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[Hobbun]

I love it! I cant wait, so i guess this is also a fall release.

Highly doubt it.

Try more like a winter release, holiday season most likely.

 

[Zoe]

There are probably rendering parts of the code written at a low level for PS2 that's easier to just toss aside and rewrite, for example. Heck, anything written in assembler would have to be rewritten anyway. I imagine all PS2 HD remasters do that at times.

That quote doesn't seem to be talking about code.

Not like reverse engineering the code isn't a problem in itself though.

 

[Dreamer RD]

Never really understood the complaints about awful acting for the laughing scene.

I never understood the issue with the laughter scene either.

Not an issue. Just a stupid scene in overall great game.
The real crap is lighting evasion mini game and butterfly catching.

 

[Ixion]

I played FFX a handful of times before first visiting gaming forums around 2005, and I never thought anything of the laughing scene. Then I learned it's the anti-christ.

The real crap is lightning evasion mini game and chocobo racing.

Fixed.

The butterfly catching is fine because it's all down to your memory. The chocobo racing is all luck, which makes it frustrating.

 

[Dragon]

Never really understood the complaints about awful acting for the laughing scene. So it sounds awkward and forced? Well it's meant to sound awkward and forced. Those that think otherwise should take a good look at their comprehension skills.

Yes it's still weird even if it is deliberate, but I'd take several laughing scenes over a massive part of what we recieved in FFX-2

I'm not a fan of FFX-2 either but the laughing scene really doesn't make sense. I can understand Tidus getting angsty over his father (who wouldn't in his situation). As much as I enjoyed the game I had a ton of problems with most of the characters. Auron is the real star of the game for me and sacrifices just as much as Tidus.

 

[Ixion]

the laughing scene really doesn't make sense.

Why not?

 

[ponpo]

That's harsh! I've already expressed my decision to not go for plat in this game...

I just want to get those rewards earlier when they'll be more useful. Obviously if it turns out to be too much of a pain without No Encounter, I'll not bother

EDIT: Saying that a trophy would be nice. Usually I lose count of what I've done so I estimate. Therefore I end up doing around 220-240 just to make sure. A trophy to tell me I've done 200 would be great.

As long as it's called Lightning Returns.

 

[badcrumble]

Dodging lightning without No Encounters is an incredible pain. Seriously, don't do it.

 

[Dragon]

Why not?

Because people don't act like that. It's just bizarre.

 

[KtSlime]

Because people don't act like that. It's just bizarre.

Anime/manga characters act that way.

 

[khaaan]

Because people don't act like that. It's just bizarre.

I wouldn't say it's that strange, the series has had a number of wtf moments in the past but I think this one sticks out because of the voicing in that specific segment.

 

[Erigu]

Tidus sounds like someone in his early twenties pretty much consistently throughout the whole game. I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not sure how you could fail to notice that his voice was a lot deeper during the narration.
By his own admission, the voice actor was trying to play an older Tidus for those lines. Despite the fact he'd only be a few weeks older, tops, plot-wise.

 

[Ixion]

Because people don't act like that. It's just bizarre.

I just thought it was quirky, dorky humor, which fit Tidus' personality. And I feel it made sense because he was just doing what he could to keep Yuna happy while she was under so much pressure.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

The laughing scene...well...it's kinda funny because it's sooooo bad and I can't imagine X without it.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Is like half this thread about that damn laughing scene? I thought most people agreed it was awkward and left it at that.

 

[Black Door]

Is like half this thread about that damn laughing scene? I thought most people agreed it was awkward and left it at that.

And they're intentionally missing/ignoring the dialogue immediately before/after it to fuel their "English voice acting sucks"/"scripting in modern FF sucks" agendas

 

[Dark Schala]

The butterfly catching is fine because it's all down to your memory. The chocobo racing is all luck, which makes it frustrating.

That is perhaps true for you.

I, and quite a few people I know, had issues with it because the butterflies are actually hard to see. They blend into the background too much.

 

[Ixion]

That is perhaps true for you.

I, and quite a few people I know, had issues with it because the butterflies are actually a hard to see. They blend into the background too much.

Well, hopefully the new HD visuals help you out.

 

[Aurizen]

I look forward to getting more news.

 

[Kagari]

I wonder if it's Hexadrive...

That would be ideal.

 

[badcrumble]

What has Hexadrive done again?

 

[Kagari]

What has Hexadrive done again?

Okami HD.

 

[badcrumble]

Okami HD.

Ah. Yeah, they did a wonderful job on that.

Here's hoping FFXII doesn't have issues with source code being lost, though >_>

 

[RPGCrazied]

Okami HD is wonderful. Makes not having a physical copy that much more painful. Japan got it, but alas, NA didn't.

I'm glad this is getting a physical release. I like to have the boxes and discs.

 

[ubercheez]

Okami HD is wonderful. Makes not having a physical copy that much more painful. Japan got it, but alas, NA didn't.

I'm glad this is getting a physical release. I like to have the boxes and discs.

Yeah, I'm still sour about not having an Okami disc. Hexadrive did a fantastic job on it though.

 

[Shahed]

That is perhaps true for you.

I, and quite a few people I know, had issues with it because the butterflies are actually a hard to see. They blend into the background too much.

The Butterflies are hard to see. How I did it was just look at a map and match Tidus' movements to those. I never actually looked for Butterflies and that seemed to work and make the whole thing straightforward the few times I've done it. I far preferred it over chocobo ballons since there was no luck involved.

Saying that I'm now gonna have to relearn the timing due to the switch from 50Hz to 60Hz. Never mind it's been 8 years...

 

[demosthenes]

The Butterflies are hard to see. How I did it was just look at a map and match Tidus' movements to those. I never actually looked for Butterflies and that seemed to work and make the whole thing straightforward the few times I've done it. I far preferred it over chocobo ballons since there was no luck involved.

Saying that I'm now gonna have to relearn the timing due to the switch from 50Hz to 60Hz. Never mind it's been 8 years...

I couldn't do it, not sure if it was just difficult or the fact that I'm colored blind. I had a friend do it for me.

 

[Aurizen]

what are the source code? and since they are loss what does that mean?

 

[Shahed]

what are the source code? and since they are loss what does that mean?

Basically all the material they used for the original release. Without it you'll have to recreate content instead of altering what they already have

 

[Aurizen]

Basically all the material they used for the original release. Without it you'll have to recreate content instead of altering what they already have

so what does that mean for FFX HD and X-2 HD? will things in the game be different? maybe a bit better?

 

[ubercheez]

so what does that mean for FFX HD and X-2 HD? will things in the game be different? maybe a bit better?

There was no lost source code for FFX or X-2. The game that they lost the code for is FFVII, which would therefore have to be remade pretty much from scratch if a remake ever happened.

 

[alexein]

Except that the company that made mgs hd collection "Bluepoint" made it clear that they didnt need the code to make the hd collection they just used the disc release and didnt understand why the developpers that made silent hill hd collection didnt do the same and butchered the job.

 

[Shahed]

so what does that mean for FFX HD and X-2 HD? will things in the game be different? maybe a bit better?

Who knows? It all depends on how they go about making stuff. As Bluepoint have shown, they don't need the source code, they used the retail disc. But Silent Hill was a complete mess.

It all depends on how much effort and the method used, and from the looks of things there's nothing to worry about here. They've already replaced some textures and models that few HD remasters do.

 

[AuthenticM]

There was no lost source code for FFX or X-2. The game that they lost the code for is FFVII, which would therefore have to be remade pretty much from scratch if a remake ever happened.

Even if they still had the source code of VII, they would have to remake the game from scratch. An "HD" remake of the game wouldn't be all that great. Higher-resolution pre-rendered backgrounds ? The same pre-rendered background built on ancient tech ? Meh. Not interested.

 

[SolidSnakex]

The pre-rendered movies from the PS2 version will be upgraded to high-definition, and the sound quality has been enhanced. Characters and enemies have seen texture quality upgrades, too.

But how did Final Fantasy X HD Remaster‘s creation come about? It was when Square met with some of the voice actors again during the making of Final Fantasy Type-0 on PSP. Character designer Tetsuya Nomura negotiated with various people and the result was, “Ok, let’s do it!” But at the time, Square Enix staff members were devoted to the Final Fantasy XIII project, so it wasn’t possible right away.

Many questions have been raised surrounding the PS Vita version—mainly, “Why is it a dual release versus the PlayStation 3′s single release?” The answer to that is capacity. A PS Vita game card does not have enough space to hold both games.

Final Fantasy X | X-2 HD Remaster is currently 70 percent complete.

http://gematsu.com/2013/03/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-is-70-percent-complete

 

[Mario007]

http://gematsu.com/2013/03/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-is-70-percent-complete

Man I really hope they price the Vita versions at half the price of the PS3 version.

 

[Yanksfan]

Man I really hope they price the Vita versions at half the price of the PS3 version.

Ha! Good stuff.

 

[Seda]

I'm going to keep to OP updated until there's a significant update for a new thread. Everything should be there in the summary bullets.

 

[The Jason]

Some interesting details in this French translation of the Famitsu interview:
-Sound quality has been improved as the game will rely on streaming its music from the disc instead of using the console's sound chip. This doesn't mean that there are more live instruments recording (it could be though), but at the very least we'll get higher-quality synths.

This is good news, the OST is beautiful

 

[Mario007]

Ha! Good stuff.

Well if they are splitting them only due to the Vita card limitations it's possible. Then again they could have done a double pack, so I'm not holding my breath.

 

[AuthenticM]

http://gematsu.com/2013/03/final-fantasy-x-x-2-hd-remaster-is-70-percent-complete

Them upgrading the sound quality gives me hope that they would do the same should they ever produce an HD remaster of XII. This game needs to have its audio cleaned up.

 

[RurouniZel]

I'm excited for FFX HD, but not so much for X-2. :/ But I'd rather get it on PS3 anyway so I'll be getting the collection.

 

[Aurizen]

the interview said the vita version looks better than the ps3 version, how is that possible. OLED on a handheld? vs a tv screen with a powerful console.

 

[Kagari]

the interview said the vita version looks better than the ps3 version, how is that possible. OLED on a handheld? vs a tv screen with a powerful console.

They're talking about the vividness of the Vita's screen.

 

[Aurizen]

They're talking about the vividness of the Vita's screen.

still, I would expect the PS3 would be better honestly.

 

[Hobbun]

still, I would expect the PS3 would be better honestly.

I don't think you are really going to notice any subpar quality for your PS3 version, unless you bought the Vita version and played both at the same time. And the difference even then would probably be very minimal.

I wouldn't worry about it too much.

 

[duckroll]

Looks like Last Mission definitely isn't assured to be in the package. Apparently in the Dengeki Playstation interview with Kitase, he says that Last Mission is considered a different component from Final Fantasy X-2, so they're still deciding whether it will be included.

 

[Dreamer RD]

Looks like Last Mission definitely isn't assured to be in the package. Apparently in the Dengeki Playstation interview with Kitase, he says that Last Mission is considered a different component from Final Fantasy X-2, so they're still deciding whether it will be included.

Preorder cancelled.

 

[bigbaldwolf86]

Looks like Last Mission definitely isn't assured to be in the package. Apparently in the Dengeki Playstation interview with Kitase, he says that Last Mission is considered a different component from Final Fantasy X-2, so they're still deciding whether it will be included.

This will be very disappointing if it's not included. It may be considered a different componenet but it is still FFX-2 and should be included. Hopefully they see sense in localising this as well

 

[Shadow780]

$19.99 season pass.