funkmastergeneral
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Tamanon said:
If Georgia actually did start it then they deserve any pounding they get, it would be retarded for them to attack Russia. That's like Panama trying to attack the US
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Georgia and Russia at war
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If Georgia actually did start it then they deserve any pounding they get, it would be retarded for them to attack Russia. That's like Panama trying to attack the US
Kung Fu Jedi
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funkmastergeneral said:
In their mind they weren't attacking Russia. They were attacking Ossetia, and probably underestimated Russia's response. A classic "Oh shit!" moment for the government there most likely. Now they want the U.S. to help them out of their little jam.
funkmastergeneral said:
Russia has been violating Georgian sovereignty in the region for a while now. Remember while the region in question is considered separatist region, it still falls within the internationally recognized borders of Georgia. It is Russia who is invading Georgian territory. I have not heard of Georgian troops crossing into Russia, and indeed it would be retarded.
funkmastergeneral
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KRS7 said:
Well that makes a lot more sense and if that's the case then Georgia deserves international help and Putin can go eat a bag of dicks
Russian peacekeepers were stationed in South Ossetia. Their barracks were shelled with artillery, including the bombing of the population, etc. Russia moves 150+ armored vehicles into the country at that point. 90% of the citizens of South Ossetia have Russian passports, giving them a technical Russian citizenship.
Strategically it's in Russia's interest to disrupt Georgia and NATO efforts. Georgia was apparently next on the list to join up. So if NATO did recruit Georgia, NATO is technically at war with Russia.
An ugly mess really. Though considering the firepower Russia has (although Georgia reported shot down 4 Russian planes) I expect them to put the Georgian's on their knees. Maybe. Guess we'll see very soon how far this will escalate.
Strategically it's in Russia's interest to disrupt Georgia and NATO efforts. Georgia was apparently next on the list to join up. So if NATO did recruit Georgia, NATO is technically at war with Russia.
An ugly mess really. Though considering the firepower Russia has (although Georgia reported shot down 4 Russian planes) I expect them to put the Georgian's on their knees. Maybe. Guess we'll see very soon how far this will escalate.
That Russian today livestream is just painful to watch, according to them the Georgian president on CNN is lying, they even call it propaganda. Also the Georgians got their weapons from the UK and US according to the Russians. The Georgians got a list of names of government officials from Russia calling the shots in South Ossetia so the UN remains undecided.
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Roude Leiw
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[Nintex] said:
yeah :lol at russia today^^
Forsete
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Georgia was attacking South Ossetian cities with artillery.. The russian peacekeepers were in combat and suffered casualties, Russia is sending in support.
Its not very black and white, but Georgia looks to have angered the resting bear.
Edit: I dont like this tend with smaller and smaller countries.
Its not very black and white, but Georgia looks to have angered the resting bear.
Edit: I dont like this tend with smaller and smaller countries.
Funky Papa
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That'd be pretty awesome. Actually, I think I'd pee myself a little.[Nintex] said:
Sviatoslav
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What's with all the Putin shit? People do realize he's not president anymore, right? Or are they implying that Medvedev is a puppet?
Roude Leiw
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Sviatoslav said:
well medvedev is in fact a puppet ^^
Why the hell did Georgia invade South Ossetia ? Russia has stated many times that it will intervene if Georgia decides to invade South Ossetia.
I think I'm with russia in this case. Georgia bombed civilian targets and refused to withdraw from South Ossetia so I think Russians actions are acceptable.
Russia doesn't even want this war. They are demanding that UN security council would pressure Georgia back to negotiation table with south ossetia... But I guess it's too late but I sure do hope that russia stops in south ossetia and doesn't go further.
I think I'm with russia in this case. Georgia bombed civilian targets and refused to withdraw from South Ossetia so I think Russians actions are acceptable.
Russia doesn't even want this war. They are demanding that UN security council would pressure Georgia back to negotiation table with south ossetia... But I guess it's too late but I sure do hope that russia stops in south ossetia and doesn't go further.
Funky Papa
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You know, that could be true, but Russia has a looong history of bombing the shit out of its own citizens to wage war, so...Fuzz Rez said:
Sviatoslav
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The whole "puppet" is mostly from the western media. People in Russia feel differently.
And the people in russia are more or less brainwashed by their media. Russia's govt. kills journalists who challenge the govt's policies.Sviatoslav said:
There is nothing un-corrupt about how Russia is ran. Putin refused to give up power, its run by mostly ex-KGB's and they keep the media in check by killing off any threats. It's a big mess.
If a journalist in America was MURDERED by the government there would be mass hysteria and chaos, Russians seem content to allow their government to be ran by force sadly.
Sviatoslav
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Hey, I'm sure the western media is totally unbiased with reporting news dealing with Russia, right?Cheebs said:
And maybe the people support the government because right now Russia is probably in the best shape its been since the break up of the soviet union.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Fuzz Rez said:
Did you ever think you'd see the day where you'd side with Russia and then in the next breat call for a country to be "Free" under their rule? :lol
Sviatoslav said:
what, an unknown bureaucrat installed by Putin who is now himself Prime Minister? surely not...
yes, unsubtle jabs by pundits at differing political sides is totally comparable to the imprisonment and murder of journalists. and let's not foreget the out-and-out refusal to cover the opposition parties during elections deemed unfair by independent monitors. Russia is a much a democracy as Zimbabwe.
Funky Papa
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Did Georgia acknowledged the indiscriminate shelling of Tskhinvali? Because of so, they deserve a lot of the blame.
It is pretty biased, but not nearly as much as Russia's. You know, killing and jailing the oposition is not something most people can cope with.
Goodwin's law should hit this thread in full force sooner than I anticipated.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Fuzz Rez said:
Of course they're not...
Rur0ni said:Ossetia wants to be part of Russia.
And Chechnya wants to be independent, but Russia told the world that it was an internal matter and proceeded to slaughter its own citizens.
Edit. If the US granted citizenship to half of Mexico, and most would freely take it if that were the case, would the US have the right to invade Mexico? A sovereign country? You can't just grant anyone citizenship and then use that as a justification for invasion.
Sviatoslav
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How exactly was Medvedev an unknown? Oh right, because that unbiased western media never talked about him right? Putin was much more unknown when he became president.Zenith said:
Sviatoslav
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Ossetia is divided into North Ossetia which is a part of Russia and South Ossetia which is a part of Georgia. South Ossetia wants to leave Georgia and join North Ossetia and be a part of Russia.Emenis said:
Kung Fu Jedi
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Fuzz Rez said:Well I think ossetia would still be cool with that... 90% of Ossetian's are Russian citizens... And they want to be part of russia
I know all of that. I'm just saying, when's the last time that anyone felt that a country would be more "free" under the Russian umbrella?? Those things haven't really coincided in the past.
Kung Fu Jedi said:
In this case I would consider Ossetia more free under the Russian umbrella. Georgia has been fucking up ossetia since... well always, they won't even deliver electricity for South Ossetia. On the other hand Russia has been aiding south ossetia always. South Ossetia is shit hole and that's pretty much Georgias fault.
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