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Gay and Bisexual relationship thread |OT|

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Suairyu said:
The hostility towards bi-sexuals (intentional or no) as exhibited in this thread is the reason I generally let other homosexuals believe I'm homosexual myself. First GayGAF thread I posted in I made comments about how I believe the notion of a LGBT "community" was an inherently damaging idea* and it was demanded of me if I was gay myself. Decided to let everyone think I was fully one way to avoid what I felt was the inevitable "if you're not fully gay you will never understand" attack. I've actually felt like a coward on these forums ever since.

I probably should have posted the above in the coming out thread instead.

*We are not continuing this chat here, yeah? It never works out well. Unless you're the Scissor Sisters, in which case you're famous AND Gay-famous so people will respect your controversial but intelligent opinion about it.
We weren't honestly going to give you shit about it. We had many open bisexuals in the megathread and they didn't leave.
 

Mumei

Member
Suairyu said:
The hostility towards bi-sexuals (intentional or no) as exhibited in this thread is the reason I generally let other homosexuals believe I'm homosexual myself. First GayGAF thread I posted in I made comments about how I believe the notion of a LGBT "community" was an inherently damaging idea* and it was demanded of me if I was gay myself. Decided to let everyone think I was fully one way to avoid what I felt was the inevitable "if you're not fully gay you will never understand" attack. I've actually felt like a coward on these forums ever since.

I actually think that most of the posts expressing hostility were people making fun of that position, not actually advocating it.

*We are not continuing this chat here, yeah? It never works out well. Unless you're the Scissor Sisters, in which case you're famous AND Gay-famous so people will respect your controversial but intelligent opinion about it.

There's no reason it has to work out poorly. Why do you think it is damaging?
 

Sai-kun

Banned
ZephyrFate said:
We weren't honestly going to give you shit about it. We had many open bisexuals in the megathread and they didn't leave.

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you'll never get rid of me

never, i say
 
spindashing said:
More love from NegroGAF. Do the damn thang. :D

I'm not gay, but I appreciate you guys and the many struggles you may/have gone through. Be strong and just be yourselves!

Co-signed! :D

I am also not gay, but I wholesomely support my fellow brothers & sisters who are.

I have gay & lesbian friends whom I also love being around, and their still my good friends regardless of who they choose to be with.


Keep up the love & increase da peace.
 

Suairyu

Banned
Mumei said:
I actually think that most of the posts expressing hostility were people making fun of that position, not actually advocating it.
Most, not all.

And even if I didn't detect it on GAF, I'd still be cautious just because it is such an immensely rampant mindset. It actually shocked me. I went to an all-boys high school and they were generally more accepting of it than any gay-focussed group I've ever encountered. That speaks volumes.

BUT I SHALL BE SILENT NO LONGER!!!

Mumei said:
There's no reason it has to work out poorly. Why do you think it is damaging?
... except regarding this!

There's plenty of reasons. None of them good, but there you go. I'll make a thread about it one day if I want to discuss it again, but I seriously doubt it. More frustrating than the (understandable) reactions of some of the GayGAF members was the flock of White-Knights who never read what I said and started accusing me of being homophobic
: /
 
Suairyu said:
Most, not all.

And even if I didn't detect it on GAF, I'd still be cautious just because it is such an immensely rampant mindset. It actually shocked me. I went to an all-boys high school and they were generally more accepting of it than any gay-focussed group I've ever encountered. That speaks volumes.
There's just an inordinate amount of bad experiences linked with bisexuals and people stretch that out to everyone, so you'll just have to work on changing that statistic.
 

Mumei

Member
ZephyrFate said:
There's just an inordinate amount of bad experiences linked with bisexuals and people stretch that out to everyone, so you'll just have to work on changing that statistic.

I'm not sure this is the issue (that there's an inordinate amount of bad experiences linked to bisexuals).

I mean, yes, I'm sure there are bad experiences with bisexuals. The difference is that, for whatever reason (probably existing stereotypes), there are people who have a bad experience with one or two bisexual guys and extrapolate that to all bisexual guys in a way they wouldn't if they had a bad experience with a gay guy. It's probably because there's a tendency to see stereotypical behavior as confirmation of a stereotype - so a bisexual guy who behaves poorly is seen as indicative of all bisexuals rather than just being representative of himself.
 

Suairyu

Banned
ZephyrFate said:
I wish I had the ability to date more than just men, but I can't get it up for women, so I'm stuck in my limited pond of men :(
It's more about people than gender, at least for me. Like, I can't get aroused by gay porn. I mean, gay porn is by large terrible, but even the good stuff just doesn't do it for me. I need my erotica to be straight. But present me with a cute guy with a great mind and I'm all over him like hungry wolf.

I am much more picky about my men than women, though. It's like I'm straight most of the time and every once in a while a guy comes along who pulls me over "to the other side".
 
Suairyu said:
It's more about people than gender, at least for me. Like, I can't get aroused by gay porn. I mean, gay porn is by large terrible, but even the good stuff just doesn't do it for me. I need my erotica to be straight. But present me with a cute guy with a great mind and I'm all over him like hungry wolf.

I am much more picky about my men than women, though. It's like I'm straight most of the time and every once in a while a guy comes along who pulls me over "to the other side".
Just so long as you don't tell your future gay boyfriends this, you'll avoid quite a bit of drama :lol
 

Suairyu

Banned
ZephyrFate said:
Just so long as you don't tell your future gay boyfriends this, you'll avoid quite a bit of drama :lol
They could either interpret is as they're not the usual in my life, or they can think they're something special (which they'd have to be). Nothing gets dudes hotter than thinking they're top dog.

And argh, screw you and your rotating avatar. Shit confuses me no end.
 
Just a note, if you're sending me a request on Skype (motorde), please include that you're from GayGAF. I don't want to risk adding someone to the chat that might be from work or something. :lol
 
Suairyu said:
They could either interpret is as they're not the usual in my life, or they can think they're something special (which they'd have to be). Nothing gets dudes hotter than thinking they're top dog.

And argh, screw you and your rotating avatar. Shit confuses me no end.
My rotating avatar is a great success if it's doing that. :)
 

Suairyu

Banned
ZephyrFate said:
My rotating avatar is a great success if it's doing that. :)
>: (
Hurry up and make the NaNoWriMo thread already. Or is that someone else? Fuck I'm so confused right now and it's not related to sexuality.

EDIT - Ah, the Tiger! Yes! That one.
 

Magnus

Member
This sexy, handsome, beast of a salt/pepper daddy and I have been talking online on/off for months. Man, he's good looking, and such a sweetheart, but I've learned the hard way that people just aren't what they seem in person compared to their web persona.

I'm tempted to meet him, even just as friends and see if anything goes anywhere. I'm also pretty much exclusively thinking with my cock tonight. Sigh.
 

_Isaac

Member
Magnus said:
This sexy, handsome, beast of a salt/pepper daddy and I have been talking online on/off for months. Man, he's good looking, and such a sweetheart, but I've learned the hard way that people just aren't what they seem in person compared to their web persona.

I'm tempted to meet him, even just as friends and see if anything goes anywhere. I'm also pretty much exclusively thinking with my cock tonight. Sigh.

Well just meet him in a public place and get to know him in person before any sexing up occurs. Either way, be safe. :D
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Magnus said:
I'm tempted to meet him, even just as friends and see if anything goes anywhere. I'm also pretty much exclusively thinking with my cock tonight. Sigh.

Then meet him, but in a public place. What's to stop you other than your raging hard-on for him from doing this? Online safety first before sexual risks/unsafety.
 

Magnus

Member
Oh, I totally would be smart about a first meeting, as I always have been with many others. I just felt like vocalizing myself on this one. :lol

How unethical would it be to post a grindr dude's photo in this thread? :lol

What's the consensus on how quickly to give a guy your phone number?

I definitely had a couple bad experiences with that in the past. One dude called me 41 times in one hour at work once.
 
Magnus said:
Oh, I totally would be smart about a first meeting, as I always have been with many others. I just felt like vocalizing myself on this one. :lol

How unethical would it be to post a grindr dude's photo in this thread? :lol

What's the consensus on how quickly to give a guy your phone number?

I definitely had a couple bad experiences with that in the past. One dude called me 41 times in one hour at work once.
I would say get to know them over drinks or something before giving out the number.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Magnus said:
How unethical would it be to post a grindr dude's photo in this thread? :lol

People have done it in the Gay thead before, but I generally find it distasteful, coming from NSA/discreet anonymous sex. *shrug* Your issue, though.

What's the consensus on how quickly to give a guy your phone number?

I wouldn't give it to someone you're talking to online until you REALLY good friends or going out, and even then I wouldn't give it to them until you're sure you want to give it to them. But that's a personal boundary thing for me.
 

Magnus

Member
TheSeks said:
People have done it in the Gay thead before, but I generally find it distasteful, coming from NSA/discreet anonymous sex. *shrug* Your issue, though.


Yeah, I'll refrain for sure. I wouldn't want my photo posted around the web in the hands of another grindr dude.
 
Magnus said:
This sexy, handsome, beast of a salt/pepper daddy and I have been talking online on/off for months. Man, he's good looking, and such a sweetheart, but I've learned the hard way that people just aren't what they seem in person compared to their web persona.

I'm tempted to meet him, even just as friends and see if anything goes anywhere. I'm also pretty much exclusively thinking with my cock tonight. Sigh.


Daddy talk is killing me. *pant pant*
 

fernoca

Member
btkadams said:
this thread is just for talk about relationships. the old thread was locked because it became a chat room about things unrelated to the thread.
Oh, so no "homey" thread? :(
I've been single all my life, so guess I'm not wanted here too. :lol :lol

Nah, oh well..will edit the post and depending on the advise being asked, may pop around then.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Magnus said:
This sexy, handsome, beast of a salt/pepper daddy and I have been talking online on/off for months. Man, he's good looking, and such a sweetheart, but I've learned the hard way that people just aren't what they seem in person compared to their web persona.

I'm tempted to meet him, even just as friends and see if anything goes anywhere. I'm also pretty much exclusively thinking with my cock tonight. Sigh.
You should! Just keep it safe.

Also salt/pepper dudes = HOT. *flashbacks to friday*
 

Replicant

Member
fernoca said:
I've been single all my life, so guess I'm not wanted here too. :lol :lol

"Relationship" is just a wide umbrella to cover various topics related to it. The reverse of being in relationship is being single so if you want to talk about guys you're interested in or why you're single, I don't see why the mods will see it as a problem. Is finding guys hard in your area?
 

fernoca

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Replicant said:
"Relationship" is just a wide umbrella to cover various topics related to it. The reverse of being in relationship is being single so if you want to talk about guys you're interested in or why you're single, I don't see why the mods will see it as a problem. Is finding guys hard in your area?
Yeah I know, I was just adding drama. :lol :lol
Well, finding guys is no problem since there are plenty. Finding good guys is the hard thing. And finding good guys that are also happen to be gay is even more difficult.

I just don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for. If I look I'm bad, because I'm not supposed to look for them. If I don't, I'm bad because I'm not supposed to just sit and wait.

Experience in discos, pubs, bookstores, online, offline...everything has just been either negative or disappointing. But at least there's experience out of it. I just don't know where else am I supposed to go, when even the community groups around, are full of the same guys that are fully naked and only looking for sex on Manhunt.

I've been trhough many weird situations. Like the guy I think I mentioned in the other thread, that basically wanted a relationship, but not with me because "I wasn't good looking enough" (up until that point we only talked online, for months; but never exchanged pictures). Or the one that didn't wanted anything to do with me, but was crying every time my friend (which he had a huge crush) ignored him and when I told him that "I was there for him", his replies were always a "lol". And those were just the recent ones. Or like the guy that everything was fine online, and we decided to meet in person and he saw me (even when he already had seen pics of me), and said "BRB"; and never came back (and happened 3 times with 3 different guys); and so on.

I've been planning to move to the US , so maybe I'l lhave better luck over there; or maybe not.
 
Replicant said:
"Relationship" is just a wide umbrella to cover various topics related to it. The reverse of being in relationship is being single so if you want to talk about guys you're interested in or why you're single, I don't see why the mods will see it as a problem. Is finding guys hard in your area?
fernoca has a long history of telling us that he has a lot of problems. =[
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
fernoca said:
Or like the guy that everything was fine online, and we decided to meet in person and he saw me (even when he already had seen pics of me), and said "BRB"; and never came back (and happened 3 times with 3 different guys); and so on.

PM me your photo, provided you want an asshole like me to be blunt/honest.
I'd say the same to Isaac given his gym-crush drama from a year ago, but I ain't going to push that
.

Granted, you can't be as ugly as some people I know in my life from high-school.

In any case, those dudes that bailed on you sound like pricks. Why commit to meeting up if you're going to bail after seeing the person in real-life?

On topic:

"Relationship" is just a wide umbrella to cover various topics related to it. The reverse of being in relationship is being single so if you want to talk about guys you're interested in or why you're single,

Oh the places I could go with this. But I think I'll go with: I have high-standards, low sex drive, and am an asshole. So, I've resigned myself to being alone for all my life and having to prostitute myself if I want sex when I'm in the mood.
 

_Isaac

Member
TheSeks said:
PM me your photo, provided you want an asshole like me to be blunt/honest.
I'd say the same to Isaac given his gym-crush drama from a year ago, but I ain't going to push that
.

Check your PMs.

;)
 

fragilebroken

Neo Member
I'm not the type to hang out in bars. They're loud and crowded and I'm trying not to drink. Where else can I go to meet people who might be interested? I haven't had much luck meeting girls on okcupid, either. And I'm crazy-insecure about hitting on random strangers.
 

Koomaster

Member
fragilebroken said:
I'm not the type to hang out in bars. They're loud and crowded and I'm trying not to drink. Where else can I go to meet people who might be interested? I haven't had much luck meeting girls on okcupid, either. And I'm crazy-insecure about hitting on random strangers.
A couple of my lesbian friends have had a lot of luck on plentyoffish.com for local people if you want to try the internet again.
 

beje

Banned
Ugh, I met a guy today that would be pretty much the perfect husband (a little nerdy, likes outdoors sports, cute, nice muscle body, smart, funny and amazing sex) if it wasn't for a "little detail": he's more than 20 years older than me

T_______T
 

Koomaster

Member
beje said:
Ugh, I met a guy today that would be pretty much the perfect husband (a little nerdy, likes outdoors sports, cute, nice muscle body, smart, funny and amazing sex) if it wasn't for a "little detail": he's more than 20 years older than me

T_______T
*hug/comfort*





... give me his number!
 
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