / 1pm CET
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Comandr
Member
Really not loving the new Chadley and MAI monster data gathering thing. MAI talks non stop the entire fight with these monsters and it just feels like constant chatter getting in the way of an adventure. Feels like this was designed for the TikTok generation that needs stuff constantly blasted into their face or they will lose interest.
ENGAGEMENT!!!
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ENGAGEMENT!!!
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Okay I need to get this off my chest. This is my problem with adding additional characters where there really didn’t need to be any.
The crew gets to the town Under Junon. They’re greeted by mayor officer jenny or whatever her name is. She tells the crew that this here is under junon a little fishing village barely surviving having been shunned by junon proper. She then immediately pulls up wanted posters for everyone and calls them out, explicitly telling them she could take in a cool 600,000 Gil for turning them in. Barret has a great line here given the context “well you know what they say, you can’t take it with ya” as he prominently displays his gatling gun.
Then officer mayor is like no, we know when to turn a blind eye round here. There’s an inn over there where aaaaanyone is welcome. Good luck y’all.
So we meet this character who is supposed to be the caretaker of this whole town which she admits is in shit. Then she squanders this golden opportunity that walks up to her. For all she knows a bunch of whacko terrorists escaped from shinra and may have killed the president and are on the loose. Then she offers them room and board in her poor shanty town! Like what!! Lady you’re the problem! You’re the reason this town is doing so poorly!
Don’t write in unnecessary characters that don’t make any fuckin sense. It would be more believable that this small poor town is struggling if… no one at all was posted at the entrance to greet new comers. Cuz you know, everyone would be working or trying to survive. Not mayor mall cop just sitting on an iPad playing golden saucer games and leisurely browsing mugshots.com.
There’s a term for this. Ludonarrative dissonance. And it’s annoying. Okay I’m done ranting.
The crew gets to the town Under Junon. They’re greeted by mayor officer jenny or whatever her name is. She tells the crew that this here is under junon a little fishing village barely surviving having been shunned by junon proper. She then immediately pulls up wanted posters for everyone and calls them out, explicitly telling them she could take in a cool 600,000 Gil for turning them in. Barret has a great line here given the context “well you know what they say, you can’t take it with ya” as he prominently displays his gatling gun.
Then officer mayor is like no, we know when to turn a blind eye round here. There’s an inn over there where aaaaanyone is welcome. Good luck y’all.
So we meet this character who is supposed to be the caretaker of this whole town which she admits is in shit. Then she squanders this golden opportunity that walks up to her. For all she knows a bunch of whacko terrorists escaped from shinra and may have killed the president and are on the loose. Then she offers them room and board in her poor shanty town! Like what!! Lady you’re the problem! You’re the reason this town is doing so poorly!
Don’t write in unnecessary characters that don’t make any fuckin sense. It would be more believable that this small poor town is struggling if… no one at all was posted at the entrance to greet new comers. Cuz you know, everyone would be working or trying to survive. Not mayor mall cop just sitting on an iPad playing golden saucer games and leisurely browsing mugshots.com.
There’s a term for this. Ludonarrative dissonance. And it’s annoying. Okay I’m done ranting.
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SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
This, so much this
Content doesn't matter anymore, the only thing that matters in games is FRAMES and GRAPHICS
LostInTime
Banned
The Digital Foundry era of gaming. I blame those guys for the massive increase in that mentality.
Badlucktroll
Member
Looks pretty “rocky”You might want to get your eyes checked
From the purple forum
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After patch:
proandrad
Member
Just played the demo, and of course you guys are over exaggerating. Can the performance mode look sharper? Yes, of course. But, it doesn't look broken like some other new releases. I was expecting a broken performance mode like Horizon FW on release, FF16 performance mode, or Star Wars Jedi Survivor performance mode before the latest patch. This is nowhere near close to that level of bad.
JimboJones
Member
Art wise it's great looking, just image quality is a bit rough on performance mode, obviously expecting a hit there but not to this degree.
It is what it is I suppose, still perfectly playable.
paolo11
Member
Problem is Remake’s performance mode has better IQ than Rebirth. The patch did not improve it let’s be honest
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Just did this part and completely agree. That lady was unneeded and even if they wanted to include her, easy change for better results: instead of her speaking to you immediately at the gate, have the party come in, save Priscilla, then when the "sheriff" lady comes down she at least has a reason to value your party and maybe overlook the bounty. As it is it's pointless..
xellos2099alpha
Member
How do I access the second part of the demo?
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
It's just on the main menu of the demo.
xellos2099alpha
Member
For me, the main menu only have
Fall of a Hero
Continue
Load Game
Option
The story so far
purchase game
Fall of a Hero
Continue
Load Game
Option
The story so far
purchase game
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Hmm check for update? But mine showed up before the update when I originally downloaded it a couple weeks ago it was just greyed out. Should be right below fall of a hero.
Comandr
Member
that would have been so much better. Excellent suggestion.
FUBARx89
Member
D'ya not have to do fall of a hero?
sigmaZ
Member
"Show don't tell." is something a lot of writers struggle greatly with. It's the fanfic approach to writing where the writer gets too excited when writing that they start writing in an "And then..." fashion piling up unnecessary elements until bogging the story and pacing down. It's trash and I hate it. It's my biggest fear for this game tbh.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Not sure what it is but this is considerably more difficult than the last game to me. The combat feels much more complicated and i feel like im just mashing buttons without any idea. Also, why doesnt this asshole cloud hit anything in the air?
Lethal01
Member
I want to agree butt is is more a combat demo than anything, the trailer show a huge assortment of minigames and the open world looks to lust be a basic tool to get from place to place. The battle system is fantastic so as long as the open world doesn't get in the way of that I wouldnt really look at it as a negative, but rather a missed opportunity
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sigmaZ
Member
Ok I played for about 20 minutes or so. My thoughts:
-Chocobo feels like it should have a jump feature.
-X just shouldn't be the menu button. I will never change my mind on this. It is the most non-inuitive control scheme I think I've ever played in modern gaming. That and having multiple action buttons and having triangle as the pickup button feels ridiculous.
-The cushion for resting seems like an odd and unnecessary choice.
-The battles are ok. I feel like all the extra gimmicks feel unnecessary outside the synergy abilities. I'd rather they had just stuck with menu abilities and made the ATB faster. I almost like the classic mode better but to work, they would need to make the auto-attack more aggressive and speed up the ATB.
I'll play a bit more later, but I think this might be a put off and wait til PC game.
There's so many better looking games coming out in March and I am still playing Like a Dragon and Persona.
-Chocobo feels like it should have a jump feature.
-X just shouldn't be the menu button. I will never change my mind on this. It is the most non-inuitive control scheme I think I've ever played in modern gaming. That and having multiple action buttons and having triangle as the pickup button feels ridiculous.
-The cushion for resting seems like an odd and unnecessary choice.
-The battles are ok. I feel like all the extra gimmicks feel unnecessary outside the synergy abilities. I'd rather they had just stuck with menu abilities and made the ATB faster. I almost like the classic mode better but to work, they would need to make the auto-attack more aggressive and speed up the ATB.
I'll play a bit more later, but I think this might be a put off and wait til PC game.
There's so many better looking games coming out in March and I am still playing Like a Dragon and Persona.
Lethal01
Member
They are in the shit because of Shinra and would probably celebrate avalanche for killing the president, plus tney know that the bounty wouldnt really change things for an entire village even if it would be nice personally, Doesnt seem like dissonance to me. Again these are people who WANT you to hurt shinra
LordOfChaos
Member
I did notice right away that resolution took quite a hit in performance mode for what the game is on PS5, I'll be curious to try out the update.
A demo with a major world expansion, what a time to be alive
A demo with a major world expansion, what a time to be alive
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DownLikeBCPowder
Member
They changed how it works for sure regarding aerial enemies. Before if there was an enemy in the air, pressing square would launch a given character straight up to them and you could engage.
While this game feels better once you are in the air as you have a little bit more control and permanence there I for some reason struggle to get up there to begin with.
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Pelao
Member
I had a significantly easier time parrying enemy attacks this time around than when I played the flashback, to the point where the boss was a piece of cake. I guess it was just a matter of getting used to it. Having access to more party members and more freedom to experiment with the combat system helped me finish this demo with a much more positive impression than the previous one, which was already good.
I'm satisfied with the performance mode and what I've played, so I'll pre-order it.
I'm satisfied with the performance mode and what I've played, so I'll pre-order it.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I might skip the 2nd demo. I finished the first and I got enough. What I read was the final product will be different because they sized down the open parts of the demo. Which takes me back to FFXV and how weird the Platinum Demo was for that. That threw me through a loop because I had a completely different experience than what was in that demo. I want to experience the Chocobo during game time that counts towards progression.
It’s weird but I want a demo to be 1:1 of what the final game is. “This is different than the demo” and yada yada yada.
It’s weird but I want a demo to be 1:1 of what the final game is. “This is different than the demo” and yada yada yada.
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RavageX
Member
There is SO much of this. I swear people barely even talk about if a game is GOOD or not. First thing I see is the 60fps bullshit in every game thread.
A game can still suck regardless.
I found this demo a bit...odd. Movement was all over the place and didn't feel natural? I'm not sure really. It is just a demo though and I did enjoy the part 1.
ByWatterson
Member
Join me in 30fps cinematic land people.
Join meeeeee
Join meeeeee
Kumomeme
Member
yeah it is kind of annoying over she constantly talk and fangirling during fight.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I think that's what I'm gonna have to do too, just like XVI. Square and their performance modes are still not there.
Lethal01
Member
Cloud can manually go into the air at anytime by dodging then holding the attack button or using his fire+lightning blade attack.
Tifa can do it by using her synergy actions (block+ face button)
there are tutorials for the characters in the vr missions via chadley at the ranch
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
I've seen many say this actually. Also a lot of people recommending turning the camera speed down to 1-2 on quality mode makes it better.
Kumomeme
Member
it make me appreciate the fireball spam from FFXVI combat lol
EruditeHobo
Member
I had a scare when I just played thru intermission on performance mode, and switched to graphics mode very briefly almost halfway through... the downgrade in frames felt like a barrier to even playing with that option, felt downright choppy going from 60 to 30. In fact it felt like it couldn't be running at 30. But I was just not used to it.
Went through this Nibelheim demo in graphics mode... no issues for me. Pre-ordered. Pretty excited to dive in.
BTW... this demo has to be one of the best ever? Large flashback section of game that becomes skippable upon release and awards in-game items for completing... then on top of that another huge section is patched in giving a feel for the greater open world mechanics. Pretty fantastic.
I assume there's nothing earned in-game from the Junon demo area... haven't finished with it yet regardless, just got to fishing village without doing too much exploring.
Went through this Nibelheim demo in graphics mode... no issues for me. Pre-ordered. Pretty excited to dive in.
BTW... this demo has to be one of the best ever? Large flashback section of game that becomes skippable upon release and awards in-game items for completing... then on top of that another huge section is patched in giving a feel for the greater open world mechanics. Pretty fantastic.
I assume there's nothing earned in-game from the Junon demo area... haven't finished with it yet regardless, just got to fishing village without doing too much exploring.
Dynasty8
Member
Shit like this pisses me off. I've already pre-ordered the game and am intentionally not going to play the demo(s) so I can go in blind.
Square has a habit of ruining and spoiling everything....wheather it's trailers or demos, they reveal so much where the surprise factor slightly drifts away. Now reading this you can't help but have a little bit of FOMO. Kind of shitty of them to do this.
The Sum of Zero
Member
New part of the demo kicked my ass too.
Maybe I'm rusty on FFVII Remake combat or just not used to all the new shit. Hell I platinumed Remake.
Maybe I'm rusty on FFVII Remake combat or just not used to all the new shit. Hell I platinumed Remake.
Haven't preordered but I'm getting this day 1. FF7 is my favorite game ever and I really enjoyed remake and the extra depth added to characters (and the voice acting and exploring midgar with a free 3d camera).
But is it just me or does the map feel really small? Mythril Mine is so close to Junon and where is Fort Condor? Is it just a demo thing or will it be like this in the full release as well?
But is it just me or does the map feel really small? Mythril Mine is so close to Junon and where is Fort Condor? Is it just a demo thing or will it be like this in the full release as well?
Nankatsu
Gold Member
elementalnocturne
Neo Member
The dialogue at the beginning of the Junon demo made it sound like they moved Fort Condor to a separate island.
Yeah. Will be interesting to see. The earlier previews made it sound like the map was GIGANTIC, now it doesn't seem like it anymore. I should stop getting so hyped up.
paolo11
Member
I have to. Performance mode is too blurry. I don’t know if Square is willing to fix it.
Brigandier
Member
I caved and played the second part of the demo I personally loved it, I'm definitely rusty with the combat system that's for sure as the last boss was kicking my ass until I swapped in Barret, I liked the addition of mini bosses for Chadley but agree with people here that the annoying brat yapping needs to stfu.
I really wish the PS5 Pro was out already I'd have loved to play this 4k 60fps
the graphics mode looks nice but man the 30fps is so jarring, Performance mode is "ok" but it's not good enough for a PS5 game SE have to do better.
I really wish the PS5 Pro was out already I'd have loved to play this 4k 60fps
the graphics mode looks nice but man the 30fps is so jarring, Performance mode is "ok" but it's not good enough for a PS5 game SE have to do better.
SkylineRKR
Member
I beat it twice now and done everything except for the VR challenges. The map is basically just 4 fights, with some objectives in each. But there is a degree of customization with your materia loadout and you can upgrade accessories.
It might be downsized for the demo but the travel time between the mines and junon is fairly similar to the original. However, there are barriers here, no forests and no fort condor to sidetrack to. This is where its obvious that FFVII original isn't as linear as some claimed it to be. The story is, which should be, but you could completely ignore fort condor, gongaga, wutai and more and even miss some key story parts. In my first run I actually went there on disc 3 because I didn't know or bother, I recruited Yuffie and Vincent on disc 3 too, lol.
It might be downsized for the demo but the travel time between the mines and junon is fairly similar to the original. However, there are barriers here, no forests and no fort condor to sidetrack to. This is where its obvious that FFVII original isn't as linear as some claimed it to be. The story is, which should be, but you could completely ignore fort condor, gongaga, wutai and more and even miss some key story parts. In my first run I actually went there on disc 3 because I didn't know or bother, I recruited Yuffie and Vincent on disc 3 too, lol.
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Not at all IMO.
The first demo is just literally the opening hour or so and the second demo is just a random Overworld set up right before Junon. But nothing really happens it's just a chance to play with party mess with materia and fight some battles though you can fight the boss that appears below Junon.
