I think most people have not told you to shut up and take it. I think they've said vote with your wallet. Who has said to shut up and take it, and be silent?
TOS and EULAS are not legally binding.Can't always have it your way.
But lets face it, it would be bad if IP owners have no control over how their product gets used once it hits open market. This is where TOS/EULAs, etc., come in.
I'm sure thats going to convince all the people who haven't already bought it to... not buy it, now... right?
Except for Blops 2 and WaW coming at second. Both having more people playing than Street Fighter.
TOS and EULAS are not legally binding.
I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.
Yeah you're right, where are the times where we ignited some cars to draw attention.
Right?
Depends on the country. Where I live they are binding up till a certain point and they never overrule the law.TOS and EULAS are not legally binding.
Doesn't change the fact that steam reviews are trash. Just a long line of examples where reviews aren't reliable to judge the actual game. You'll find examples of players with 2-4 thousand hours played in a game and not recommending it. It's gotten worse over time too.
No its perfect. Having power over evil corps feels good, they are like our bitches now.I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.
If they can significantly damage the revenue of a company that fucks with consumers rights it means they work perfectly.Doesn't change the fact that steam reviews are trash. Just a long line of examples where reviews aren't reliable to judge the actual game. You'll find examples of players with 2-4 thousand hours played in a game and not recommending it. It's gotten worse over time too.
It's great that gamers are taking a stand against these bullshit practices.
Why do people consider negative reviews such an extreme and terrible action? It's just a review.
Or are you that guy in review threads? You know, that guy, there's always at least one.
The corporate apology in this topic is disgusting.
I don't support Rockstar/Take Two's decision but man this is just another example of why Steam reviews are such trash.
Good.
Not surprised with the Take 2 defense force. It's NeoGAF after all.
This is good. It gives Rockstar ammo to lean on Take Two with. Good on the community.
I agree. This isn't just some fringe community. People have been modding these games for a decade and a half now. In regards to multiplayer, they've been creating multiplayer alternatives before GTA even had multiplayer (with 200 player count servers, custom gamemodes on custom maps and everything).
I don't see the problem with negatively reviewing the game as a result of this. It's the only long-term action people can take that the publisher and the press will notice. A lot of people (justifiably) feel like they were stabbed in the back. Sure, it's easy to say "just vote with your wallet" but we weren't the ones buying shark cards in the first place and that's the dumbest thing about this whole situation. Take Two and Rockstar are ruining a good thing and rocking the boat over literally nothing. They have nothing to gain from this.
Such an ignorant way to see things. If anything deserves a negative review it's the company, not the game. This doesn't affect the quality of the original game in anyway and people posting negative reviews of it just look fucking stupid imo.
Such an ignorant way to see things. If anything deserves a negative review it's the company, not the game. This doesn't affect the quality of the original game in anyway and people posting negative reviews of it just look fucking stupid imo.
Such an ignorant way to see things. If anything deserves a negative review it's the company, not the game. This doesn't affect the quality of the original game in anyway and people posting negative reviews of it just look fucking stupid imo.
Such an ignorant way to see things. If anything deserves a negative review it's the company, not the game. This doesn't affect the quality of the original game in anyway and people posting negative reviews of it just look fucking stupid imo.
The toilet where their negativity belongs, obviously .And where do people go to voice their concerns?
Anything that *could* negatively effect their favorite developer or *somehow* cause a series they like to receive less sales makes people lose their dam mind, regardless how shitty the company may act.
NEOGAF constantly surprises me with this. When people come to the defense of corporations doing shitty things because "they can its their product".
Such an ignorant way to see things. If anything deserves a negative review it's the company, not the game. This doesn't affect the quality of the original game in anyway and people posting negative reviews of it just look fucking stupid imo.
The game continues to sell quite steadily. Having an effect going forward would be good enough. As much as people want to keep recycling the tired old rhetoric of "well they already sold a lot lol", publishers do care a lot about review scores and word of mouth, especially if the game in question is still being purchased on a regular basis, and requires a steady stream of players to purchases their in-game currency.All those people who somehow never noticed that GTA:O is just a system to get as much money from you as humanly possible.
DLC FOR FREE! Lol, yeah right, takes 1 million hours to be able to afford everything or 500 euro's worth of Shark Cards.
Don't get me wrong though, the Online part of the game is fun, but ONLY when you have a couple friends and just fool around, go racing or just do some heists.
I like the idea, but I just don't see how giving a bad rating to a game on Steam is going to have any effect on it's sales. Most people, if not all, already have the game by now.
It's the same as holding hands and sing near a beautiful campfire soon after something terrible has happened somewhere in the world.
Was just going to comment on the same thing. Odd how do msny are calling it extreme, while simultaneously arguing that it's not effective and people shouldn't bother. If it's a wasted effort, then what exactly about it is extreme? Which is it?What's funny is that they say that it is an excessive action, while simultaneously implying that it is not effective.
If you think that the average consumer doesn't read steam reviews, I've got a bridge to sell you. Plus, this is a massive hit on the goodwill for T2 and R*, which will impact their future games. They are the ones who stand to lose the most from this.
Btw, I AM going to vote with my wallet by not buying this game.
I think that the decision to effectively ban mods might be a move to introduce paid mods sanctioned by T2 in the future. I have no proof of this, but even if I was right on the money, this would be a phenomenally dumb move on their part.
Anything that *could* negatively effect their favorite developer or *somehow* cause a series they like to receive less sales makes people lose their dam mind, regardless how shitty the company may act.
What are user reviews there for in the first place?
are they
a) to register your satisfaction/dissatisfaction to the publisher
or
b) to help your fellow users?
They are not mutually exclusive.
I'm pretty sure those two things are very much in conflict right now. People are leaving negative reviews while conceding the game is not a bad game.
I have no idea why people have an issue with voicing their concerns through Steam reviews.
The way I see it is I go Steam, find a game I'm interested in and notice there's a ton of negative reviews. It immediately makes me check out why people are hating it. So I read the reviews and see what's up, and at that point I can decide for myself whether the negativity bothers me personally and I either buy it or I don't.
What this is doing to GTA V is letting others know there's a serious issue with the game. They can decide for themselves whether mods not being allowed is something that affects them. For some it will, so they don't buy it. If people don't give a shit about mods they'll still buy it.
Where's the issue?