Pharaoh 117
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And I thought T10 PR was bad before, but they are reaching new levels with FM5. It's one of those things you just can't wrap your head around.
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Forza 5 Showroom | New cars and details for Forza 5, ongoing reveals
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And I thought T10 PR was bad before, but they are reaching new levels with FM5. It's one of those things you just can't wrap your head around.
I bought the track and like it.
I put up this video, because it's simbin 2013.
right now, from the 3 pics we have of forza bathurst, as I said, color palette seems in my eyes is better on forza.
also, if simbin goes to implement time of day like you say, before implementing the rest of the fucking game, I think I wont buy anything else until they get their priorities straight...
turn10 may be more busy trying to man up for nextgen day 1 delivery than polyphony though....
Yeah, I really like how FM5 Bathurst looks compared to other games. The warmth captured is typical of the Central Tablelands NSW.
Undercover Opulent
Banned
I'm sure this game like most others will look better in motion.
Always does..
It's the grass too.
Somewhat more bafflingly, this seems to be the look that T10 are aiming for, because it's been their modus operandi since the first Forza game. Flat lighting (especially on foliage) and unrealistic colours. It's a shame because it's really stymying the technical aspects of the game. Even static lighting can look great (see: Gears of War 3) if the art is there to back it up.
TJP
Member
SimBin are a very small dev team with lots of different priorities from management requests to licence holder demands; the sim will remain in beta for a while yet but things are cooking nicely behind the scenes. As for the time of day changes - why do you think the car headlights are always on 8)
Anyway, back to discussing FM5 and more GSC 2013 for me.
well, the technical aspects of the game have nothing to do with our perception of what "good" colors are.
technical aspects are there, and from what we know they are damn fine.
1080p check
60hz check
v-sync check
new physics, better than forza 4 check
new sounds, better than forza 4 check
new system for ai check
new laser scanned tracks check
all the rest is just gravy. some sweet (or sour) gravy.
for now, and until things change in the future, best meat & potatoes dish is served by t10 for those interested.
Yet Prague looked worlds away from this.
I can't believe that Prague received all the focus to get a good showing at E3 to the detriment of the other circuits, but so far Laguna and Bathurst (OK, from just three images) don't even look in the same generation.
Alps I thought looked pretty good (ignoring the aliased car).
I was referring to the technical aspects of the graphics rather than the gameplay. Obviously how the game looks has no effect on how it handles, etc.
Vorg
Banned
With FM3 it was Camino Viejo and with FM4 Bernese Alps. They always pick a "crown jewel" track that seems to get a lot more attention than the others for some reason.
I know, but the gulf between them in FM5 seems very noticeable so far.
Devolution
Member
Why is this car driving backwards?
soundscream
Member
Both games are a step up from last generation. Having put many hours into many racers over last generation it's not even a question if they look better.
JackAubrey
Member
Racing circuits are pretty dull places on the whole. Great for gameplay, not great for showing off pretty graphics.
That's why each new Forza gets a fantasy track to show off the graphics - and this is heavily promoted.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
Vegetation looks like c*ap.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
this trend is not new, and it doesnt really matter. let people speak their minds.
speaking or bashing or even trolling wont deter the quality of the game for me to the slightest. I guess the same holds for you too, and some more
anyway,
here is simbin's latest effort for bathurst:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6WInWv50-n0
what I really like (aside for the near identical representation of the track), is that the positions of the key roadside details are kept intact.
we will see to what extend this will hold for forza scanned tracks too.
its hard to compare fm to a pure racing sim. simbins main focus is on tracks and physics. just think about how much of a game forza is besides that.
and yes, we ll se how much effort they have put in to recreate the track and roadside.
anyway, the screens are amazing and i cant wait to play the game. maybe ill become a saladine like bathurst addict thanks to t10
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btw, the colours are great! love the grass
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lol at the real world sun in that video. i dont get the hate around here
lens flare !
my brain want to explode because the shadows don't match with trees. It's screaming something is very wrong! XD
Waldo Lydecker
Member
lens flare !
If I would play Forza 5 I would constantly be frightened I could have a migrain aura about to appear.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
True, make no sense to have jaggy shadows if they are faked.
I have no idea what's going on.
i'm pretty sure he's talking about how the shadows don't match the placement of the trees.
skyfinch
Member
I might be wrong but the shadows could be of more simplified geometry being casted over the track to simulate trees etc. Basically use simplified objects (which will not be rendered) to create simplified shadows to cut down on resources. I used to do this back when I played around with computer animation.
drugstore_cowboy
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AbandonedTrolley
Member
reported!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Insane Metal
Gold Member
lol
GT6 is coming later and it beat FM5 to the punch..
Tsk tsk Turn 10..
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Yep, agree.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
For being an awesome post?
I agree though that Turn10 have missed a trick in their reveals, they have been very clinical and rather drab. PD seem to have a knack of creating a buzz each time they release something. Why not show the track in a video, why use sterile screenshots?
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's the Turn10 way. They do it every single time.
And it's so frustratingly painful each and every time..
phosphor112
Banned
Can't unsee.
its weird i remember doing something similar to you did during the forza 3 launch and got a barrage of hate, how times have changed!
Undercover Opulent
Banned
PD releases their trailers in stunning style.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
So because you got shit on you decide to do the same rather than actually seeing the funny side. Which no doubt YOU felt you was doing when you made your similar post?
drugstore_cowboy
Member
They are great for building hype and false hope.
Need more footage Turn 10. I need it like a crack whore needs a fix.
Give us something outrageous. Something out of left field. Something that tantalizes the senses, specifically the auditory senses. Something completely different to what you are accustomed to.
Give me something you sons a beeches!!!!!!!!
Oh and Helios, if you get in touch with Brian, let him know that I'm bringing my Sennheisers with me to the Expo. I want to hear Forza without the bullshit on the show-floor...
Give us something outrageous. Something out of left field. Something that tantalizes the senses, specifically the auditory senses. Something completely different to what you are accustomed to.
Give me something you sons a beeches!!!!!!!!
Oh and Helios, if you get in touch with Brian, let him know that I'm bringing my Sennheisers with me to the Expo. I want to hear Forza without the bullshit on the show-floor...
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Damn you!
Back OT I want to see more of this game, as although I'm not getting the console I don't think we are seeing enough from next gen racers. Drive Club have been showing stuff, but only what seems to be time trials and no races. I want to see what these machines are going to be pushing and how the racing will look on them.
eso76
Member
yup, i've been saying this since Prague pics.
it's strange..
Unless they are not prebaked, but rather 'baked' by the xbone right before the race starts.
This would allow for variable time of day on every track, with tons of options (not just midday and dusk/dawn) little effort and matching shadows.
Doubt it, though, since we would have heard of it by now, or seen evidence of this in pics.
Yeah, I like some good style and pizazz. However...I also like to see what I'm actually getting.
I just wish we were seeing MORE of what we're getting.
Undercover Opulent
Banned
Looking back at GT5, yes. People getting excited about the engine sounds in the Bathurst trailer is funny. I don't want to make this a vs.
eso76
Member
those are real engine sounds playing, that's obvious.
you'd be surprised
I am looking forward to seeing how Forza 5 sounds on my surround sound. Certain cars in 4 would literally rattle our windows when I cranked it. Soooo good....lol. I imagine 5 will have much improved roars/rumbles.