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It's not obvious at all for those of us to whom XIII and XIII-2 were good (actually, great) games.
The four of you can get together and have coffee to talk about what a jerk I am, then.
It's not obvious at all for those of us to whom XIII and XIII-2 were good (actually, great) games.
Though I am open to a localized, HD International Zodiac Version finally, possibly changing my mind (I hear the IZV is by far the best way to play XII).
The four of you can get together and have coffee to talk about what a jerk I am, then.
The four of you can get together and have coffee to talk about what a jerk I am, then.
For a mod you're either a humorously blatant troll or have some seriously rose-tintend nostalgia glasses. FFX is far from penultimate hurraah to anything. It's super-linear, has some seriously cringe-worthy dialogue and twists from Toriyama's ass, some horrible mini-games, annoingly high enemy counter rate and so-so voice acting. Like XIII, the combat/some (optional) boss battles are what X exceeds in (in addition to a Hamauzu-filled OST), yet XIII has by far the more exciting battle system. Square Enix has released and will release better FF games after it. Even Lightning Returns seems to trump it in at least gameplay, if not story.After Final Fantasy X/X-2 there was (and will ever be) exactly one more good FF game ever released (FFXII.) Seems pretty obvious?
For a mod you're either a humorously blatant troll or have some seriously rose-tintend nostalgia glasses. FFX is far from penultimate hurraah to anything. It's super-linear, has some seriously cringe-worthy dialogue and twists from Toriyama's ass, some horrible mini-games, annoingly high enemy counter rate and so-so voice acting. Square Enix has released and will release better FF games after it. Even Lightning Returns seems to trump it in at least gameplay, if not story
For a mod you're either a humorously blatant troll or have some seriously rose-tintend nostalgia glasses. FFX is far from penultimate hurraah to anything. It's super-linear, has some seriously cringe-worthy dialogue and twists from Toriyama's ass, some horrible mini-games, annoingly high enemy counter rate and so-so voice acting. Like XIII, the combat/some (optional) boss battles are what X exceeds in (in addition to a Hamauzu-filled OST), yet XIII has by far the more exciting battle system. Square Enix has released and will release better FF games after it. Even Lightning Returns seems to trump it in at least gameplay, if not story.
X-2 was a fun game, FFXII was great, FFXIV 2.0 seems to have turned out great, FF Type-0 has gotten a very positive reception from those who have played it and the demo I've played felt great (hopefully we'll get it in some form in the future, if not officially then at least a completed fan translation), XIII-2 had problems Toriyama's games usually do but it wasn't a horrible game in any way (story is non-sensical & dialogue is cringe-worthy, but that same applies, to a degree, to this "penultimate hurraah" you think is so great, lol), Lightning Returns is showing some real promise as far as gameplay goes and Final Fantasy XV will almost without a doubt be a good or even a great game, considering who are leading the game and which way they are taking the project (taking notes from FFXII in many ways and taking those ideas further)... If anything, after FFXIII & XIV 1.0 took the series to an all-time low, the FF franchise is on a (fast) rise again, as far as quality goes.
It's not obvious at all for those of us to whom XIII and XIII-2 were good (actually, great) games. Surprise! Not everyone dislikes the XIII games. It's too early to say either way for Lightning Returns, and I shouldn't even have to mention why passing off XV this early is silly.
Your opinion is your opinion, and that's fine, but bandying it about like it's fact is silly and we all know it.
Also, I hated XII and consider XIII and XIII-2 to be far better RPGs, so there. To date, it's still the only modern FF I have been unable/unwilling to finish. Though I am open to a localized, HD International Zodiac Version finally, possibly changing my mind (I hear the IZV is by far the best way to play XII).
I played the version that was super linear, had often lol-worthy a story, had a battle system that was balanced in a way that didn't require much thought outside of a few boss battles (that were mostly optional, though not all) and which offered some horribly designed minigames and super-grindy sidequests if you wanted to go for 100% completion.Ffx was amazing. Not sure which version you played. To each their own.
Uhh... it's coming. It's no vaporware. I don't disagree that Square Enix have had problems, but it was the ambitious scale/nature of the game (meaning even if everything went smoothly it would have required a long time to become a reality) as well as everything surrounding the development of FFVsXIII/FFXV, not the development process of Versus/FFXV alone that caused it to be a no-show for this entire generation (early announcement long before director or team were even ready to start any kind of meaningful work on the game, problems with trying to unify development tools accross the company, problems with other games' development which lead to Nomura & Co having to halt development of Versus for long periods of time to help with those etc.).Vaperware fantasy 15
Uh... FFXIV 1.0 was released in late 2010 and after a few months of chaos after launch, they went into their whole "panic fixing mode" in 2011. Hardly "an entire console generation", stop exaggerating. If anything, they fixed it (as in, basically developed an altogether new MMO from scratch) in record time.an online rpg that took an entire console generation to fix
You can hate Lightning all you want and not want any sequels featuring her, that's fair. And sure these games are a bit rushed. But no one can deny that they aren't going into the right direction with many of the things they've done in the sequels (the biggest fault being they still let Toriyama come up with the stories, gameplay-wise they are doing all the right things). They may not be executed perfectly, but at least they are reversing the path that Final Fantasy XIII AND X were taking the franchise in.and the half baked trilogy to one of the worst ff games is no rise.
Hey, I still like X, but if someone is going to seriously try to imply X is some last (or second to last) hurraah for FF, Square Enix or... well, ANYTHING, I'm going to point out how ridiculous their claims are, especially if their opinion is supposed to be against XIII, which is basically the spiritual successor to FFX.You're shitting all over my 14 year old self with all of this.
I'am worried about the fact that they are going to re-arrange 60 songs. I mean, they did a really good job with Battle Theme, but i don't think they need to re-arrange all the other songs. These songs sounds great the way they are.
I just hope they don't fuck up songs like Wandering, To Zanarkand, Yuna's Theme, Besaid Island, Tidus Theme, The Silence Before the Storm, Luca, Auron's Theme, Mihem Road, The Revealed Truth, The Advancing men and the list goes on, because frankly, the entire OST is amazing.
A lot of the critique that applies to XIII also applies to X.
my guess is no live songs will be altered, that includes To Zanarkand and Otherworld.
Anyhow: all FF games are linear. Some of them just dress it up better than others. FFX didn't work too hard to dress it up, but did a good job of justifying it in-game with the whole pilgrimage thing. And the ability to backtrack to different parts of the world does, in fact, make a big difference.
I quite prefer the pure turn based combat the FFX had compared to paradigm switching. It was more strategic in that I could slow things down and plan things out with the upcoming turn order if I wanted to, but the battle system could also be pretty quick (compared to PSX FFs) if you didn't need to plan a strategy. The battle system is a bit rock-paper-scissors to begin, but it really shines I think when you meet later enemies like Chimeras, Malboros, Worms, etc and bosses.
It'd be nice if there was a harder difficulty option included in the remaster, but one can also challenge themselves by limiting sphere grid use among other restrictions.
The battle system is a bit rock-paper-scissors to begin
I quite prefer the pure turn based combat the FFX had compared to paradigm switching. It was more strategic in that I could slow things down and plan things out with the upcoming turn order if I wanted to, but the battle system could also be pretty quick (compared to PSX FFs) if you didn't need to plan a strategy. The battle system is a bit rock-paper-scissors to begin, but it really shines I think when you meet later enemies like Chimeras, Malboros, Worms, etc and bosses.
It'd be nice if there was a harder difficulty option included in the remaster, but one can also challenge themselves by limiting sphere grid use among other restrictions.
Still no release date for the west? I thought this was supposed to come out in 2013.
I spent zero.Grimløck;77884093 said:I spent way too many hours playing blitzball.
Still no release date for the west? I thought this was supposed to come out in 2013.
Yeah, FFX's problem is more about the constant one-hit kills you dish out and the fact that it's possible to get through the vast majority of enemy battles without taking any damage if you play your cards correctly (between one-hit kills, Wakka's status attacks, and Tidus's delay attacks).
The rock-paper-scissors stuff is a good idea, but the low difficulty is a bad idea. The two are heavily intertwined but it's important to parse the differences between them.
Final Fantasy X-2, for example, also has tons of palette-swapped dog-type monsters, but each of them has a different negative-status-effect attack, they generally don't get one-hit killed all the time until you're really powerful, and so they feel like authentic enemies that do actually wear you down a little bit.
We probably won't get one until TGS at the earliest. I'm still thinking its going to get delayed, which is dumb. Next year is LR and next gen consoles. Why do they want to release then?
For a mod you're either a humorously blatant troll or have some seriously rose-tintend nostalgia glasses.
Even Lightning Returns seems to trump it in at least gameplay
is PAX gonna start today?
Which requires more thought for normal battles than most other FF games, which usually just have you attack with everyone. FFX at least has you mix and match your characters to the enemies.
FFX is literally exposition the game. It's forgivable because of Tidus' origins in the story. But most people who play through the game probably don't understand where Tidus actually comes from.
Potentially bad news, all: I just talked to a Square Enix rep here at PAX Prime about FF X/X-2 HD's release date and he flat out said it's not coming until 2014, "unless I'm REALLY lucky." That certainly isn't official confirmation of a delay, but it's looking more and more likely. I'd say the writing's on the wall at this point.
He said February 2014 is looking most likely at this point. If that happens, they're screwing themselves on Lightning Returns...
Oh, Square.
Potentially bad news, all: I just talked to a Square Enix rep here at PAX Prime about FF X/X-2 HD's release date and he flat out said it's not coming until 2014, "unless I'm REALLY lucky." That certainly isn't official confirmation of a delay, but it's looking more and more likely. I'd say the writing's on the wall at this point.
He said February 2014 is looking most likely at this point. If that happens, they're screwing themselves on Lightning Returns...
Oh, Square.
Potentially bad news, all: I just talked to a Square Enix rep here at PAX Prime about FF X/X-2 HD's release date and he flat out said it's not coming until 2014, "unless I'm REALLY lucky." That certainly isn't official confirmation of a delay, but it's looking more and more likely. I'd say the writing's on the wall at this point.
He said February 2014 is looking most likely at this point. If that happens, they're screwing themselves on Lightning Returns...
Oh, Square.
Why get our hopes up and repeatedly say it's coming 2013, put it up for pre-order, limited edition, etc.
Fuck you SE
Could just be for Europe.
I'm surprised he said it outright, haha.
Potentially bad news, all: I just talked to a Square Enix rep here at PAX Prime about FF X/X-2 HD's release date and he flat out said it's not coming until 2014, "unless I'm REALLY lucky." That certainly isn't official confirmation of a delay, but it's looking more and more likely. I'd say the writing's on the wall at this point.
He said February 2014 is looking most likely at this point. If that happens, they're screwing themselves on Lightning Returns...
Oh, Square.
I thought we get news on sunday? It says theres an ff event on sunday! If its 2014... well thats dumb. Japan gets it first again!
Square Enix has a presence at PAX Prime. Pretty sure the FF event is for FFXIV launch.
so we wont get X related today, but sunday?
Could just be for Europe.
Iamcry..I have a feeling it's just for the west. JP release in December. NA/EU in February.
No surprise. It's been obvious for weeks.
I have a feeling it's just for the west. JP release in December. NA/EU in February.
No surprise. It's been obvious for weeks.