VincentMatts
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Might also influence the next game if the population stays constant
and whats the problem with the BR? its amazing
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Might also influence the next game if the population stays constant
and whats the problem with the BR? its amazing
Its too easy to use at every range. So it feels oppressive, especially on smaller maps like guardian.
Every gun in the game is tuned to be used against people who are sprinting sliding and thrusting. So when you are using them against people who are moving at a reduced run speed (like in this playlist) they become even more effective. The BR is the one that annoys me the most because it's naturally the one being used all the time.
Anyway i booted up my xbox before work so i could play fortnite BR, when i noticed that the shield issue was fixed. So i played halo 5 instead.. not sure when I'll get to fortnite now.
VincentMatts
Member
it is good, but thats why i like it. it could probably use a dumb down on the range, but i wouldnt touch anything else on it
The last thing I care about is if you agree with me or not.
I love you.
And Wulff better not be the one screencapping stuff. Lol
Also curiouscharles you will get to the point where we are. But if you after all the stuff that was laid out here still don't think 343 doesn't handle it like they should (I mean the franchise and games in general) then I don't know.... but seems like you have a great chance of getting hired with this attitude
I miss juices and kylej they called this behaviour by 343 out years ago, hiring nice people from community sites eventhough their talents are not the best in the field.
Thanks lol - I just want Halo to be a premiere shooter again.
Look, he never named names. Any rational person can see it was simply hyperbole. I would have never taken offense to it working at 343. If he called out specific names, then there would have been some kind of case for these arguments.
Well good for you dude, you are not all of 343, someone in those 100's of people probably did take offense to it and I personally would not want to work with someone who said that regardless of the job as I have already had to do that and it was awful. It already sounds like he is making good steps to improving and even he can admit what he said was dumb and doesn't need anyone apologizing for him. I am happy that he isn't being a PDP and doubling down on it after apologizing either and hopefully he can get picked up somewhere else after everything cleans up.
I have been at the pointy end of his criticisms on many occasions and this is exactly how i feel on the subject. It's unfortunate that his frustrations turned his passion into poison. I am REALLY hoping 343 take another look at him down the road.
I like everything about the test BR accept the random spread. Give it the original BRs static spread, and it would be perfect IMO.
Yeah. Hopefully he keeps forging and works on repairing his image and mending relationships. I was really excited about what he would bring to the table not only in the game, but in terms representing an olive branch between 343 and the competitive community.
I mean yeah if he proves he can change his attitude then there is no reason for 343 not to reconsider him, just not enough time has passed yet to really give that reconsideration.
EvilChameleon
Member
So I guess with them rescinding that job offer, we'll have the same boring maps to not look forward to in Halo 6.
Can't wait for remixes to return! *roll eyes*
Can't wait for remixes to return! *roll eyes*
Leyasu
Banned
Lol just wait and see what surprises they have in store for BTB
Again, guy was a great designer, doesn't mean he is the best. They are looking for a designer so the maps can still be very good without him
VincentMatts
Member
Original as in Halo2 one? i like that one too, although i like the effectiveness of this one
EvilChameleon
Member
I think the best thing for all involved is to delay the release of this another year to 2019. Next year is going to be fierce competition, with a Treyarch COD, and another Battlefield. If you don't come to the party with competent maps, you're going to get bricked.
Samurai G0SU
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i expect 2018 to be the time of hype for halo 6 with a release in 2019 SEPT, this will also allow the GEARS franchise to have another year....
Who am i kidding, they will change up the marketing and it'll be a 2018 release with an all out marketing blitz of halo, halo, halo starting from Spring 2018 until release. They would want to own all marketing headlines along with the newly established install base of the xbox one x. a lot of ammo to use for marketing, from what my peasant eyes can see. ride that train of the most powerful console.
i wonder how many people will want to buy an xbox one x when RDR2 comes out with that face off detailing how much better it looks on the 1x.
Who am i kidding, they will change up the marketing and it'll be a 2018 release with an all out marketing blitz of halo, halo, halo starting from Spring 2018 until release. They would want to own all marketing headlines along with the newly established install base of the xbox one x. a lot of ammo to use for marketing, from what my peasant eyes can see. ride that train of the most powerful console.
i wonder how many people will want to buy an xbox one x when RDR2 comes out with that face off detailing how much better it looks on the 1x.
VincentMatts
Member
Maps arent designed by one guy
Until he writes a sincere apology to those he instigated witch hunts against, which goes way beyond criticism, 343 should never look at him because it sends the wrong message. Honestly, not even then, considering the level of creepy shit he's posted.
His current 'ya got me' posts are crocodile tears. He went from saying he hadn't done anything to "oh yeah, but at least my witchhunt video got rid of the CCs anyway!". He's been disingenious with this entire episode, and has learned nothing.
It's irrelevant how good your handskill is if you're incapable of working on a team and are constantly abusing your peers.
edit: actually, after more of his stuff has come to light, we don't need his maps if he's going to brag about calling his co-workers insane and threatening assault.
If map design had any influence on sales the COD franchise would have faltered long ago.
Then you need to become the hero Halo needs.
Your outlook functions on the false premise that there are no people who are good at their job and not assholes. In reality, that doesn't seem to be a problem, especially when you're part of an industry that constantly has new people jockeying for jobs.
I'd say he's learned a lesson, if not "I should not make personal attacks." He's painfully aware now that if he went talking to the press or blew up at 343, he would be torpedoing his chances working in the games industry. Few companies would want to touch him if he'd fought back. The people interpreting this action as him "being the bigger man" are missing the self-preservation going on here.
VincentMatts
Member
Yeah, the lesson is: make personal attacks and you can become president of the united states.
If you're rich, famous, and Republican, yeah, that'll work for you. For most everyone else, you get the horns.
I meant the Original h5 BR.
I'd like the Test BR with the spread of the H5 BR. I think that would work well on h3 maps...
I don't remember the original Halo 5 BR having spread at all, the bullets were following the same clear on-forward line.
Thruster encourage people to fly away as soon as they feel they may lose a fight (which is really annoying to me). I don't feel like this is the Halo spirit sincerely, glad it's not there.
The only thing I miss is clamber since some jumps aren't 1:1 and don't work anymore.
I'm with Trup on this one ↓↓↓↓
I keep tapping thrust instinctively when i get shot.
It reminds me how much i used it as a free get-out-of-jail card.
Now i have to move intelligently. And people who mess up around me aren't getting away. I love it.
You consider it a get out of jail free card, I consider it as a tool which allows me to take more risks.
It forces you to be more risk averse and therefore makes the game less exciting.
The playlist also just feels so much slower than normal H5.
VincentMatts
Member
so wanting to back away from a losing fight isnt in the halo "spirit"? Thats news to me
There is a difference between strategically using cover & environment to get your shield back and outsmart your opponent and just press a button to run away from a fight with unpredictable omnidirectional mouvement.
On top of that, I said thruster encourage people to run away, and then that encouraging people to run away isn't the spirit of Halo, not the player wanting to back away.
I know you are smarter than that Vincent, so please, if you can quote me, quote me word by word and don't just put words into my mouth that I never said. We both know you can make the difference between the game giving you a tool that will inevitably encourage a certain type of behavior from a vaste majority of player, and the player using basic movement mechanic available since the first game to create its own strategy.
If not, this plus Destiny being classic Halo evolved, then we are definitely not playing the same game.
Thanks buddy!
There is a difference between strategically using cover & environment to get your shield back and outsmart your opponent and just press a button to run away from a fight with unpredictable omnidirectional mouvement.
On top of that, I said thruster encourage people to run away, and then that encouraging people to run away isn't the spirit of Halo, not the player wanting to back away.
I know you are smarter than that Vincent, so please, if you can quote me, quote me word by word and don't just put words into my mouth that I never said. We both know you can make the difference between the game giving you a tool that will inevitably encourage a certain type of behavior from a vaste majority of player, and the player using basic movement mechanic available since the first game to create its own strategy.
If not, this plus Destiny being classic Halo evolved, then we are definitely not playing the same game.
Thrust isn't a magical button which saves you from any dangerous sitaution. You still need to have good map awareness and movement to outsmart your opponent.
I also completely disagree that thrust encourages people to run away. It encourages the exact opposite of that. It allows players to move out further, engage and generally take more risks.
We need datas to consider this!!!
Jokes aside, I genuinely don't think average players see this button the same way as you do, really. They either are using Thruster to move faster in the map, not to take risk but just to get a sense of moving faster, or use it during a duel to either move away if they feel they are losing, or try to outsmart the opponent.
Outsmarting someone doesn't encourage taking risk more as strafing during a duel encourage you to.
Putting power weapon on a map encourage flow and mouvement, and risk since you are forced to move if you want to get the appropriate power tool.
I'm sure people will see the thruster the way you do jem, and usually, I disagree with you on most of your opinion regarding Halo 5, as much as you like the game and I don't, so I'm not surprised we don't share a similar opinion here.
FATstronaut
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Its not really taking a risk if you have a safety net.
The concept of risk implies a chance of punishment. The availability of the thruster significantly reduces the chance of punishment - making decisons that WOULD BE risky, much less so.
Not having thruster doesnt force you to be risk averse. It just forces you to be more cognizant of when you are actually doing something risky.
VincentMatts
Member
Gee I dont think youre biased at all on this subject!
Fata1moose
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EvilChameleon
Member
NO MORE FORGE MAPS AT LAUNCH
It was a garbage move in Reach, and it was a garbage move in Halo 5.
A playlist a month or two down the line? Sure. Fine. Whatever. Day one? Just screams "we didn't have any good ideas for maps, so here are a bunch of boring grey maps".
Well considering Forge didn't exist at launch for Halo 5, it's an interesting proposition.
EvilChameleon
Member
But there were Forge-made maps in the game at launch.
Ok I tried the playlist today. The praise is unjustified, the game still isn't able to run fluid on forge maps, the maps are very well crafted, though I wish other maps were done.
Guardian, Pit and Citadel are awesome though. Can we please just have Halo 6 news or Halo 3 on PC.
Guardian, Pit and Citadel are awesome though. Can we please just have Halo 6 news or Halo 3 on PC.
I don't know how you do that. The settings are fine now and the playlist is better than before, but the OP BR and the overall sandbox keep me away from enjoying any game in this playlist. Guardian is a nightmare, Citadel is only playing one base from another one thanks to the OP BR, same for snowbound...
I would rather prefer play Halo 3 on the MCC since it's also 60fps.
At least, it clearly demonstrated Halo can still work with classic settings, according the sandbox and the maps fit the gameplay.
I don't think it screams "we didn't have any good ideas" as much as "We don't have enough ressources to give those ideas a proper dev workflow".
I mean, you still need ideas to create forge maps, behind level design ideas or gameplay flow, but creating the grey-boxing test area, the geometry, textures, shaders, cache-files took way more time than testing your ideas within the Forge and ship the maps as validated-somehow-good-looking greybox maps.
Halo Online 0.60 is out this weekend isn't it? No idea if year about that is allowed or not though but I'll probably pass, I just want Halo 6
I didn't get Halo Online to run the last time I tried, but worth a try I guess.
Yeah Halo 6 on PC is needed at this point.
I also forgot how easy it is to snipe in Halo 5
Pegasus, Osiris, and all of the breakout maps were made in Forge, released at launch.
Oh it's going to happen for sure
Yep. Doesn't excuse a lack of dev content, but I'd like Forgers to get a good map or two ready to go at launch (this is assuming that they've learned their lesson and realize that Halo's biggest strength at this point is the combo of custom games browser and custom maps.)