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First Tomb Raider Review out in the wild - Embargo up on Monday 02/25
- Thread starter NotTheGuyYouKill
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They just skew reality to meet their needs. With the new Tomb Raider, old fans have already decided this is shit, so good reviews = moneyhats and bad reviews = vindication. Same every week round these parts!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Haha yup.
It is so awful. If that had been a scathing paragraph on the numerous problems they had with the game I would probably walk away with a more positive view of the potential of this installment than reading that drivel.
I H8 Memes
Member
Its a game dude, your suppose to be a rich spoilt brat in far cry 3, yet your a killing machine within 10 minutes.
Those risks came from clunky controls not because it was a grand master piece of gaming.
Subtle and Nuanced? You do realize we're talking about Tomb Raider here?
Still very much true, sadly.
PinkCrayon
Member
Very brave of them to lift the embargo a week before release, they must have confidence in it.
Yeah I know right, this reboot story is the opposite of that. Good thing I clarified what I meant earlier with the original Tomb Raider not having having those elements, but not doing what this one is doing.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Probably a good idea. The game looks like everything game critics look for in games, and the high scores will go a long way in quelling the people who want a Tomb Raider game.
You're arguing that in a series where you visit Area 51 and fight Dinosaurs has subtly and nuanced.
NullPointer
Member
That it does.
sublimit
Banned
I think by "subtly" he meant that the story never got in the way of gameplay in the old games.Unlike what seems to be the case in this reboot.
You're arguing that in a series where you visit Area 51 and fight Dinosaurs has subtly and nuanced.
From the previous page, my last post was a snarky retort because you didn't read my previous posts.
Hell if it's good I'll be the first one to admit it.
clifftrapremover
Member
Whoa this game actually snuck up on me, wasn't expecting it to be out in just a week really. I've never been a Tomb Raider fan so I guess this reboot is targeted towards me. The complaints that it looks like Uncharted are valid and a good thing in my book, I enjoyed the Uncharted games a lot and would love to see another team take a spin on that style of game.
Hated old Hitman games but like the new one, if new Tomb Raider is good, don't mind it not being like older ones. I know fans would mind, but it is what it is.
Never care about reviews, but at least I can assume it's not an awful broken mess or something. If other reviews follow suit, I'll probably get it for $10-15 down the line.
Never care about reviews, but at least I can assume it's not an awful broken mess or something. If other reviews follow suit, I'll probably get it for $10-15 down the line.
ambientmystic
Member
Lol, that 'review' is a barely disguised PR lovefest written by someone who got paid by an outfit like MCV.
LW is that you?
LW is that you?
Game journalism isn't very good, I give you that, but the cynical attitudes of many gamers are much more annoying. The reactions in these review threads are always the same:
- Is it a game gamers are looking forward to and have high hopes for?
-> Great scores are going to be celebrated, reviewers who rate low only want to generate clicks.
- Is it a game gamers are skeptical about?
-> Low scores are being celebrated, high scores are dismissed as being paid for.
Really, it's like reviews are only means to confirm your own bias nowadays.
Of course, it aren't always the same people who complain, but it's still something that makes these threads hard to read.
Do you think over the top negativity at every whim adds a sense of mystique and credibility?
Just wondering, since being overtly negative appears to be your modus operandi.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Is there any reason why people want this to be a wreck?
It would be hysterical if it was her.
It is what the cool kids these days do. Nothing more, and nothing less.
GTAIV is the highest rated game of this generation. I personally wouldn't even force my enemies to play that game.
Reviews haven't meant jack shit for quite some time.
The chief reason is that it isn't like the old games. Then there are the people that just plain hate cinematic, set-piece driven action games.
NullPointer
Member
The PR makes it seem like a wreck. A wreck with high production values and over the top executions and fiery explosions, but hey, many people here seem to desire exactly that.
And here we go.
Ok, how exactly does this help your argument again?
Your argument is the new Tomb Raider is not a "actual tomb raider game "
Your support for this argument is
So you admit that the old games are not subtle and nuanced so why is it a huge deal now that the reboot doesn't either?
So their is more cut scenes, that it? How dare they try to weave a cohesive narrative. If you don't like the cut scenes, then skip them and enjoy the game. You can play most modern games without watching the cut scenes anyways.
Getting angry because a bland mediocre series gets rebooted to something that might be better is just silly.
The marketing for this hasn't been too good. It seems like they were trying to target the action-loving Uncharted crowd and mostly showed combat, action-sequences and cutscenes and the ones who are bashing it now are mainly people who liked either the TR classics or Crystal's previous TRs (or both if that's possible) and think this is too much of a change. They're mostly just focusing on the bad stuff, though. We know it's not all shooting and scripted action but they usually choose to ignore that when you try to tell them.
Thank god the embargo is up a week before release.
At least this way I'll have a chance to cancel my pre-order if the reviews are overwhelmingly negative (which I don't think they will be).
I'd hate to see another debacle like Aliens, where there was a clear reason for a release day embargo.
At least this way I'll have a chance to cancel my pre-order if the reviews are overwhelmingly negative (which I don't think they will be).
I'd hate to see another debacle like Aliens, where there was a clear reason for a release day embargo.
Because the marketing and developer are taking pride in a haphazard, not nuanced, not cohesive story. My point is if you're going to have a story driven game, it better not be sloppy drivel.
I think it's the majority of cinematic shit that'll worsen the flow of gameplay. I can already see there will be a lot of that , probably a ton of it before we get to actually 'Take control' and explore the island and do things.
Going by the preview videos Lara can't go one step without falling over a cliff or falling 300 ft and then into a river and then into a plane and then into a cliff side and then parachuting.
NullPointer
Member
Out of curiosity, what do you expect the core gameplay in this reboot to be? Cut-scenes and cohesive narrative aside, what do you expect to spend the majority of the time doing in this game? And how is that 'better'?
ebullientprism
Member
I am sure the gaming press will love it. Tons of scripted events, easy effortless platforming, "cool" executions, tons of collectibles etc. Like AC etc its a game that checks all the boxes that most reviewers love.
I would eat my hat (if I had one) if it ends up lower than 85 on Metacritic.
Whether its a good game or not, will wait to see impressions from other forumites.
I would eat my hat (if I had one) if it ends up lower than 85 on Metacritic.
Whether its a good game or not, will wait to see impressions from other forumites.
Raitosaito
Member
Watch the monastery gameplay vid.
After hearing "We love explosions and we have a lot of it.." I was out.
After hearing "We love explosions and we have a lot of it.." I was out.
Mithos
Member
Awesome, the way it always should be.
Have you played the game in its entirety? How can you sit here judge the story of the game without reading the full plot synopsis?
Marketing is a tool to sell games, not to provide a accurate depiction of what the game actually is. Look at Dead Island, that game was marketed as emotion driven zombie game and what we got was well... Dead Island.
A combination of climbing in a pseudo sandbox and combat. I won't sit here and judge Tomb Raider and how it compares to the other games in the series. I would rather judge it as a game and leave behind and preconceived notions of what the game is supposed to be like.
ChimpanzeeThat
Member
I'm expecting a 80+ score on Metacritic from this game, so this score doesn't surprise me.
It's problematic in that game as well and critics brought it up.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
World Exclusive Review comes with a good score.
Shocking News.
Shocking News.
An injured and average teenage girl who we're supposed to view as inexperienced is going to murder hundreds of dudes. There wouldn't be as much dissonance if she raided more tombs instead of murdering people.
Best way to save the story is if Lara gets the death penalty, you find out she's just insane and has been killing Hawaiian tourists the entire time.
WORLDWIDEWII
Member
good score
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Im going to wait on gaf for this one..and I dont wait on gaf for any game this one is just too suspect for me.
IGN loves using their decimals, so it will be 9.2 or 9.3. The rest I can agree with.
I think I made a bet somewhere some months ago that this game will have a metacritic of 85 or higher; that's because one can predict where a "AAA" game will land on the metacritic up to 2-3 years in advance with a huge percentage of accuracy. Reviews are not critical assessments of games anymore. They're generally paid advertisements.
I'm with you man. This and Resident Evil.
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