Exentryk
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In June 2012, Wada said,
I guess he meant the engine being used full time to make a game. We know Versus was using the engine partially for the lightning.
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Final Fantasy XIII Versus outfit designer lists game as Final Fantasy XV (15)
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In June 2012, Wada said,
I guess he meant the engine being used full time to make a game. We know Versus was using the engine partially for the lightning.
throwawayname
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quit playing games with my heart
Not to mention Europe, games there also have a similar price range (roughly 70-90 dollars, though earlier on in this gen it was much worse). FF13 was around 90-100 dollars IIRC and they pushed almost as much copies as NA.
But yeah I agree, really hard to tell what will happen.
Psychological Intellect
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what game is that?This is really all that needs to be said.
If they can generate interest, they generate sales.
It doesn't matter if it's FFV or FFVersus. The "name change" stuff is meaningless.
I think things will be just fine.
zeopower6
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Japanese news sources brought it up before it came here. I wonder if someone from Square asked them to correct it after about a day of confusion.
Posts like yours make me self-conscious.
Didn't know and it could very well be; that would mean they didn't want the info to be leaked so early.
throwawayname
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I posted this in every Versus thread for the past 4 years.
zeopower6
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Well.... that latter part is unlikely since the bio has been up like that since at least summer of last year. It only caused issues now because it was brought to everyone's attention.
I am thinking whoever typed it up (some intern?) just goofed the name of the game.
Poetic.Injustice
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120 million dollars? Let's hope they didn't spend it all modelling belts and zippers.
Exentryk
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I feel the same. No big deal.
That is relieving I guess.
Endless
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Anyone can translate? http://www.roen.jp/information/shopinfo/biography-表記の誤りについて/
I think it says that has been just a typo.
I think it says that has been just a typo.
I don't buy the exclusivity rumours. If they appeal to the Xbox crowd more, then they can make the brand massive again in NA. Not to mention a project that costs 120m being exclusive? It would be like GTA 5 being an exclusive.
The series won't to return to the sales they used to do by being exclusive.
The series won't to return to the sales they used to do by being exclusive.
Except they haven't been working on it fulltime with a 200-man team for 7-8 years (try more like 4, at this point with all the FFXIIIs and XIVs they've had to help with that have halted development) and Nomura said in mid-2011 that the team had been quite small for a project of its size until that point. So yeah, not a 200 man team working on the game for 7-8 years. Probably something like 50 people working on it for 2,5-3 years and then they started building up the team size for the "full production" that began in Summer 2011, though was probably halted by XIV again....
kerotan_eater
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You know what I hate. Loving Team ICO games, Final Fantasy and Half Life.
The wait for these games have been ... excruciating. If E3 comes along and there is no release date (or announcement in HL3's case) for these games, I don't know what to believe in anymore.
The wait for these games have been ... excruciating. If E3 comes along and there is no release date (or announcement in HL3's case) for these games, I don't know what to believe in anymore.
All numbered Final Fantasy games' battle system is a spin on the turn-based battle system. When you look at it, the FFXIII battle system is not too different from ATB. Paradigm Shift is sort of like an addition to ATB, and the several changes are there to bring it to a modern level. Now, other things would include the disunion of physical and magical attacks, summons, common spells -- most of these are included in XI and XIV as well, but what makes the MMOs distinct (besides the core battle system not being a spin on turn-based combat), comes on things related to the story; they are more open ended and unfocused; not that this is a bad thing -- they have an excellent lore -- but it's too big a differentiation point. FFXIII, like the rest offline Final Fantasy games has a special focus on characters, a define plot, dramatic elements and so on. Sure, game design-wise (and arguably story quality-wise), it's not the best thing Square Enix has ever created, but that's not what we're discussing.
Also, indeed, many of these elements are common among JRPGs, anyway. But where does this "every jrpg ever made is FF at heart" come from? Do other RPGs' non mechanics-related elements compare to Final Fantasy? Besides the story and character themes explored in numbered Final Fantasy games, there are also certain design elements exclusive to FF. Chocobos, crystals, traditional spells, shared myths and summons, you name it. And don't forget art direction -- Final Fantasy's style is distinctively Japanese, but it has a universal appeal. Compare that to Tales or Star Ocean, and I think you'll know what I'm talking about.
It's a combination of things really. I think most Final Fantasy games will remind of Final Fantasy as they are. Square Enix has to sort of realize this formula, modernize and change it as needed and optimize it to fit with what they want to make.
Psycho_Mantis
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FF was a bigger brand before this generation when it was exclusive. What matters is how much Square will lose if they did not put it on Xbox. The majority of FF sales this gen have been from PS and if Sony decides to money hat then subsidizing those missing sales would be enough for Square to release it as exclusive.
Also, no FF does not need to be on Xbox to become massive again. It just needs to be good. PS3 base is large enough to allow growth even if it was exclusive and we do not know how popular next gen consoles will be in each region yet.
FFVersus was touted as a PS3 exclusive and even after 5 years no other platforms were mentioned.
I think it mostly depends on Sony and if they want to money hat.
Viola of the Abyss
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Yes, they're just saying that they're sorry for the mistake and the usual stuff...
Typo... heh...
I would have been more inclined to believe them if it was something like XIII Versus -> XV.
But before it was written in numbers as 15, so there is no way this was a simple mistake.
The game has been rebranded internally as Final Fantasy XV since last June at least.
That is perfectly believable.
angels.phillipe
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True history..a lot of thing have changed.
Assuming the game is current gen, Square are going to ignore a market of 77m? If the game is next gen, The Xbox brand is only going to get bigger, if they ignore that then they're incredibly stupid.
or are they trying to save face? lol
DiipuSurotu
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That's one hell of a typo.
KojiKnight
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First rule if you let a secret slip, you deny the secret exists.
You don't go "Oh whoops, guess you found out! Yeah we totally doing clothing designs for a new numbered final fantasy that hasn't been announced yet."
thats what I thought too.
Viola of the Abyss
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The Jason
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This sounds like a good solution, after all Type-0 was initially Final Fantasy Agito-XIII. And the name is cool sounding enough
Whatever it is we all just hope it comes out
Lagspike_exe
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And how did you calculate that?
Viola of the Abyss
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If I'm not mistaken Tabata also recently said that Type-1 would have been on home consoles if possible.
That would be cool, but I'm not sure I can see that happening.
The Type brand as of now is exclusive for Japan, if they rename Versus to that releasing it in the west as Type-1 would be weird. (Better than Type-2 of course)
Unless they finally decide to release officially Type-0...
The publisher gets $30 for each copy sold full price, I believe this is well known.
That's actually a little generous, publishers get between $26 and $28 per full priced unit sold, so I rounded to $30 for ease and whatever random DLC there's bound to be, and I multiplied it by four.
Aryllies was already proven to be full of shit by claiming to be in japan when social media profiles show him in france
Viola of the Abyss
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I believe that the above rumored $120M is including the estimated remaining dev time and marketing.
It wouldn't make any sense to cut any additional funding unless the game is complete otherwise.
That's not what it says:
Surpassed, so already spent. And SE are funding no more, so no more development, and no marketing budget. Which is obviously not the case.
Viola of the Abyss
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The budget has surpassed $120M, not the spending.
That means that S-E allocated more than $120M to be spent on the game.
Rumor posts are not to be taken literally though, things can be easily lost or misunderstood in communication and translation.
EDIT: As you say it wouldn't make any sense otherwise.
Thamauturge
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Is this always for the best though? I remember once I was watching the FF Versus XIII 2011 trailer and someone behind me saw it and was literally like "Wow, what game is that?!" I told him it was FF Versus XIII and he said, "But I thought FF was always turn based? This game looks amazing"
The beauty of this series is that there is something in it for everyone. FF has been all over the place; ARPG, SRPG, Shooter, Fighting, etc. I love the fact that each one has variety. And if any team can save the FF name it would be the team behind KH1 and KH2.
Manmademan
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considering games like Dragon's Dogma and FFXII, we're running out of reasons to keep JRPGs turn based other than "because we've always done it that way."
changing up the status quo is inevitable. wouldn't be surprised if versus is another move in that direction.
That's true, it just seems very unlikely to me. Not just because it's a lot, it's not that much for a 'AAA' game including marketing, but if it's an exclusive, Sony has to be footing a very large percentage of that bill, there's no way SE would make it exclusive to PS4 for nothing, and I can't imagine it makes sense for Sony to bankroll a game that really isn't going to benefit them much at all.
Viola of the Abyss
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I too believe that $120M is way too much, especially considering how S-E works with small teams (relatively to western 700-800 people AAA dev teams at least).
Unless that sum is comprehensive of everything (marketing, development, production, and all else) and someone else (Sony to keep it exclusive?) contributed heavily I don't believe it to be true.
Exentryk
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Links please. He actually has proven that he is in Japan with an image that I can pm you if you want.
the debate of whether or not it was a typo rages on! At this point, just gunna wait till e3. They showed Noctis perfume, now someone discovers this, then there's the whole Kotaku Versus bs inside source stuff about development being folded over to FF15, and the CEO of Square said we've got the next installment to FF to show you at E3...I'm just going to assume all of the above will actually come to fruition at some point...and if the CEO says e3, then it will be e3.
Green Mamba
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All hail the homogenization of the modern gaming world.
RPGCrazied
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Why is it called Versus XIII anyway? It doesn't use the same characters or world. I'm fine with it being renamed to XV, long as it releases. Since we waited so long, it should worldwide release this holiday.
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