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[.JayZii]

Neither side of the story sounds 100% true. Neither the photo nor the video prove either of their stories.

I think it's funny that people believe the guy did nothing wrong because he took a video of himself looking happy while she looks annoyed. People can't act like assholes and then look pleased with themselves after? News to me.

People assuming she should always be okay with being approached and talked at without being able to ask for some privacy does sound a lot like "we paid for you" whether it's put in those exact words or not.

 

[GhaleonEB]

The instagram video doesn't really exonerate him from being a jerk. He's being one in the video, then she asks him to delete it - clearly not wanting to be filmed - and later says she got mad about it. That sounds pretty in-line with her account, where she's photographed against her wishes and got mad at him.

 

[RBH]

Surely he must have shouted or something before that? No way everyone just looked at him like that because he took out a camera.

It's called flash

 

[googleplex]

I can't tell anything from either account.

But I will say this, celebs running to social media to unleash the wolves on random schmuck from the public is complete bullshit.

Whoever's fault it is, I think it's shitty to try and sic an internet mob on someone like that.

Where did you get that she was trying to sic and internet mob on anyone?

 

[BlazinAm]

Hello random celebrity

lol.

 

[Pepboy]

No one's using the word "monster," but she's visibly annoyed and upset at the intrusion, so what word would you use to describe someone who causes that feeling in another person and proceeds to smile and give himself a thumbs up?

I imagine as a mod you have a lot of threads to keep track of, but you might want to re-examine your initial estimate. The guy's account is private and according to OP, he only posted the video after Amy lambasted him to her 4 million followers. Watching the video, she says "That's rude." and he says "Sorry" and after she starts asking him to delete it, he puts the phone down. She showed no "visible annoyance" prior to him putting his thumb up (partly her sunglasses made this difficult).

It's unclear what she's referring to when she says "that's rude", but she still has her headphones in, so I doubt they had a long conversation prior to this. Following the event, it seems he did not post the video? Instead, she doxxes him to 4 million followers (sharing private information, particularly where he lives and his face). She goes out of her way to say specifically that he is the sole reason she will never take photos with fans again.

I also wonder how you would have responded the same way if the video was not of a black man, i.e. if you would still perceive his actions as those of a "monster". Here's a recent article reviewing studies that you might find illuminating:

http://kulturekritic.com/2015/10/ne...ied-white-people-are-of-black-sounding-names/

 

[TheSpoiler]

The instagram video doesn't really exonerate him from being a jerk. He's being one in the video, then she asks him to delete it - clearly not wanting to be filmed - and later says she got mad about it. That sounds pretty in-line with her account, where she's photographed against her wishes and got mad at him.

I'm a little too "close" with the guy (not even friends, but just know him through mutual people, you know), so I'm not exactly the best person to commentate on this issue. But you are right - the video of him doesn't show the crowd of people he said was around, or that she said that she'd post it in instagram with that intent.

I imagine as a mod you have a lot of threads to keep track of, but you might want to re-examine your initial estimate. The guy's account is private and according to OP, he only posted the video after Amy lambasted him to her 4 million followers. Watching the video, she says "That's rude." and he says "Sorry" and after she starts asking him to delete it, he puts the phone down. She showed no "visible annoyance" prior to him putting his thumb up (partly her sunglasses made this difficult).

It's unclear what she's referring to when she says "that's rude", but she still has her headphones in, so I doubt they had a long conversation prior to this. Following the event, it seems he did not post the video? Instead, she doxxes him to 4 million followers (sharing private information, particularly where he lives and his face). She goes out of her way to say specifically that he is the sole reason she will never take photos with fans again.

I also wonder how you would have responded the same way if the video was not of a black man, i.e. if you would still perceive his actions as those of a "monster". Here's a recent article reviewing studies that you might find illuminating:

http://kulturekritic.com/2015/10/ne...ied-white-people-are-of-black-sounding-names/

It's not within the realm of impossibility that he could have taken more photos or videos before or after he put the phone down.

And I wouldn't start calling race into this, man. You have no idea what race faceless is, so that might be moot.

I mean, this could all land squarely in the middle here.

 

[thecosmicfly]

For some reason I want to see Amy's face photoshopped onto his thumb.

Here you go.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I imagine as a mod you have a lot of threads to keep track of, but you might want to re-examine your initial estimate. The guy's account is private and according to OP, he only posted the video after Amy lambasted him to her 4 million followers. Watching the video, she says "That's rude." and he says "Sorry" and after she starts asking him to delete it, he puts the phone down. She showed no "visible annoyance" prior to him putting his thumb up (partly her sunglasses made this difficult).

It's unclear what she's referring to when she says "that's rude", but she still has her headphones in, so I doubt they had a long conversation prior to this. Following the event, it seems he did not post the video? Instead, she doxxes him to 4 million followers (sharing private information, particularly where he lives and his face). She goes out of her way to say specifically that he is the sole reason she will never take photos with fans again.

I also wonder how you would have responded the same way if the video was not of a black man, i.e. if you would still perceive his actions as those of a "monster". Here's a recent article reviewing studies that you might find illuminating:

http://kulturekritic.com/2015/10/ne...ied-white-people-are-of-black-sounding-names/

No one called him a monster. That's literally what the post you quoted says.

 

[TheSeks]

http://i.imgur.com/t1xyfYz.gif

I haven't seen this in years. I've been meaning to ask: Where is this from?

 

[Pepboy]

No one called him a monster. That's literally what the post you quoted says.

The mod post more or less says "No one has called him a monster, but what (else) would we call him when he does these terrible things?" It's implicitly agreeing that his actions are those of a "monster". If I misunderstood the mod's intent, then I apologize.

 

[Toa TAK]

Hello random celebrity

Just wait... years from now it'll be featured in the equivalent of a "Historical Photos" Twitter account.

 

[excelsiorlef]

The mod post more or less says "No one has called him a monster, but what (else) would we call him when he does these terrible things?" It's implicitly agreeing that his actions are those of a "monster". If I misunderstood the mod's intent, then I apologize.

More like no one is calling him a monster but something like asshole works.

The dude's actions are those of an asshole.

Post was a reply to a gut who us outright denying that the guy did anything wrong uo to amd including invoking the publuc made her do she owes them line of thought.

That was the point of the post. No one is calling him a monster but his actions are not benign.

 

[googleplex]

I imagine as a mod you have a lot of threads to keep track of, but you might want to re-examine your initial estimate. The guy's account is private and according to OP, he only posted the video after Amy lambasted him to her 4 million followers. Watching the video, she says "That's rude." and he says "Sorry" and after she starts asking him to delete it, he puts the phone down. She showed no "visible annoyance" prior to him putting his thumb up (partly her sunglasses made this difficult).

It's unclear what she's referring to when she says "that's rude", but she still has her headphones in, so I doubt they had a long conversation prior to this. Following the event, it seems he did not post the video? Instead, she doxxes him to 4 million followers (sharing private information, particularly where he lives and his face). She goes out of her way to say specifically that he is the sole reason she will never take photos with fans again.

I also wonder how you would have responded the same way if the video was not of a black man, i.e. if you would still perceive his actions as those of a "monster". Here's a recent article reviewing studies that you might find illuminating:

http://kulturekritic.com/2015/10/ne...ied-white-people-are-of-black-sounding-names/

So not only is posting about a irritable event that actually happened to her on Instagram Doxxing. But she's now she's bigoted against black people?

Dude you should dial it back.

 

[Bigfoot]

So not only is posting about a irritable event that actually happened to her on Instagram Doxxing. But she's now she's bigoted against black people?

Dude you should dial it back.

There is no reason she had to post his picture. She could have posted the event but left his face out of it.

As for the black thing, who knows? Not sure if she has a history of that.

 

[.JayZii]

I imagine as a mod you have a lot of threads to keep track of, but you might want to re-examine your initial estimate. The guy's account is private and according to OP, he only posted the video after Amy lambasted him to her 4 million followers. Watching the video, she says "That's rude." and he says "Sorry" and after she starts asking him to delete it, he puts the phone down. She showed no "visible annoyance" prior to him putting his thumb up (partly her sunglasses made this difficult).

It's unclear what she's referring to when she says "that's rude", but she still has her headphones in, so I doubt they had a long conversation prior to this. Following the event, it seems he did not post the video? Instead, she doxxes him to 4 million followers (sharing private information, particularly where he lives and his face). She goes out of her way to say specifically that he is the sole reason she will never take photos with fans again.

I also wonder how you would have responded the same way if the video was not of a black man, i.e. if you would still perceive his actions as those of a "monster". Here's a recent article reviewing studies that you might find illuminating:

http://kulturekritic.com/2015/10/ne...ied-white-people-are-of-black-sounding-names/

You don't think it's possible she put her headphones back in after their confrontation, he went to take another shot of her with him giving a thumbs up and she took them back out to say "that's rude" and "can you delete that?"? Then he later posted a 3 second video edited by himself that makes him look not so bad, but still kind of shitty, so he must have done nothing wrong?

Nobody called this guy a "monster", a person defending him said people criticizing him were calling him a monster. Hyperbole becomes quotable fact, just like that.

I don't think this was a race thing at all, but thanks for linking the unrelated study.

 

[Nipo]

So famous person out in public gets mad when someone takes their photo? Deal with it you're grossly over compensated in part because you're sacrificing a lot of your privacy.

 

[Mechanized]

I would describe someone that is apparently so happy to meet a celebrity they have angered and annoyed to be a total monster.

 

[TheSeks]

 

Eh, if he asked and she allowed it: It's kinda a dick move to bitch about it right after. If he didn't and she only played along to be nice, then yeah. I can see where she's coming from.

So famous person out in public gets mad when someone takes their photo? Deal with it you're grossly over compensated in part because you're sacrificing a lot of your privacy.

While I understand this mindview, sometimes they don't want to be bothered. Asking nicely for a photo and if they decline: You should take that decline and go away. Not be extremely pushy and a total ass to them because "LOL YOU'RE A CELEBRITY YOU SHOULD BE USED TO NOT HAVING ANY PRIVACY."

 

[excelsiorlef]

So famous person out in public gets mad when someone takes their photo? Deal with it you're grossly over compensated in part because you're sacrificing a lot of your privacy.

No

 

[Alienous]

I'm not sure he knows how much he annoyed her at the time. He's turned away from her when he's smiling, so he can't read her facial expressions, and he doesn't seem too happy with himself afterwards.

 

[gogogow]

Hello random celebrity

Haha...everyone in that picture has a "wtf dude" face.

 

[faceless007]

The mod post more or less says "No one has called him a monster, but what (else) would we call him when he does these terrible things?" It's implicitly agreeing that his actions are those of a "monster". If I misunderstood the mod's intent, then I apologize.

You did. Other posters after you correctly intuited my point.

It's hard to have a discussion if simply responding to hyperbole is automatically assumed to be hyperbole in the opposite direction.

 

[LaNaranja]

Here you go.

I can't be the only one seeing Dave Lang on his thumb here.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

Hello random celebrity

So good

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

Where did you get that she was trying to sic and internet mob on anyone?

Already explained it in the last page. "I'm not taking any more photos with people because of this dude in Greenville.' followed up with his picture sounds like a call out.

I'll concede that she probably was just making an example of him to warn people not to take photos without permission. But I don't have that faith in her fans, or really any fanbases in general to show restraint whenever their favorite celebrity calls someone out like that.

 

[v0yce]

Edit: I should iterate, for whatever it's worth, that I know of this guy through my group of friends, and he'd never do this sort of thing. Just an odd situation all around.

Never do what sort of thing? Because by his own admission he heard there was a celeb nearby and immediately pulled out his camera to Instagram it. That's pretty lame itself but the video he posts grinning like an idiot with thumbs up in front of annoyed celeb asking him to delete it is total a-hole material.

 

[| Praxis |]

I will never understand people's fascination with celebrities, especially the need to take a photo. If I was famous I would be pissed if some random just started taking pics.

 

[Nokagi]

I will never understand people's fascination with celebrities, especially the need to take a photo. If I was famous I would be pissed if some random just started taking pics.

Well you would be constantly pissed off.

 

[stump sock]

I will never understand people's fascination with celebrities, especially the need to take a photo. If I was famous I would be pissed if some random just started taking pics.

as someone who has had a fair amount of contact with "celebrities" through previous jobs and volunteering and stuff, I still don't understand the appeal. at this point I'm just relieved when you find one that acts like a normal person.

 

[EloquentM]

I have no problems with her feelings on the matter, because people don't give a shit about celebrities being like everyone else for the most part. What she can do that isn't like everyone else is use that fame to directly or indirectly harass someone much worse than what she just experienced, which I don't think is right. It really is fucked up that she posted a picture of him and revealed the area he was located. It's really not hard for people on the Internet to find you if they have the motivation. He's a complete asshole for this, but a message without any contextual details would've sufficed.

 

[PAULINK]

Asking to take pictures with celebs is pretty intimidating, when they are in a public space. it's best to leave them alone, unless they are actively taking photos with people.

 

[EloquentM]

Asking to take pictures with celebs is pretty intimidating, when they are in a public space. it's best to leave them alone, unless they are actively taking photos with people.

Even If there's a picture group going on you should still ask lol.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Never do what sort of thing? Because by his own admission he heard there was a celeb nearby and immediately pulled out his camera to Instagram it. That's pretty lame itself but the video he posts grinning like an idiot with thumbs up in front of annoyed celeb asking him to delete it is total a-hole material.

The tirade, as I've noted many times in this thread.

 

[Ran rp]

I can't be the only one seeing Dave Lang on his thumb here.

how are you not seeing trump

 

[nhlducks35]

probably had his flash on and it was super obvious. I laugh every time I see that picture

It wasn't an accident

 

[stump sock]

It wasn't an accident

hah that last one is perfect

 

[BreezyLimbo]

It wasn't an accident

Ok now thats super creepu as fuck when you show those pictures in line. Even Im feeling uncomfortable looking at that.

 

[freenudemacusers]

In the last one she's thinking 'so this is how I die'

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

In the last one she's thinking 'so this is how I die'

"Maybe if I ignore him he'll go away....He's still here."

 

[DiscoJer]

There was a recent Corona about this, with Benecio del Toro being mistaken for Antonio Banderas.

I'm sure it's annoying as hell, but it's part of being famous.

 

[Huge Succeeded]

I mean I don't want to rule this out of possibility, but what are the actual odds somebody really said this to her

Have you ever lived in midwestern America?

People can be real self-righteous fuckin cunts out here

 

[ldcommando]

It wasn't an accident

*screams internally*

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Some people are weird about celebs in public. This dude's entire point based on the picture and video seems to be more about him than the celebrity, so why even take a picture? Comes across as the kind of guy that's just desperate for social media attention, rather than someone who just genuinely wanted a picture with a person who's work he enjoys.

 

[excelsiorlef]

There was a recent Corona about this, with Benecio del Toro being mistaken for Antonio Banderas.

I'm sure it's annoying as hell, but it's part of being famous.

No it's not. And we should stop pretending it is.

 

[Nickle]

It wasn't an accident

lol

 

[JasonV]

It wasn't an accident

Wow. I've seen that picture so many times I didn't know there more shots. It gets better (worse) with each one.

 

[Broken Joystick]

The guy that took that Moretz photo was revealed to have been kind of a crazy stalker type IIRC.

"Waited Outside Her Hotel for 46hrs Straight for this Opportunity. Worth it".

 

[JasonV]

"Waited Outside Her Hotel for 46hrs Straight for this Opportunity. Worth it".

Oh god so that's the guy? I hope she's got killer security.

 

[| Praxis |]

Well you would be constantly pissed off.

I'm not celebrity material then. There goes my dreams.