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Giant Bomb |OT31| I Think it Might Be for Show
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Basileus777
Member
They should trick one of the engineers/other non-camera people at CBS into being on it.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Death Metalist
Member
Very possible it could happen since they've tried it with other videos and well, that's how they do their regular meetings too I assume(well maybe using something better than skype).
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They should get David.
What does David even do all day?
What does David even do all day?
Piston Hyundai
Member
If they get David for Kingdom Heartache I'll take back anything I said about it
Basileus777
Member
Skyped is somehow the default verb for this.
Fuck, they should get Jeremiah. I bet he'd know about wholesome Disney entertainment.
Sounds like hell. Aggressively apathetic to the game but forced by training to yes-and which only prolongs the personal hell because Ben thinks you are interested.
Kingdom Heartache isn't the greatest idea for a feature, but I can't help but get that impression.
I dont want this taken the wrong way. My secret prediction before Ben was hired was that the new hire wasn't going to actually reinvigorate GB West like some people hoped for, because it doesn't matter who they hire in that regard. Jeff and Brad are fantastic, but they seemed to have established a certain atmosphere (probably because of CBSi and the workload) that stifles a certain amount of Danism. Sure, let's call it Danism.
They'll let you do whatever, but they probably won't go with it and will leave you hanging on a ledge by yourself. In terms of new ideas,
I wish Ben luck; he might need it depending on what ideas he's got next.
They'll let you do whatever, but they probably won't go with it and will leave you hanging on a ledge by yourself. In terms of new ideas,
I wish Ben luck; he might need it depending on what ideas he's got next.
That's my hot take of the year.
Blitzrules240
Banned
Dammit, who left the oven on.
KARSPANKEY, I SWEAR TO KNACK IM GUNNA
KARSPANKEY, I SWEAR TO KNACK IM GUNNA
DanLongman
Member
Haha. That would be something.
Death Metalist
Member
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BUNTING1243
Banned
I think Ben is in a really bad spot because, like a lot of you have said, zany premium video series have really never been Brad or Jeff's thing.
Whether it's because they've been doing this longer, they don't have the Video Producer creative streak Vinny does, or they are just weighed down by having more business-y stuff to do (hosting/producing the Bombcast for Brad and being EIC for Jeff), they've just never really been big into videos that aren't relatively straight-forward game play throughs.
Which I think is mostly fine (things like the P4 endurance run and Breaking Brad were frequently great, they just don't always hit), but it doesn't seem like what a lot of you want.
I think it's not super fair to blame Ben for a lot of this. When Dan came in, he had Drew to play off of with a lot of his ideas, and I suspect this thread would be a lot more positive if he had someone to do these ideas with.
Ben's also much much much newer to video game hosting than Dan was, so that comparison is doubly not fair to him. I think, all things considered, he's done a really incredible job since getting hired.
Anyways, I think Ben is great, I don't think Brad or Jeff are really suited for the kind of content a lot of people want from West, and I think a new hire (or, ideally, one producer and another editor) would really do wonders.
Whether it's because they've been doing this longer, they don't have the Video Producer creative streak Vinny does, or they are just weighed down by having more business-y stuff to do (hosting/producing the Bombcast for Brad and being EIC for Jeff), they've just never really been big into videos that aren't relatively straight-forward game play throughs.
Which I think is mostly fine (things like the P4 endurance run and Breaking Brad were frequently great, they just don't always hit), but it doesn't seem like what a lot of you want.
I think it's not super fair to blame Ben for a lot of this. When Dan came in, he had Drew to play off of with a lot of his ideas, and I suspect this thread would be a lot more positive if he had someone to do these ideas with.
Ben's also much much much newer to video game hosting than Dan was, so that comparison is doubly not fair to him. I think, all things considered, he's done a really incredible job since getting hired.
Anyways, I think Ben is great, I don't think Brad or Jeff are really suited for the kind of content a lot of people want from West, and I think a new hire (or, ideally, one producer and another editor) would really do wonders.
Infinite Justice
Member
lol
if the 1099 guy got him as a guest that would be crazy.
Might not be that type of guy though.
Blitzrules240
Banned
GBGaf OT 32 "Did you pickup the purse?".
I don't think it has anything at all to do with Ben. I just really think this game doesn't have a lot to offer as far as what people want from premium content. Like, it's not fun to watch, not fun to make fun of because it's not shitty enough to be funny, the writings not good or wacky, combat is repetitive and button mashy.
It's kinda just another action RPG. Might as well stream some Level 5 bullshit or Dynasty Warriors game.
The right person can certainly make most anything entertaining but Ben gave himself a goddamn Mount Everest to climb here
but this series is also a mess and I think there are a bunch of people like me who want to be interested in KH 3 but don't know where to start
I actually enjoy that feature, maybe it's just not for you, it's ok not to like some things
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So how do people deal with being the worst person on their PUBG squad?
Because I haven't played in ages and when I squadded up again I felt really bad about pulling them down.
Because I haven't played in ages and when I squadded up again I felt really bad about pulling them down.
Blitzrules240
Banned
I've fallen off Murder Island...
By an episode.
By an episode.
Well, I never.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Bravely shield them with your body.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Actually that's kind of the thing I was wondering about. Is all of kingdom hearts combat just like this? For the praise it gets I was expecting something more.
I do that already, bravery or no bravery.
I do that already, bravery or no bravery.
J.W. Stillwater
Member
"The only fast food burger I've had is a Whopper."
Fire Ben
Fire Ben
Actually that's kind of the thing I was wondering about. Is all of kingdom hearts combat just like this? For the praise it gets I was expecting something more.
I do that already, bravery or no bravery.
I literally don't remember what each game was like at this point but I've heard that 2's is better.
I remember loving BBS's combat when I played it and that was relatively recently (enough that I was older and had played more games, I mean) so I trust my past self on that.
Infinite Justice
Member
Iirc once you get magic (which includes summons) in your arsenal also with special combo attacks you can equip that's basically it.
The real crazy combo attacks and don't appear until KH2 and onwards
The only awkward part would be that West produces, like, 10-15% more content than East, believe it or not.
Edit to add: unless it's about quality. That would be awkward, especially because no one at GB seems to watch any of their own content so they'd have no way to answer.
Blitzrules240
Banned
I did a double take when he said he started eating burgers at TWENTY.
A full play through would be so great
I just watched the quick look retro of the original Deus Ex
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
TBF he said he had to have a mechanical heart pumper thingy installed and seem pretty diet conscious.
Don't think burgers are on the menu for him.
Don't think burgers are on the menu for him.
Empty Space
Member
Actually that's kind of the thing I was wondering about. Is all of kingdom hearts combat just like this? For the praise it gets I was expecting something more.
I do that already, bravery or no bravery.
It becomes more involved as you gain more abilities, but at least in KH1 it is just a whole bunch of hit x and occasionally heal. Some of the secret/extra bosses require some smarter usage of abilities and spells, but they're the exception for the most part.
Chain of Memories is this strange card game action hybrid where there comes a point you can rig your deck to essentially auto win.
KH2 is basically the same as KH1, but you have more varied ways to mash X. The same applies here with the secret bosses although grinding is more effective in KH2, so overpower most opponents in the end no matter what. Its my understanding that the added Final Mix bosses are more in line with KH1 bosses where they require more finesse.
Its my understanding that there were some smart changes done in Birth by Sleep and Dream Drop Distance that make combat more varied, but I haven't played those so I can't say one way or the other.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, Ben is doing the best with what he's got in my opinion
BUNTING1243
Banned
vinny really is the combination of every single positive aspect each other giant bomb member has, plus so much more
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Hmm alright. It doesn't really sound impressive to me but hey, people love it.
It looks smoother than any Tales of game at least.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
I'm probably an ass for saying this, but I really wish some of that enthusiasm (and really that's most of what it is!) would rub off on Brad or Jeff, or even occasionally Alex (though he's got a lot better over time and it's great to see because he's a funny guy with an interesting take a lot of the time).
Like, the glib sarcastic dismissal is funny sometimes but it's feels like it's their only tool a lot of the time. I've seen them do better. I dunno, it's probably a taxing job and being on all the time is hard -- I wouldn't know, I'm not an entertainer. And it's not like they were hired to be entertainers in the Gamespot days. Sooo... shrug.
Infinite Justice
Member
Watching Exquisite Corps 1
im expecting this to go fucking poorly.lol
im expecting this to go fucking poorly.lol
Blitzrules240
Banned
Nothing could possibly go wrong with Abby in charge!
KillerDark
Member
Actually that's kind of the thing I was wondering about. Is all of kingdom hearts combat just like this? For the praise it gets I was expecting something more.
I do that already, bravery or no bravery.
Nah this is nothing. You can get away with mashing on normal. Also you get a lot of abilities and other stuff as you level up and progress. Proud difficulty makes the combat much better, actually need to engage with all the mechanics. That being said KH1 combat doesn't compare to what you can do in KH2
Basileus777
Member
I finished Hellblade and I don't think it was an especially good game. I endured the poor pacing, dull puzzles, bad encounter design, slow movement, and poor combat controls and while I enjoyed the atmosphere through it, the ending left me feeling pretty unrewarded. It could have been trimmed down a fair bit and I don't think it executed on the premise of its themes well enough to excuse all the other problems it has. It's a tough game to recommend tbh.
I disagree!
It could have been much cleaner in spots but the whole "point' of it really landed for me.
And that said, love or hate it, it's certainly something I'd recommend people trying. It's an interesting thing regardless.
Edit: Also the controls and "game feel" are like, really good; what was your issue there?
Blitzrules240
Banned
Was Ben trying to go for the fistbump with Rorie when he triggered the boss cutscene? Feels like Rorie missed the signal.
Edit: He totally is at 22 mins. Damn...this is awkward.
Edit2: Maybe he was just making a fist lol.
Edit: He totally is at 22 mins. Damn...this is awkward.
Edit2: Maybe he was just making a fist lol.
Basileus777
Member
It has some really powerful moments, but the ending didn't work for me and the actual gameplay of the game was mostly a chore.
I posted about it earlier, but the camera in combat is atrocious and problematic in combat encounters where there isn't a ton of space. The movement speed also has the typical walking sim problem of feeling artificially slow to pad out the game. Senua even looks like a dope when running, no one runs like that at such a slow speed!
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I'm still game to give hellblade a try sometimes soon despite me feeling the same way about the controls and puzzle design (mostly just from seeing the quick look, mind you)
It's not that long of a game right?
It's not that long of a game right?
Basileus777
Member
It's like 8-10 hours long.
Was it the enemies spawning behind you?
Because I know this is bullshit that gets trotted out for stuff like Spec Ops and other games in that "intentionally not necessarily good design" and whatnot, but..."it's supposed to be annoying".
I managed to get used to the timing of the voice lines to know when to block the enemies behind; it was super empowering to hear "Behind you!" and hit RB and successfully parry an attack I couldn't see. The latter half of the game, and especially the end, became almost a cakewalk for me because of that.
Basileus777
Member
It was more that I got stuck against geometry several times where I couldn't even use evade (and couldn't see what was going on due to no camera control) and it was frustrating not being able to select which enemies you locked onto.
That sucks that unintentional problems got in your way. Seriously, that sucks. Fuck bad geometry. But to the other thing, the right stick didn't flip you between enemies easily enough?