Adaptive resolution which basically ran almost 100% in 720p could not hold 900p 95% of the time
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Final Fantasy XV Switch hinted
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Adaptive resolution which basically ran almost 100% in 720p could not hold 900p 95% of the time
Gotdatmoney
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Yes, that's what downporting entails.
We aren't talking about what gaf wants here. We are talking about whether they can do it and yes they obviously can.
I don't disagree with you, the game is going to have to be cut back more than just resolution given how it runs on consoles. But not all cutbacks are made equal. If the goal is to have a faithful recreation of the game in portable mode they may be willing to chop it up.
I assume that SE will chop it up but I also think it's likely that the game will be neither pocket edition or the full version and just something FF15 related. Given the way the stream described it, it's not understood what it will be.
They definitely have plans, but you have to go through that planning stage before you can announce a game. I don't understand why people are finding this difficult to understand. Evidence of this is that they just announced this Pocket version out of nowhere and its nearly ready! By some people's logic they would have announced months ago as soon as they decided to make it. In fact its great that SE are not blowing their load early and announcing things the moment they're conceived like they used to!
MetalliCabombination
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Hmm... Sounds more like its just some ffxv universe game.
I'm torn. No matter what SquEnix does, I am not content. Thus, I feel guilty.
On one hand, more software is undeniably good, even if it doesn't cater to me (and FFXV -pocket or otherwise- sure as heck doesn't) - but I'd much rather have something small, quirky and unique (and with support for local multiplayer).
Porting over a huge-ass bloated singleplayer roadtrip thingamadingdong with photorealistic food items (or its inbred portable app cousin) just doesn't strike me as a good business opportunity. Then again, better than nothing. Gah.
Still dreaming of a resurrection of the "My Life As A ______" or vanilla FFCC series sequel...
On one hand, more software is undeniably good, even if it doesn't cater to me (and FFXV -pocket or otherwise- sure as heck doesn't) - but I'd much rather have something small, quirky and unique (and with support for local multiplayer).
Porting over a huge-ass bloated singleplayer roadtrip thingamadingdong with photorealistic food items (or its inbred portable app cousin) just doesn't strike me as a good business opportunity. Then again, better than nothing. Gah.
Still dreaming of a resurrection of the "My Life As A ______" or vanilla FFCC series sequel...
Agreed. It's probably cheap to add another platform to an already considerably multiplat release.
Windows 10 means it is on the Windows app store specifically. Not Steam or Origin.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I'm confident that if they want to do it they can do it. Because we have had down porting and different levels of visuals since the inception of gaming. It doesn't matter if you don't like the argument. That's the reality.
And DQH2 was a poor launch port, you know if they wanted to they could improve it.
The more I think about it though, the more I'm inclined to think this wont be FF15 pocket or full edition. Given the whole extended universe stuff I think it'll be something else.
MetalliCabombination
Member
I dont actually. Maybe its rushed maybe its not.
Point is we wont know until we see something as complex running well on it.
I think this might well be true, but...
... I am having fun reading the posts of people saying the Switch 'couldn't possibly' handle a port of XV. What on Earth is there in the game that people think would be impossible to carry over, aside from an obvious graphical downgrade? Xenoblade Chronicles has been made to run on n3DS, for crying out loud.
I was waiting for the PC version, but if a Switch version did appear on the horizon, I might sacrifice graphics for the ability to play in bed.
No, I can say that it's rushed because the very same studio is doing another musou game that isn't actually rushed, releasing this year and it's looking vastly better than DQH2.
Yeah but devs dont bother with downports which cost so much and so troublesome to make they dont even bother with it since the inception of gaming too, especially with nintendo plattforms.
So thats a pointless argument in this context to begin with.
Sparrowhawk
Member
It's listed as "Windows Edition" on Steam, as well.
Robin64
Member
That's different to Pocket Edition which lists Windows 10 as a platform.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
Remember all the people who said it was impossible.
I like FF XV and I could actually kinda dig the Pocket Edition if the charactres weren't so ugly. Not a big chibi fan to begin with but these models are extra ugly.
To be fair......a system that cant run GTA 5, Persona 5 or FF XIII obv. would also have some mayor issues with running FFXV, no matter how much downgrading and optimization it involves.
Wireframe
Member
Came to post this. It's happening guys.
That was before we saw Pocket Edition.
Deadpool_X
Banned
Didn't they already say this isn't happening, and that the Switch couldn't even possibly run the game(even though they'd never touched a Switch)?
Im sure its gonna be a special polished version only for switch with more features then even the maingame, like DQ XI!
They probably meant while looking visually pleasing.
Gotdatmoney
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Eh, downports happen if they think they can make money off of it. Enter CoD on the Wii. Enter TitanFall and Rise of the Tomb Raider on the 360. Again, not sure what you're getting at.
Yes, so why argue with the technology?
You can also port star citizen to switch, ok. whats the point of this statment? The main argument here is that is so bothersome to scale down something like FF XV on switch which goes beyond the proclaimed "just put the resulution down lol". It also dont make sense to compare switch with wii or xbox 360 in its final years with a base where switch has not even 1/10 of it currently
Oh I thought he was talking about the Pocket Edition. My bad!
Robin64
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But those are all on PS3?
At least three goats and a virgin, imo.
VyechnayaSlava
Member
Ummmmm, WHAT?! There's no way that Switch couldn't EASILY handle any of those
Dark Cloud
Member
What?
Gotdatmoney
Member
Ah, I said it's technologically possible and you said they wont bother if it costs too much. I'm only refuting that by saying its, not about how much it costs, it's about how much it will make if they do it. Anyway, this is a pointless discussion with you because we simply don't see eye to eye here. Let's wait and see what it is.
What was the so far most graphically/technically demanding game that was actually downported from PS4/Xbox One/PC to Switch?
I mean, I really can't imagine how the Switch could be able to run a game like FFXV on its tablet, the size of the world, the highly detailed character models, the animations and physics... But there's lots of people who say in these types of threads that it would definitely be possible. Any precedents of this?
I mean, I really can't imagine how the Switch could be able to run a game like FFXV on its tablet, the size of the world, the highly detailed character models, the animations and physics... But there's lots of people who say in these types of threads that it would definitely be possible. Any precedents of this?
ArchedThunder
Banned
The Switch could probably handle the game just fine with lower poly counts, some lower res textures, PS3 style hair and slightly downgraded lighting and shadowing. It wouldn't look quite as good as the PS4 version, but it'd be very similar.
Some of you are so dramatic.
Some of you are so dramatic.
I mean, before you call out other people speculating stuff that is unannounced and unconfirmed for being dramatic, consider for a moment that you yourself don't know what is going to happen, and could be wrong in your speculation. If the Pocket Edition is indeed being considered as a foundation for the development of the Switch game in the next year or so, your aggressive tone will look pretty dumb in retrospect.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Aggressive tone? I don't know what you're talking about.
There are people LITERALLY saying it's impossible to port the PS4 version to Switch.
ArkhamFantasy
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People aren't forgetting about the game though, there's a new thread about it every day.
Type in Final Fantasy XV and FFXV into the search bar and see how many threads pop up, its kind of amazing.
Interestingly you are dramatically overestimating Switch's graphical capabilities. But we'll see when either a specialist Switch version, or the Pocket Edition comes to Switch.
They can just downgrade the graphics and geometry just like they did to get it running on PS4/XB1.
Not saying it won't be a lot of work, but there probably isn't much keeping it from running on Switch outside of the graphics.
If it is the Pocket version, if they have a proper battle system for the Switch version I wouldn't mind the graphics much(although I would prefer that they toned down the SD to 3/4DS levels).
ArchedThunder
Banned
Uh, no, I'm not. I literally said how they could downgrade it on most visual fronts to make it work on the system.
It could be pretty impossible depending on the state of the Luminous Studio engine right now. It was a struggle to get the game out on existing platforms as it is. The PC version is coming out more than a year later, and the Switch was never part of the consideration when the tech was being built. Impossible doesn't always mean technically impossible, it could also mean that the amount of effort required to implement that is beyond the value of the project.
Okay but lets say they downgraded the character models to a bit better than PS3 (which is the Switch's level) then you've also got a massive open world which the PS3 generation would have struggled with, so you'd have really obvious draw distances, and you'd have to limit the number of objects on screen.
There's a point where the compromises stop it being a sellable game, and thats why people are saying Switch can't get a downgraded version.
Plus if it was possible to make a game on Switch, do you not think the game would have been cross-gen in the first place? They would have made a ton more money that way.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Difficult? Sure. Impossible? No.
If you think it'd be impossible I don't know what to tell you other than you're wrong. People are really overselling the difficulty here.