demosthenes said:So how much does Sony make per game sold?
$50 * 5.5million is 275 million. So Sony isn't hurting financially from this at all, right?
According to Pachter they get $48.
demosthenes said:So how much does Sony make per game sold?
$50 * 5.5million is 275 million. So Sony isn't hurting financially from this at all, right?
jett said:According to Pachter they get $48.
I heard Prologue alone covered their budgetdemosthenes said:Ok...so $264 million. Even if half of those were returned for a full refund they easily cover their budget and then some.
shagg_187 said:Wonder how many of it shipped to North America since NPD's 400K sold is pretty intriguing.
Teetris said:I heard Prologue alone covered their budget
TheExecutive said:Sold in what? 2 or 3 days?
demosthenes said:In a real business projects have individual budgets. So yea even though Prologue may have earned enough money to fund the whole of GT5, Sony still wants GT5 to be a commercial success on its own.
KingDizzi said:Yeah in a few days, watch it sell at best 60-70% of those few days for the whole month of December. We've heard this line for games like Killzone 2 and the second month was weaker, this game will do well finishing it's first shipment in NA. NA and Japan will probably not get another shipment again however EU? Insane first shipment however it's the only region where I have no doubt it will get more shipments. At worst 5 million in EU when it's all over.
TheExecutive said:Sold in what? 2 or 3 days?
Jal said:Further proof that Americans prefer shooting people to driving cars.
SolidSnakex said:Yeah, but the Prologue titles are really just small chunks of the full game that they put together to sell to consumers. I'm sure that we'll see one for GT6, assuming that it's not ready for the PS4 launch.
Jal said:Further proof that Americans prefer shooting people to driving cars.
SYNTAX182 said:GT5 is the Prologue for GT6. Akyuk
OuterWorldVoice said:We also enjoy shooting cars.
GodofWine said:And shooting people from cars...
Except it is most of the major players. Isn't Japan and UK both past 10% of worldwide sales, and US is something like 40% gave or take? I'd have to re-add up everything again, but you probably are at least looking at 50%+ of the market if not much more. The smaller countries do add up, but most of them are fractional compared to those 3.Haunted said:It's all we have.
GT1 - a good gameSolidSnakex said:Well, it kind of is if you look at the series history.
Twisted Metal to sell over 2mil opening month. Boom.TheSeks said:And turning cars into shooting machine gun cars.
-viper- said:GT1 - a good game
GT2 - a bigger and better version of GT1
GT3 - a good game
GT4 - a bigger and better version of GT3
GT5 - a good game.
GT6 - a bigger and better version of GT5?
Change "good" to "amazing" and I completely agree.Dash Kappei said:bullshit.
When GT3 came around it was like a tornado, people were blown away.
But in a good way
lucius said:It will do around 7-8 million in it's lifetime then trolls can still say "the series is dying" yet it still is bigger than Halo and Gears, both camps are happy.
JWong said:Laughable that anyone thinks poorly of the "400k" NA sales.
Remember that the "GT5 demo" prologue sold 5 million.
OldJadedGamer said:Not according to NPD.
Afrikan said:why are you bringing up NPD in a World Wide Shipped thread?
OJG, I'm surprised you don't have something NPD something, as a tag for as much as you have been mentioning it lately.
JWong said:Laughable that anyone thinks poorly of the "400k" NA sales.
i doubt GT5 will reach die hard fan status as Halolucius said:It will do around 7-8 million in it's lifetime then trolls can still say "the series is dying" yet it still is bigger than Halo and Gears, both camps are happy.
frAntic_Frog said:i doubt GT5 will reach die hard fan status as Halo
its a sim racer fer cryin out loud
still....6 million lifetime for a racer is head and shoulders above what 99% of racing games sell
Did you not see my 5 million GT5P?OldJadedGamer said:Because the person I quoted only used US sales?
JWong said:Did you not see my 5 million GT5P?
entrement said:Was there any doubt this game was going to sell in the multi millions?
-viper- said:GT1 - a good game
GT2 - a bigger and better version of GT1
GT3 - a good game
GT4 - a bigger and better version of GT3
GT5 - a good game.
GT6 - a bigger and better version of GT5?
No he isn't, but some people here are displaying the classic symptoms of damage control.belvedere said:Don't take it personally, he's displaying classic symptoms of post crow eating syndrome.
Animator said:Shit I don't know who to believe anymore. The NPD thread anti sony trolls or this.
manueldelalas said:No he isn't, but some people here are displaying the classic symptoms of damage control.
If you look at sales of GT5 Prologue in the charts available (NPD, Euroland charts and Japan), you'll see that the sold figure is much lower than the 5 million said ITT; the only explanation for this is bundles (which is a good explanation in this particular case).
The 5.5 million shipped units has no relation with the amount of units sold.
In Japan, the used copies are flooding the stores; that means, people will stop buying the new game because it is more expensive, and it is probable that new copies will go soon to the "bomba bins" or returned to Sony; but the fact is that it will stop selling really soon then.
In the USA the situation is also bad. PS3 owners there are "day one buyers", and the only game I can think that sold more on the second month than the first is LBP; many cases as GT5 have occurred during he PS3 lifetime, games that were released at the end of a month, thus tracking a little amount of days in NPD, but the big majority stops selling, because the PS3 audience has that behavior. I would expect another 300k or 400k units sold in December on US soil and thats it, and if I had to bet, I would say it could go to sell 900k LTD and not more (unless it gets bundled with every PS3... like GT5P).
In Europe the situation is currently unknown, but we all expect the game to sell a lot better than in the USA and Japan; but I don't expect it to get anywhere near the numbers of previous iterations of GT.
All in all, obviously GT5 isn't a bomba, but it's undeniable that it's sales are really disappointing, and it won't get to sell 10 million units, there is absolutely no chance for that. It's a shame, Sony let one of their best team work for 5 years on a single game, and the results are not good; it will probably cover the costs of making the game, but it probably wasn't a good inversion.
It is really simple. The people that bought a PS3 are not the same people that bought the PS1 or PS2. The audience behavior changes.UntoldDreams said:Good lord.
(Take a ban bet prove to everyone here your manly powers of deduction next)
I don't think you can draw those conclusions without a healthy dose of "my beliefs are justified and gospel". After so many iterations of Gran Turismo having a long tail of good sales and excellent PR... Why is it suddenly NOW a big issue? Go ahead logic it out for us.
what is the problem with bundles? million sellers like halo have also been bundled to death and never seen people talking about that.manueldelalas said:No he isn't, but some people here are displaying the classic symptoms of damage control.
If you look at sales of GT5 Prologue in the charts available (NPD, Euroland charts and Japan), you'll see that the sold figure is much lower than the 5 million said ITT; the only explanation for this is bundles (which is a good explanation in this particular case).
The 5.5 million shipped units has no relation with the amount of units sold.
In Japan, the used copies are flooding the stores; that means, people will stop buying the new game because it is more expensive, and it is probable that new copies will go soon to the "bomba bins" or returned to Sony; but the fact is that it will stop selling really soon then.
In the USA the situation is also bad. PS3 owners there are "day one buyers", and the only game I can think that sold more on the second month than the first is LBP; many cases as GT5 have occurred during he PS3 lifetime, games that were released at the end of a month, thus tracking a little amount of days in NPD, but the big majority stops selling, because the PS3 audience has that behavior. I would expect another 300k or 400k units sold in December on US soil and thats it, and if I had to bet, I would say it could go to sell 900k LTD and not more (unless it gets bundled with every PS3... like GT5P).
In Europe the situation is currently unknown, but we all expect the game to sell a lot better than in the USA and Japan; but I don't expect it to get anywhere near the numbers of previous iterations of GT.
All in all, obviously GT5 isn't a bomba, but it's undeniable that it's sales are really disappointing, and it won't get to sell 10 million units, there is absolutely no chance for that. It's a shame, Sony let one of their best team work for 5 years on a single game, and the results are not good; it will probably cover the costs of making the game, but it probably wasn't a good inversion.
manueldelalas said:It is really simple. The people that bought a PS3 are not the same people that bought the PS1 or PS2. The audience behavior changes.
PS1 and PS2 where consoles bought mostly by normal people, what some people call now "causal gamers". The PS3 has a different audience than its predecessors.
It has been proven many times now, and there is not a single PS3 games that has had the kind of legs you are talking about because of this simple fact.
manueldelalas said:It is really simple. The people that bought a PS3 are not the same people that bought the PS1 or PS2. The audience behavior changes.
PS1 and PS2 where consoles bought mostly by normal people, what some people call now "causal gamers". The PS3 has a different audience than its predecessors.
It has been proven many times now, and there is not a single PS3 games that has had the kind of legs you are talking about because of this simple fact.