martino
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if you count backwards...sure, ps3 make a titan jump...
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Has the PS4 surpassed the previous three consoles in terms of quality? (Answer: no.)
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if you count backwards...sure, ps3 make a titan jump...
Manmademan
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Not true at all. 4 is a very good game. It's just not a particularly good silent hill game since its so different from the rest of the series, and has only tenuous links to the mythology.
Origins was originally a psp game and this shows...it's not bad but it's limited in what it tries to do. Shattered memories is really divisive. I don't like the game, but some people swear by it.
MGS5 might be one of the worst MGS console titles... and it's still an amazing game (which is to say how high the bar is for MGS)
Blueingreen
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Well there you go, 5 Silent Hills in one gen. Let's ask Konami to see if we'll get one..oh yeah lol, 6th gen was insanity in the amount of games released.
Lionel Richie
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Calm waterfall
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No it has not.
kunonabi
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4 is a piece of shit regardless of the name on the box.
facetheslayer92
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This actually reminds me that there was something special about sitting a foot away from a small TV and playing games with a wired joystick. Gen 6 was the end of that.
Mass_Pincup
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PS2 has like 2 or 3 times as many good/great games as the PS4.
Very little chance it gets dethroned.
Very little chance it gets dethroned.
Hellz no. XV isn't even better than any of the XIII games. X-2 and XII are so much more superior to XV, they aren't even playing in the same league.
OT, loool. PS4 library cant touch PS1, PS2, Gamecube library at all.
What?!?
No. I'm not sure if it can even surpass the PS1 or 2. Maybe PS3.
We don't have a Red Dead game yet. No new Grand Theft Auto. No God of War. We had 1 Uncharted game, 1 R&C game, an awful LBP... In fact now that i'm going through what we've had... the PS4 isn't close to greatness yet. Give it another 5 years and then we can talk.
No. I'm not sure if it can even surpass the PS1 or 2. Maybe PS3.
We don't have a Red Dead game yet. No new Grand Theft Auto. No God of War. We had 1 Uncharted game, 1 R&C game, an awful LBP... In fact now that i'm going through what we've had... the PS4 isn't close to greatness yet. Give it another 5 years and then we can talk.
sugarhigh4242
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Yeah, and even stranger is that MS is struggling to make up the difference with quality exclusives. PS3 took a serious beating for the first 2 years, but Sony's first party studios worked overtime to build an exclusive library, while the hardware engineers revised the system so that the price could be slashed. In the end PS3 has my largest personal game library since NES. There's not much reason to think MS is in a position to flex their first party development in the same way.
I haven't liked a Nintendo console since N64. I think their longstanding franchises are pretty stale, and they've struggled to make compelling new ones at the AAA level. To me, Switch looks like a lot of smart moves. I'm excited about the hybrid console/portable design, the hardware looks like something an adult might own. There's some weird decisions that might kill it (paid online, confusing controller situation, no conventional tablet functionality), but it's the first Nintendo console that remotely appeals to me in a long time.
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Hell no. It's actually by far the worst of the bunch.
Astral Dog
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What the fuck dude
flintstryker
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Come on bro, of course not and I highly doubt it will surpass Ps2 by the end of its lifespan either
Hmm. I think this is another poor question at this point.
First and foremost you're comparing a console during its lifetime to the full lifetime of previous consoles, that makes no sense and is frankly a lousy basis for a comparison
Second, you're wording mixes up notions of quality and quantity. You talk about quality but then clearly refer to quantity in terms of size of library. You're mixing up the comparison points.
Thirdly, games take longer to make now, require more content in many cases (more detailed textures, etc) and given that speed of content creation arguably hasn't kept pace with this for bigger titles the number of titles almost certainly has to reduce over time
If we are talking quality what do you mean? Average review score? Critical reception? Sales volume?
Anyway all that said I kind of get what you mean and the answer is "probably not" or at least not at this point.
PS2 had huge library and a lot of very successful hits and huge software sales by dint of size of install base (which gives it a huge advantage as it's ahead of anything else) and the fact it's dominance also gifted it a lot of exclusives and made it the platform of choice for most developers.
The PS4 though I think is doing very well in terms of new IP mixed with old IP and very well reviewed and varied games.
First and foremost you're comparing a console during its lifetime to the full lifetime of previous consoles, that makes no sense and is frankly a lousy basis for a comparison
Second, you're wording mixes up notions of quality and quantity. You talk about quality but then clearly refer to quantity in terms of size of library. You're mixing up the comparison points.
Thirdly, games take longer to make now, require more content in many cases (more detailed textures, etc) and given that speed of content creation arguably hasn't kept pace with this for bigger titles the number of titles almost certainly has to reduce over time
If we are talking quality what do you mean? Average review score? Critical reception? Sales volume?
Anyway all that said I kind of get what you mean and the answer is "probably not" or at least not at this point.
PS2 had huge library and a lot of very successful hits and huge software sales by dint of size of install base (which gives it a huge advantage as it's ahead of anything else) and the fact it's dominance also gifted it a lot of exclusives and made it the platform of choice for most developers.
The PS4 though I think is doing very well in terms of new IP mixed with old IP and very well reviewed and varied games.
Manmademan
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People don't seem to grasp what a juggernaut the Ps2 actually was. Off the top of my head there were 1800 RETAIL games released in the US, with 450 of those being exclusive.
The worldwide total was even bigger. No system was anywhere close to that before release and no system is touching it in the near future.
No, to answer the question, but damn i'm having more fun this gen probably because i missed out on most of the ps2 gen cos of other interests, i missed out on one of the greats, but when i saw that last conference and crash was announced i was over the moon. Also this gen i have played some games, in series i previously not tried.
Having all the demos to download has been great like trying my first ever Final Fantasy World of & Nier (i wouldve never had any
Interest if not for the demo)
Sone full games i own
Witcher 3
Hitman - Love this game
Uncharted 4
Metal Gear Solid 5
Some games i own now where i never tried the previous instalments (except hitman, played the first few Hitman games)
Having all the demos to download has been great like trying my first ever Final Fantasy World of & Nier (i wouldve never had any
Interest if not for the demo)
Sone full games i own
Witcher 3
Hitman - Love this game
Uncharted 4
Metal Gear Solid 5
Some games i own now where i never tried the previous instalments (except hitman, played the first few Hitman games)
Theslammer
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Ask me again once this generation is finished. I wasn't calling the PS2 the best ever at the beginning of 2004 (which is the equivalent time point we're at right now), but it sure as hell was the best by 2008.
Magicpaint
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PS1 and PS2 are GOAT tier.
PS1.... At that age I was playing on any platform and since console gaming was more expensive than PC gaming I didn't have that many games... though we did have some great family fun playing on it.
PS2 BEST. tons of titles from skateboarding games to all sorts of other games of excellent quality and really tore me away from the PC gaming side.
PS3 half the generation I spent PC and not even interested... then I grew up and caved in and got a slim and started loving all the games that had come out and PS+ was an added bonus since I got lots of titles I wouldn't have been able to afford. Skate 3 was my most played
PS4 Fulltime gaming on it. annnd nothing too memorable to be honest except maybe Overwatch.
I like PS4 but it has had a rough first half imho.
PS2 BEST. tons of titles from skateboarding games to all sorts of other games of excellent quality and really tore me away from the PC gaming side.
PS3 half the generation I spent PC and not even interested... then I grew up and caved in and got a slim and started loving all the games that had come out and PS+ was an added bonus since I got lots of titles I wouldn't have been able to afford. Skate 3 was my most played
PS4 Fulltime gaming on it. annnd nothing too memorable to be honest except maybe Overwatch.
I like PS4 but it has had a rough first half imho.
sugarhigh4242
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Yeah, and there's good reasons to believe PS4 will also hit its stride this year. We're off to a good start with Horizon. Looking at the calendar, this year is going to break my wallet if all the heavy-hitters meet their deadlines.
Some Nobody
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Exactly this.
That's fine. A couple of my favorite systems are N64 and GCN but I know they fall way short of their respective rivals. I think the issue some people were having here is that a declarative statement was made in your OP, but actual reality goes completely against it. Otherwise I do respect your opinion that PS4 is your favorite system ever.
I thought you were using the different scores as an example of reviewers being more critical now. (When really, its an example of reviewers being too lenient today since a repackaged game got a extremely high score) if not, then disregard.
Theslammer
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Yup, and if they play as good as they look, which thankfully Horizon is right now.
And to clarify: at the beginning of 04, PS2 was a great console, same as PS4 is now. But there was still so much more to come.
Well PS4 has been great for me.
Bloodborne
Uncharted 4
MGSV
Witcher 3
FFXV
World of final fantasy
Rise of the tomb raider
Nioh
RE7
Gravity Rush 2
Dragonball Xenoverse
Until Dawn
Infamous second son/First light
Overwatch
Dark Souls 3
Fallout 4
Black Ops 3
Battlefield 1
Doom
Ratchet & Clank
Arkham Knight.
That's a pretty good list. And then when add the upcoming games you got
Horizon zero dawn
Persona 5
Nier Automata
Red Dead 2
TLOU2
Nino Kuni 2
Detroit
Days Gone
Death Stranding
Mass Effect A
God of War
Destiny 2
Crash Remaster ect.
It beats PS3/360 in my opinion. Has the potential to surpass the PS1. And it's not Impossible to match the glorious PS2 lineup.
Bloodborne
Uncharted 4
MGSV
Witcher 3
FFXV
World of final fantasy
Rise of the tomb raider
Nioh
RE7
Gravity Rush 2
Dragonball Xenoverse
Until Dawn
Infamous second son/First light
Overwatch
Dark Souls 3
Fallout 4
Black Ops 3
Battlefield 1
Doom
Ratchet & Clank
Arkham Knight.
That's a pretty good list. And then when add the upcoming games you got
Horizon zero dawn
Persona 5
Nier Automata
Red Dead 2
TLOU2
Nino Kuni 2
Detroit
Days Gone
Death Stranding
Mass Effect A
God of War
Destiny 2
Crash Remaster ect.
It beats PS3/360 in my opinion. Has the potential to surpass the PS1. And it's not Impossible to match the glorious PS2 lineup.
PS4 is pretty close imo. It's on par with PS3 and I already put it above PS1. So PS2>>PS4=PS3>>PS1.
Yeah that was hilarious. There are a ton of games I'd rank above MGS2, MGSV being one of them.
PS2 is just too hard to top.
Yeah that was hilarious. There are a ton of games I'd rank above MGS2, MGSV being one of them.
PS2 is just too hard to top.
MGSV is the only MGS that actually controls well and feels enjoyable to play. This is coming from a massive fan of the 3rd one. The franchise is often excused for its apparent weaknesses for some reason.
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OP you must be joking.
Rhe console is incresinle, but the content is lacking sorely.
Rhe console is incresinle, but the content is lacking sorely.
Begaria
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With the releases coming this first half of the year, I can conclude in my personal opinion:
PS2 = PS4 > PS1 > PS3
PS1 had some of my favorite games, but I tend to add them into my PS2 library since the PS2 was Backwards Compatible. PS4 has some of my favorite games on it, getting sequels to the games I liked on PS3, and has some of the damn good PS2/PS3 games remastered (or re-released like Dark Cloud 1/2/Rogue Galaxy) on it, so I count those on PS4 as well.
It hasn't surpassed the PS2 for me at the moment, but I feel equally as strong about the PS4 as I did for the PS2.
PS2 = PS4 > PS1 > PS3
PS1 had some of my favorite games, but I tend to add them into my PS2 library since the PS2 was Backwards Compatible. PS4 has some of my favorite games on it, getting sequels to the games I liked on PS3, and has some of the damn good PS2/PS3 games remastered (or re-released like Dark Cloud 1/2/Rogue Galaxy) on it, so I count those on PS4 as well.
It hasn't surpassed the PS2 for me at the moment, but I feel equally as strong about the PS4 as I did for the PS2.
Preach! MGSV has set the bar for how 3rd person games should control. Everything else feels like a let down in comparison.
KZObsessed
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I think by the end if it's life it will, but not yet. Needs more time, more releases.
Yeah, the previous iterations are very sluggish and weighted. Almost, but not really, tank controls.
Blam
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Frankly nothing can compare to the life cycle of the PS2, that game had so many hits on it, and games that I would keep going back to play that there's honestly no way the PS4 could do it. Unless they release a new Jax, new Ratchet or remaster Deadlocked, do another Shadow of the Colossus. Another Sly Cooper, and a shitload of sleeper hits then maybe, but that's not going to happen.
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As someone not interested in portables, I'm struggling to find appeal as it's clearly underpowered and over priced as a console, especially since I'd also want the pro controller.
I'll play the wait and see game with it for sure to see if they do any revisions with console only versions, or wait for a good deal/bundle/price drop before buying in if not to take the sting off playing for features I won't use.
InsaneFandom
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I'd say it's very close to beating PS3 - probably will have surpassed it by the end of year.
As for PS1 & PS2 it's hard to say - nostalgia is a factor with those & the PS4 is probably not going come close in terms of fresh/innovative/'game-changing' games
On a personal level though I already prefer it to PS1/2. PS3 is still my favorite atm
As for PS1 & PS2 it's hard to say - nostalgia is a factor with those & the PS4 is probably not going come close in terms of fresh/innovative/'game-changing' games
On a personal level though I already prefer it to PS1/2. PS3 is still my favorite atm
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