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[Razgreez]

But wax said... Come on now it's early days. Mclaren used to make huge turnarounds in the early 00's all the way through till 2012 (not back of the grid to front but at least midfield to race winner if not front runner)

 

[Ark]

But wax said... Come on now it's early days. Mclaren used to make huge turnarounds in the early 00's all the way through till 2012 (not back of the grid to front but at least midfield to race winner if not front runner)

The question isn't really about McLaren's ability, but more so whether or not the Honda PU can facilitate the level of improvement the team needs.

 

[Theorry]

F1 2017: New-Look Cars In Action in Barcelona

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjjHqcIEh6Q

Yes from the official channel even.

 

[Mastah]

"The G forces are definitely higher. The load on the drivers is a considerable amount more than before. It is a lot more physical.

"I was always trying to pick up the speed through the corners and you have to drive a little bit different. It is a beast. It is so much better than last year."

"Normally you have a lot of degradation in these tyres but these ones don't," he said. "But there is not a lot of performance at the beginning of the tyre. They are very consistent, hard tyres. There is not a big difference from early on to later. There is a bit of a drop-off but not massive."

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/39103411

 

[Zeknurn]

Sounds like Pirelli has succeeded in making the tyres that people wanted. It's going to be interesting to see if makes for better racing.

 

[krang]

Yes and I and others have shown that this year they have taken a different approach to testing staying on harder tyres no silly time on softer tyres. We are trying to show you that they're aren't following the trend

And yet, despite the different approach, they're close to the top of the time sheets. Arguably ahead when you factor in tyre choice. I never pointed out why they were towards the top, only that they were, and that is a trait of their testing over the past few years.

Pointing out that fact didn't require you to get all sensitive about it. Seriously - what's the problem? What did I say that was worth telling me what I was saying was "shit"? Are you really that sensitive about people's opinions of Ferrari, because if that's the case I'd advise you stay out of this and all other F1 threads.

 

[DrM]

Lewis

“Today is really just about ticking off the list, all the checkpoints with the car, and getting mileage for reliability. In the days to come we’ll start to improve the car.”

Bottas

“The lap time we don’t really care about – we are doing the lap count and mileage,”
“We did more than a race distance, which is good for the first morning, and everything was working good. In the second week, it’s going to be much more interesting in terms of where we are compared to the others.”

 

[Deadman]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/39103411

All sounds promising so far.

 

[Mastah]

 

[JadedWriter]

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And Hamilton will still be faster than Alonso's car.

 

[Zaru]

That Sauber top speed can't be right...

 

[BigAl1992]

What's up with Sauber? That's REALLY slow. It's almost like Eriksson coasted through the speed trap.

 

[Zaru]

Sauber realized they have a Brawn-level car and put on more sandbags than Mercedes did in the last 3 years combined

 

[Zeknurn]

Sauber is running their car in miles not km.

 

[Aiii]

What's up with Sauber? That's REALLY slow. It's almost like Eriksson coasted through the speed trap.

They run last years engine, and a cheap chassis. Not that surprising, especially this year with the big engine developments. Running a 2016 engine was a mistake.

 

[BigAl1992]

They run last years engine, and a cheap chassis. Not that surprising, especially this year with the big engine developments. Running a 2016 engine was a mistake.

I know both points, but even then, we're talking a gap of 60 km/h at least to the McLaren, and that was due to a fault with the oil tank, and around 90 km/h to the Red Bull. That's a major performance gap. Even Manor were close to the back of the grid last year, and they were more Minardi than Mercedes.

 

[Mastah]

That's some sort of glitch or cruising well before first corner. GP3 cars are 50 kph faster than this.


Fred:

I would like to apologise to fans of last five or six years for the horrible cars

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/f1/faster-raw-and-physical-f1

 

[ramparter]

From former F1 engineer, how lap times can be affected during testing:



Amount of fuel - 2.7s
DRS on/off - 0.8s
Difference between tyre compounds - 2.2s
Time of day - 0.6s

McLaren running with DRS on, light fuel and ultrasoft obviously.

 

[Google]

Guys,

I'm going to get back on the F1 bandwagon.

I need suggestions for sites/blogs to follow to keep up to date with all the politicking (which is more fun than the racing at times).

Thanks,

Google.

 

[BigAl1992]

That's some sort of glitch or cruising well before first corner. GP3 cars are 50 kph faster than this.


Danny Ric:

Nope, that was Alonso.

 

[Mastah]

Ah, fixed.

 

[Ark]

Guys,

I'm going to get back on the F1 bandwagon.

I need suggestions for sites/blogs to follow to keep up to date with all the politicking (which is more fun than the racing at times).

Thanks,

Google.

The only website you need.

It's worth following Scarbs on Twitter too.

F1 Fanatic has loads of great picture dumps (and great content too)

Will Buxton's blog is pretty good. I only ever go to Reddit r/F1 when I'm bored because the fanboy bullshit in there drives me insane. I'll be the first to admit that I am an absolute snob when it comes to F1 news, most media outlets just treat the sport as a boys racing game.

 

[brotkasten]

Guys,

I'm going to get back on the F1 bandwagon.

I need suggestions for sites/blogs to follow to keep up to date with all the politicking (which is more fun than the racing at times).

Thanks,

Google.

I really like gpupdate.net. They have a race calendar, clock for the race start that let's you switch it to your local time and driver and team points all on the right side of the main page. The also live blog the weekends, in case that you can't watch it.

 

[Google]

The only website you need.

Man...Autosport, eh?

My Dad used to (maybe still does?) subscribe to Autosport magazine. He had hundreds of the things sitting around the house in the 90's and 00's.

I used to like the little cartoon F1 drivers with the big heads. What was that called?

 

[Klocker]

Damn the new cars look so bad ass

 

[Ark]

Man...Autosport, eh?

My Dad used to (maybe still does?) subscribe to Autosport magazine. He had hundreds of the things sitting around the house in the 90's and 00's.

I used to like the little cartoon F1 drivers with the big heads. What was that called?

Idk about the magazine, but I've only ever read the stuff they put on their website. I even bought a subscription so I could read their Autosport Plus stuff.

If you want decent, unbiased F1 news, you'll get it from Autosport. They're one of the few places that will give you that.

The only downside of Autosport is Gary Anderson.

 

[Juicy Bob]

I used to like the little cartoon F1 drivers with the big heads. What was that called?

I think you're referring to the late Jim Bamber's old cartoons.

 

[DrM]

I
The only downside of Autosport is Gary Anderson.

And that forum of theirs

Also, same news are also on Motorsport, which is something normal, because Motorsport acquired Autosport...

 

[Google]

I think you're referring to the late Jim Bamber's old cartoons.

Yeah. Those. I'd love reading those as a kid.

Thanks for the link - I'll spend some time looking over these today.

 

[nekkid]

Guys,

I'm going to get back on the F1 bandwagon.

I need suggestions for sites/blogs to follow to keep up to date with all the politicking (which is more fun than the racing at times).

Thanks,

Google.

F1Fanatic for me. It's independent, fun and full of great content.

 

[Zeknurn]

This youtube stream is showing a bunch of footage from the test. With over 4k viewers I imagine it won't last long.

 

[Psychotext]

Any analysis of the cars out there yet?

 

[John_B]

I can recommend Mark Hughes. He writes some quality articles. His race reviews are superb, they really give you a good understanding of why the races happened they way they did.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/author/mark-hughes

 

[Aiii]

Watching the videos shot on Sky now, these cars are amazing. Love them so much.

 

[dubc35]

This youtube stream is showing a bunch of footage from the test. With over 4k viewers I imagine it won't last long.

Nice! Ted's notebook is on now!

 

[Zaru]

Nice! Ted's notebook is on now!

Why does Toto look like he aged a few years over the winter break?

 

[Aiii]

Why does Toto look like he aged a few years over the winter break?

-edit: no, that was Horner, getting my team bosses mixed up.

 

[Zaru]

Hah, even Ted is calling it the Pingu nose.

Newey is saying Red Bull is trying to keep the aero simple at the beginning to properly understand the flow, BEFORE putting all the aero appendages on
So yeah they are coming.

 

[Theorry]

Newey section was pretty good.

 

[brotkasten]

I loved Toto's reaction when Ted told him that Nico basically dumped him.

"... You know, I never saw it that way. [...] Now you put something into my head."

 

[Aiii]

Hah, even Ted is calling it the Pingu nose.

Newey is saying Red Bull is trying to keep the aero simple at the beginning to properly understand the flow, BEFORE putting all the aero appendages on
So yeah they are coming.

Loved Newey's insights, but yeah, that was really interesting. Getting well hyped to see what they can do.

 

[Satanic Saint]

If you want decent, unbiased F1 news, you'll get it from Autosport. They're one of the few places that will give you that.

I am afraid that is no longer the case. In October 2016, Motorsport.com bought Autosport. And the chairman of Motorsport.com is none other than Zak Brown. Yes the new CEO of McLaren Honda is also the chairman of the biggest motorsports news website. So lets see if the news remains unbiased or not.

 

[Ark]

I am afraid that is no longer the case. In October 2016, Motorsport.com bought Autosport. And the chairman of Motorsport.com is none other than Zak Brown. Yes the new CEO of McLaren Honda is also the chairman of the biggest motorsports news website. So lets see if the news remains unbiased or not.

I'm aware

I haven't seen anything from them that has made me doubt their neutrality though.

 

[Betta Lines]

Some great footage from Bozzy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFNZRxDe8c

 

[Shaneus]

Some great footage from Bozzy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFNZRxDe8c

Jesus christ these cars look good.

 

[f0rk]

Jesus christ these cars look good.

From behind especially

 

[scorcher59]

What up guise! came to see the progress on that Mclaren Peter P rocketsh...
OH...
Oh...





oh.

 

[brotkasten]

Some great footage from Bozzy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrFNZRxDe8c

It is soooo good to see and hear the cars back on track.

Less than a month from now, guys.

 

[Razgreez]

Any footage of cars following each other closely? They do seem very planted but I do hope they're at least able to follow each other without losing all front end grip leading to even longer processions

 

[Big Takeover]

Any footage of cars following each other closely? They do seem very planted but I do hope they're at least able to follow each other without losing all front end grip leading to even longer processions

Early impressions from a few drivers, including Hamilton, is that's it's not looking good. Unsurprising really, since the mandate was for better looking, and much faster. As happy as I am to see wide cars and tires back, I think it was very shortsighted of them to not address passing friendlier aero rules.

It certainly smells of old regime, and something Ross and company will have to clean up. Hopefully he can get that group of habitual feet draggers to not insist on a pre-summit summit for the summer summit where they're finally able to discuss rule changes for the betterment of the sport. Just fix things in a timely manner, pls.