That's what I meant.
Why does it do that? The remastered versions of Halo 1 and 3 aren't doing it. Why only Halo 2?
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Halo TMCC Full Campaign Preview (H2A runs at 1328 x 1080 native)
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That's what I meant.
Why does it do that? The remastered versions of Halo 1 and 3 aren't doing it. Why only Halo 2?
The remastered version of Halo 1 is.
People are talking about it because they sacrificed the resolution for a feature!
Halo 3 isn't remastered. It just runs at a higher framerate and resolution.
Halo CEA is two engines but when you switch the game has to load assets. With H2A, since the two engines are running in sync, the switch is instantaneous.
No one needs to defend anything. 4 great games. We all know who's complaining. The side that thinks it's still resolution that makes a good game. They need to realise that every one knows the Xbox One isn't some ridiculous power house. I honestly can't believe people are still trying to argue the resolution thing after the consoles been out for a year lol. I just laugh because I know IMHO that the most powerful system is having the worsed year for first party line up and it should be a wake up call for them... But it won't be. I'll take substance over flash in the pan graphics thanks
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
I'll be honest, the thought of marathoning
through all mainland Halo games is really fucking tempting me to get an XB1...
hehehe
SlipperyMoose
Member
Anyone upset over this or making a big deal about it needs to move on. This package is beyond generous.
That IGN preview got me really hyped.I never played Halo 1 Anniversary and I am really eager to experience it in 1080p/60fps.Anniversary 2 sounds amazing too.
I still can't really forgive them that Halo 4 map pack bullshit and their made up explanation for it but I am weak and will buy it probably day one.
I only hope that so many games in one won't split multiplayer community too much.
I still can't really forgive them that Halo 4 map pack bullshit and their made up explanation for it but I am weak and will buy it probably day one.
I only hope that so many games in one won't split multiplayer community too much.
I agree with this. The Halo 4 medals are just....off. Same with the announcer. I know its the same guy, but the work he did on Halo 4 was by far his weakest. I'm sure it was by design to speed up his delivery, but his Halo 2 and Halo 3 call outs were by far the best.
Nov 11th is the 10th Anniversary of Halo 2. So it gets the Anniversary treatment.
Keep fighting the good fight, soldier.
It's not like the resolution wars wouldn't have begun even if Microsoft put more power in the box. People will always find something to complain about.
This thread really shows how fickle GAF can be.
You have people out there that would have rather have 60fps than 1080p in other threads out there, but then there's people that still find it's a problem at this res even though they said in the article that they initially aimed for 60fps at 720p.
If that's what they could achieve with two graphical engines & two audio engines at the same time with an instantaneous switch, then I'm happy. Especially since they decided not to just settle for 720p like they initially achieved. I personally appreciate the ability to instantly switch between the old and new instead of just a new version done up and shipped out for some cash. By making efforts like these its shows that there was some love and care that went into this.
All I know is that the whole package looks amazing from the IGN video shown, and that no other collection package can touch this. November is going to be a great time.
At the very least, I'm glad that the resolution talk can be talked about here, and it better not end up in the official thread whenever that gets posted.
You have people out there that would have rather have 60fps than 1080p in other threads out there, but then there's people that still find it's a problem at this res even though they said in the article that they initially aimed for 60fps at 720p.
If that's what they could achieve with two graphical engines & two audio engines at the same time with an instantaneous switch, then I'm happy. Especially since they decided not to just settle for 720p like they initially achieved. I personally appreciate the ability to instantly switch between the old and new instead of just a new version done up and shipped out for some cash. By making efforts like these its shows that there was some love and care that went into this.
All I know is that the whole package looks amazing from the IGN video shown, and that no other collection package can touch this. November is going to be a great time.
At the very least, I'm glad that the resolution talk can be talked about here, and it better not end up in the official thread whenever that gets posted.
Halo 3 looks really good IRL tho. You really have to see them all running on a big, nice TV. Movies do it some justice, but the IQ on a big screen is surprising.
Dictator93
Member
those gifs look sweeeeet
A feature the devs wanted. Who are you to say they shouldn't make the package the way they want?
CloudyTuba
Member
So that's what "cinematic pixel counts" meant. My prediction was somewhere around 1,536,000 since that is comparable to a bluray movie minus the unused black bars.
I guess that was just a nicer way of saying "around 900p which is almost a bluray if you want to stay positive and bend the truth a little."
Though considering its running two engines at once and this is on the xbox, 900p is actually impressive enough since other xbone games running only 1 engine get stuck at 900p. I dont see why it needs to change so fast on the fly, though. Make the change a start button option that takes some time to switch and bump it up to 1080.
You can find DOZENS of quotes from me, including interviews and posts on this very forum, where I addressed this openly and honestly for months, including at the E3 reveal. There's no reason why you should be aware of every interview I ever do, but let me be clear that we have NEVER deliberately implied anything of the sort.
Bry0
Member
Can't wait to see that gorgeous Halo 3 water in 1080p.
Let the sweet liquid flow around my feet.
Which reminds me, what about old custom forge maps? Will I need to remake Water World from scratch?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
What kind of resolution even is 1328 by 1080.
That isn't 16:9. Is it 12:10 or something?
That isn't 16:9. Is it 12:10 or something?
akidnamededdy
Banned
Haha yeah. They definitely raised the bar up for re-masters
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Yeah I'm surprised there's not an abundance of 60fps videos by now.
Great news that everything else maintains the 1080/60.
shinobi602
Member
I'm pretty sure the remastered version of Halo CEA has instant switching now...correct me if I'm wrong anybody.
ProvenDeadly
Member
I'm still awaiting CE MP footage.
CloudyTuba
Member
Apparently it does happen and it hurts me like a knife slowly turning in my side. I will forever disagree with misuse no matter how the dictionaries change.
Yes, the switch is instantaneous now
Sure, but don't be surprised when consumer show frustration at that choice.
Reallink
Member
My exposure and knowledge of the game is limited to the press conferences and the odd official Xbox video, which probably describes most of the consumer base. I don't doubt that you've made it clear in posts, it just hasn't been done in any of the more visible mainstream channels, and said channels have actually suggested just the opposite as I've pointed out. You can't get up on stage talking about 1080p/60* (*Multiplayer) or release a video extolling the virtues of the 1080p/60 Campaign* (*Everything but Halo 2) with these hidden asterisks and not expect people to apply it to the whole package if this is their only exposure to the game (which it is for probably a vast majority of people). I'm not arguing for fun or trolling, this news legitimately blind sided me as I was 100% convinced the game was a lock for 1080p/60 given the way its been presented and unveiled.
I'd like to know as well. Having Halo digitally will be very nice!
Caayn
Member
A small portion of the consumer? Yes. I highly doubt that the vast majority will even notice the drop in (horizontal) resolution.
I'm certainly not surprised, but I can't speak for others.
I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't dictate what a developer must and must not do.
gamechanger87
Member
You are trying to make a stink about something that you have been proven incorrect on over and over in this thread with tons of real life quotes including those from a member of 343 in this thread.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Welfare
Member
What, the very small portion of Gaf that gives a shit?
RandyBobandy
Banned
God I want to play Halo 3 so bad
gamechanger87
Member
It likely wasn't worth trying to jump it and risk 60fps.
Idiots? Really?
There's no changing the meaning of could and couldn't you need to read it again. I couldn't care less is a form of me expression used often to actually mean 'I care very little'. The complete absence of caring would by default almost render the statement unspoken. I could care less means exactly what it reads as, but is informed by context and the way you are using it info the listener to the range of your caring. When people are using 'I could care less' in a situation were people mistakenly saying 'ah you meant to say I couldn't care less' then the speaker is obviously already using it in a context that communicates 'I do not care that much'. The confusion is because people latched onto the phrase 'I couldn't care less' out of laziness, despite it hardly ever being technically accurate and accepted meaning in short hand is different from what the spoken words actually mean.
So how am I the idiot? Do tell.
Well if both engines are running simultaneously wouldn't the doubling of effects etc but more strain on the GPU and fill rate. If you were disabling/enabling the two engine, that would probably cause hitching when you switched between them. Imagine what could start breaking if you started spamming it while online.
If that's the case, good decision. Frame rate is far more important.
Item 5 always happens.
Haha I hope not too much!
professor_t
Member
I bet it will look amazing (it's certainly possible for a sub-1080p game to look fantastic, with Ryse and Sunset Overdrive as exhibits A and B on this very console), but I'm not happy with their rationale. The switching might be cool the first time I do it, but I doubt I'll play with the feature more than a handful of times.
By comparison, a higher resolution is something that I would appreciate for just about every moment of the entire game.
Nevertheless, this does almost nothing to dull my excitement for what will almost certainly by my GOTY.
By comparison, a higher resolution is something that I would appreciate for just about every moment of the entire game.
Nevertheless, this does almost nothing to dull my excitement for what will almost certainly by my GOTY.