Pretty much. I did a double take when squidyj called me salty for attempting to voice my opinion on the tweet.
Everyone arguing for the other team is salty now.
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Pretty much. I did a double take when squidyj called me salty for attempting to voice my opinion on the tweet.
Everyone arguing for the other team is salty now.
Starfish Hero
Member
I thought that had more to do with the 2k vs. Madden beef than console sales, as EA backed the Xbox and Gamecube and Dreamcast was on track to sell as well as either of them.
Brad Grenz
Member
Are you playing dumb?
Ps4 & XB3 = 100gflops
WiiU = 15gflops
WiiU isn't a "GPU-centric" design, it just has an old, crappy CPU.
Not with these sales it wont.
Baconsammy
Banned
You hope that being smart with their money/resources comes back to bite them? That's awesome.
Starfish Hero
Member
Right now I'm getting, like, flashbacks to my days back at GameFAQs.
CoD isn't EA. Even then, I don't believe this money issue, otherwise they would stop making games that only caters to the 15-20 male demographic, which they don't want to see fleeing to a Nintendo system.
JordanN
Banned
There's a positive to all this. Wii U will probably have a lifespan of 3-4 years max (I mean why not? Nintendo doesn't even seem to care about it). 2015 seems like enough time to pass for Nintendo to haggle some retcon parts that can run PS4 ports with ease.
This could serve them well till PS5/1440 show up in say, 2023/2024.
It's either that or watching another Wii repeat unfold for the next 10 years but with no waggle phenomenon to back it.
I dunno. It seems like Nintendo is screwed either way. Show me something reaffirming.
This could serve them well till PS5/1440 show up in say, 2023/2024.
It's either that or watching another Wii repeat unfold for the next 10 years but with no waggle phenomenon to back it.
I dunno. It seems like Nintendo is screwed either way. Show me something reaffirming.
The reason they could snub the Dreamcast was because of its low sales.
Father_Brain
Banned
It's all about anticipated ROI, people. Specs are certainly part of that equation, but not even close to the whole thing.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Nintendo made the mistake of trying to rely on 3rd parties. I remember saying something to the effect that if they relied on 3rd parties for the Wii they were going to fail. Well it ended up being the Wii U, but the results are proving the same.
Trolling or not, I'm honestly asking you to point out these tears. Next to salty and its variants, this is yet another lame and dismissive retort that serves no purpose other than to shit up threads.
Yeesh.
Of course, you must be a salty Wii U fanboy.
Pretty sure I have been called salty, and someone has accused me of being that twitter poster. It is honestly kind of ridiculous.
Of course, I never argued otherwise except for one thing - I made a case that the one reason Johan pointed out (the hardware) doesn't necessarily match up all that well to what we know about the Wii U and what it is capable of. Outside of that, it could be any combination of things.
I might be wrong, but didn't the Dreamcast actually sell really well initially? It was the Saturn that raised serious doubts in EA's mind, and they never returned.
megabytecr
Member
Yes because I hate BS excuses, look, I like games, I am not with any company, just hate BS excuses.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
You should write fan fiction imo
Baconsammy
Banned
The mistake wasnt relying on third parties. You need them. The mistake was putting so much money into the controller instead of the console. Power is the reason frostbite 3 games won't be on the Wii U.
Starfish Hero
Member
The "could", but as I said: if that was the only reason, why would they support the Gamecube and Xbox?
Zoramon089
Banned
Nothing in this post has any basis in reality, does it?
No, no it isn't. It's return on investment. Opportunity cost isn't there to justify the port and associated engine op
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Dat last tweet.
lol
The red flag was that even with the underpowered specs they were still taking a loss (though small) on the console.
JordanN
Banned
What do you mean?
Starfish Hero
Member
For me, it was little things like believing Nintendo will give up on the Wii U in 3-4 years and that Sony and Microsoft will go 10 years without releasing next gen hardware.
Sorry for double post, btw.
So, power is the reason when a console widely perceived as close in power to the PS360 doesn't get a next gen engine that is also being ported to the PS360.
But those two consoles are exempt from the power rule because they have a large install base that would justify the cost....
...yet the Wii U's small install base isn't the reason, it must be power.
Do you see why that makes absolutely no sense?
I'm saying you don't and a lot of people who don't are acting like they do.
but you couldn't be bothered to respond to the statements that followed the identification of your saltiness. I may have called you salty but I didn't waste time and space to just call you salty with no content to it. I made a case for what it meant for your opinion to be salty, and why your salty opinion might not be actually be sound, based as it is, on salty assumptions. now you're upset about people calling you salty on the internet while adding nothing but salt to the conversation. Good Job, Salty Bob.
Perhaps you'd like to try again and suggest just why someone should privilege your reading of the tweet?
I see
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It probably doesn't. Nintendo tend to balance their systems so the all work quite efficiently together. If course that doesn't mean it's a beast.
Starfish Hero
Member
I'm sure I'm not as familiar with the Wii U hardware as any dev team that worked on it, but you don't have to jump through hoops to get an idea of why what he said was nothing more than an excuse.
megabytecr
Member
Yes it is power issue, not enough powered consoles.
MDSLKTR
Member
but dat last tweet
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Welp....don't expect many multiplatforms from EA.
Seriously. Where's that South Park Cartman gif. The delicious tears of unfathomable sadness.
JordanN
Banned
Considering how long the PS3/360 last and how Sony pumped 8GB's of ram into their next gen console, I think 10 years is a fair assessment. The exception may be when 4k drops by and the hardware needed for it is strong.
Wii U lasting more than 4 years will look weird. With no third party, the console will be plagued by heavy droughts. Nintendo will have also released their major games by then so we're talking what? Mario Tennis HD and Mario Party 12 in 2016?
Also, don't forget they have to take care of the 3DS and its possible successor. Their teams could be very stretched.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Why didn't more third parties support it around launch? The likes of Dishonoured, Sleeping Dogs, Resident Evil 6 for example? Then you have Tomb Raider, MGS Rising, 2k Sports who have seen releases only a matter of months into the systems life cycle.
The PS4 and Next Xbox will have zero install base yet a lot of investment is going into bringing games to both. I still think Nintendo deserves stern criticism for this situation with third parties, I'm a fan of them since the 90s (SNES, N64 and even GameCube ) but this Wii U and it's situation does annoy me, it's the reason I criticise them a lot and not to intentionally piss off other fans.
Baconsammy
Banned
I actually think the reason is they simply dont give a crap about the Wii U at this point. Like many other third parties. It's weak compared to the hardware they're moving to, and they know that their games sell better to people who prefer to play on PCs, PS, and Xbox. As I said earlier, they're cutting staff and reorganizing. Now's not the time to take chances on hardware that the world has pretty much collectively rejected already. I can't blame EA. Nor could I blame them if the Wii U suddenly takes off and they re-evaluate their position. EA is a business, not a charity.
Come on, if the difference was nearly as big, it would have far more problems running multiplataform games than "drops framerate more often at some NPC heavy areas".
Chinpoko_Master
Member
It sounds like an excuse. The truth is probably more along the lines of "We saw the Wii U sales and decided not to go down that path." Can't blame them though.
Mr. MondayNight
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Joke made in Nintendo's "defense" salty any other company and it would have been called snappy and applauded by the same people referring to the tweeter as a fanboy
which he could very well be I haven't read his feed yet.
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