StopMakingSense
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Blitzrules240
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Vinny saying "Mass Effect: Andromeda face" slayed me LMAO.
Shooters have always had a weird time as a spectator sport. While the mechanics are clearer and readily understandable, the macro level and swings of gameplay are just visually harder to see or appreciate. It's not like a fighting game where you see the other player getting juggled or bounced around or in DotA where you just see a team getting blown up and wiped out or a tense chase. Shooters are trickier to appreciate in that manner.
I spent a lot of time watching competitive Halo 3 and while it was fun times, I can certainly see the barrier from a spectators' view.
Mister Negative
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Competitive Halo 3 was far easier to watch and appreciate than something like, say, Counter Strike.
The higher TTK lead to interesting spectator moments. Greanted, I'm more than likely biased because I don't play CS and Halo 3 is probably my favorite game of all time.
Shit, right, I was in the middle of the write up and had completely forgotten to mention that. Halo having a slower TTK totally helps it more on a spectator level versus Counter Strike or Quake/UT.
Mister Negative
Member
That's why I never get when people hate on slow TTKs. Halo gun battles were like a ballet at high levels. I always liked it.
So goooooooood. I loved watching Halo 3 competitive almost as much as I did playing it.
I haven't kept up with the actual competitive scene but following just one streamer and their viewpoint works totally fine for shooters cause you're always just watching them play. When you switch to trying to follow a whole team? And then switching between 2 teams and their positioning and fast gameplay moments? I think that's just much harder to keep track for the spectator (as the camera man).
Mister Negative
Member
Probably because so many people play it. I'd say for a non-player, Halo would be much easier/interesting to watch than CSGO.
Fast paced action will always be more interesting for people to watch in general.
Especially when you have pros who use a mouse compared to those who use controllers, the reaction/speed/accuracy gap is huge.
Piston Hyundai
Member
Quake gun battles are like a ballet no matter what
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'd say the amount of non--players who would be interested in Halo esports is next to 0.
Mister Negative
Member
Well yeah, for sure. Halo ain't what it used to be.
I feel like you could say this for most esports so, while I get your point, I don't think it actually means much to say that.
UpsideDownAce
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This is my most hyped game for the switch. I play the Japanese demo at least an hour every day
Basileus777
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I've gotten to ending A in Nier Automata and the game is still pretty disappointing coming from the first Nier. Dull characters, a dull setting, terrible antagonists (those twins..ugh), and an open world that is largely meaningless. Hopefully that really was just the prologue because I keep waiting for Yoko Taro stuff to happen. Right now it feels like Nier with a worse cast of characters and better combat (but less weird genre mashing).
holy shiiiiiiiii
i'll be honest legfish you have at least one more playthrough before it actually goes places. speed through b as fast as you can imho
i don't know shit about OG nier yet. Probably will watch a playthrough after.
Basileus777
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Should I bother with sidequests? I've done 53% of them and so far most of them have had little narrative and were just ways to get crafting materials.
There are sidequests in B (A too) that make a lot of sense retrospectively.
Piston Hyundai
Member
I just realized we're overdue for a Paul Ryckert visit
and the best content of both comes from the East
and the best content of both comes from the East
LPArchive has a really good playthrough of Nier + the Drakengard games. Highly recommended.
Twin Tails
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Bbc kids came in with too much hype but too little substance.
broncobuster
Banned
Roll Safe v Blinking White Guy in the finals
You think? I can see Obama/Biden going all the way
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also man I never knew that was called roll safe.
Why is it called roll safe?
Why is it called roll safe?
Weird, it's not on their website but is on their Youtube account?
Twin Tails
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Beast vids sometimes take a while to achieve on the site fsr.
Piston Hyundai
Member
I'd put money on Roll Safe beating Drew in the finals
Twin Tails
Member
Drew is gonna be on his podcast on Tuesday! Can we trust Drew Scanlon now?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
therealminime
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I did it. I beat Mass Effect: Andromeda. It never got better. I've never been happier to be free of a game.
ugh
ugh
SeriuzBiznus
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Damn. Sad to hear it doesn't improve. I'm struggling already to chug through the first few hours. 😕
I'm happy at least with the way my Ryder looks, though I still think the character creator is very limited:
Aarglefarg
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Congratulations to Drew and Dan for their upcoming wedding.
Are you seriously comparing Halo with CoD right now?
Piston Hyundai
Member
how dare I compare two popular multiplayer console shooters
how could they possibly have anything in common in an esports environment
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They're not even the shooters that are the most popular in the scene. That would go to csgo.
Korean ocerwatch is threatening to take iver too.
Korean ocerwatch is threatening to take iver too.
Try comparing them when they are equally popular. It's time to understand that Halo isn't what it used to be.
A free PC version of Multiplayer Halo is the only way Halo could maybe establish itself organically in the esport scene, without MS burning more money to get people to like it.
Yeah. As much as MS and Activision try, they can't compete with those games. Korea has PC/esports in their culture. There's no way to penetrate that scene with a console multiplayer game.
If MS is satisfied with Halo's esports status in 2017, which they aren't, they could just keep doing the same thing. I expect them to push even harder in this direction though. In the end they want to turn everything into a service. Halo could be a great opportunity for that.