Yeah my gaming laptop with a GT 555M ran the beta perfectly well. Dat Source engine.
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Have you seen Titanfall (Xbox 360)?
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Yeah my gaming laptop with a GT 555M ran the beta perfectly well. Dat Source engine.
Why do they have to, exactly? I'm sure it will look decent for what the 360 is capable of. Bluepoint is a competent studio if their past pedigree means anything to you.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
In all reality, they probably don't want people to see what MGS showed: The Xbox one version is going to look marginally better.
CamHostage
Member
We won't see it til the Xbox 360 version comes out, even. As Wii/DS/PSP owners are well aware of, the lesser versions are not just under-reported, but strategically buried by the PR managers in order to focus attention, even if those versions might be perfectly good products.
Right, and people seem to think that a product is doomed to fail if there's no advertising for a game, but there are plenty of ways to get the word out these days, and especially with a long-tail game like TitanFall, the trade-off of putting in priorities one direction might work better than having no emphasis. Activision made four or so Call of Duty games on Wii without ever showing a screenshot before launch (also a few DS games, though I think those got previews because they most often had a different title) and they all sold enough to continue supporting the platform despite it requiring a different team and an overhaul of the visuals. TitanFall 360 should be able to piggyback the primary game without too much of its own push.
Alcoholikaust
Member
Such a great setup for "first world problems"
-alas, I am curious to see how this pans out, I have 2 nephews that want this for 360
TrojanBlade
Member
Bet MS paid EA real good money to hide the 360 and keep it away from PS4. It must have compensated all the PS4 sales for sure. Glad they didn't force them to hide or delay PC. But MS can be really brutal and a-holes for these exclusive deals.
I think many GAFers know that but lots of people get antsy if a game isn't shown before launch. It reads as a sign of weakness, like something is being hidden.
famousmortimer
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Because the 360 version will use lesser assets, geometry, and resolution to do its best to remain at 60fps?
No one is expecting it to look like the xb1 version. They just want it to look like a 360 game and be playable. I will be shocked if it doesn't succeed at that. Bluepoint do good work.
Mikey Jr.
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Not saying they have to, but you don't find it strange?
They don't want you to see how similar the 360 version looks to the One version graphically. Even the PC version looks like a shoddy up-port of a last gen game, wouldn't be surprised if the 2 Xbox versions look fairly similar with 360 being a bit blurrier because of slightly lower res.
They also paid to keep it off of PS3, and portability to PS3 was a part of their decision making process for going with Source Engine to begin with. I'm really curious how much money MS paid.
That's a good question. You'd think they'd want to sell copies to the 80 million 360 owners out there...
Even if you think that MS delayed a game they don't own, do you honestly think that there will be a miniscule different between the 360 and Xbox One version? A console with 512MB of ram vs one with 8GB. With the X1 being at least 8x faster than the 360. I do think that Titanfall isn't that great looking, yet there is a lot going on in that game. There will be a obvious difference.
Goodacre0081
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the PS3 is where EA loses the most sales. Im willing to bet MS was pushing for XB1 only but it needed to offset a 160million userbase in 360/PS3.
that might be in the contract, MS has the exclusive rights to advertize the Xbox versions.
famousmortimer
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Usually, yes. But I'm guessing that this is part of the exclusivity moneyhat. Because if I'm EA i'm pushing the shit out of the 360 version even if it's awful... because 80 million consoles vs 3-4 million consoles isn't even a competition on which *should* sell more.
companies cut these kinds of advertising deals all the time tho
SenjutsuSage
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I suspect people are underestimating Titanfall here. It may not be the most graphically stunning game, but it's pretty busy in terms of action and visual effects nonetheless. As it appears on the xbox one it's definitely a touch more demanding than I think the Xbox 360 can handle. So I think there will be some potentially bigger and more noticeable differences between the 360 version of the game and the Xbox One version than some are thinking. The texture quality alone should be a challenge to replicate on the 360, let alone everything else.
I'd love to be proven wrong, since I'd like to see the game do as well as possible, but we'll see in time, I guess.
ShinMaruku
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They need it to lead on xbone so while yes it will most likley sell best on 360/pc they need a flag ship xbone title at this junction.
What settings did you use?
TrojanBlade
Member
Yep that is correct ... They lost all the PS3 sales which is a lot bigger. I am surprised EA went for it which only says they got tons of money for this deal. Wonder how quickly they bring the next TF to PS4/PS3.
Freedom = $1.05
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having a laptop with the same graphics card I'm going to assume 720p with possibly insane textures (my 555m has 3 gigs) and maybe AA at above 30 fps.
Spottiettiedop
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Or how much MS pays to keep it off PS3/PS4.
It looks like Microsoft is doing all the marketing and is actually working against EA's interests by concentrating only on the Xbone versiod and neglecting potential Xbox 360 games sales. This is not the way to establish a contender for COD's throne.
Reminds me a lot of what happened last gen with most SD (Wii/PS2) or handheld (DS/PSP) versions of multiplatform games... actually, it still happens with handheld version of multiplatform games. Probably this won't be nearly as half-assed as those, though.
And of course it's probably in Microsoft's best interest to focus on the Xbone version in the name of moving consoles.
And of course it's probably in Microsoft's best interest to focus on the Xbone version in the name of moving consoles.
SenjutsuSage
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lol you're insane. If you think it's going to be easy for the 360 to match what's on display in the xbox one version while also being 60fps, I have a bridge to sell you.
Also, I think bluepoint has a lot more integrity than you're giving them credit for. Paid to make a shitty product? I don't think you comprehend how EA, let alone Respawn themselves, would respond to that. Beyond that, just because Microsoft wants to push the Xbox One version and hopes its a hit, doesn't mean they don't have a real stake in the 360 version selling as many copies for EA and Respawn as at all possible.
TrojanBlade
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Oh one more thought: I hope this deal bites MS & EA in the ass real bad. I hate 3rd party exclusives especially they way MS does it.
Goodacre0081
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it could also alienate EA
ChosenPredator
Banned
if they buy titanfall and respawn bails out on them they can revert to the devs that created the 360 version to carry on titanfall 2 lol
meanspartan
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I think it will be comparable to the difference between BF4 on last gen and BF4 on current gen/pc, but without the player count drop since it is already 6 v 6 only.
Basically a much "muddier" look, presumably sub-720p resolution stretched out a la last gen Call of Duty. But I bet it will still hit 60fps or close to it.
For those that don't have any sort of gaming PC and also don't own an Xbox One, I'm sure if they are ok with the graphics being a little yucky this will still be a perfectly playable and fun game on the Xbox 360 given that Bluepoint is good at what they do.
Lol are u serious?
The x1 is way more powerful then the 360. I'm beginning to wonder if they are holding it back based on how ugly it will look
ShinMaruku
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You give EA too much credit.
meanspartan
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Or maybe they have a deal to keep quiet about the 360 version until after the X1 version launches, and then EA has the go-ahead to go crazy with the 360 advertising of the game.
famousmortimer
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That's exactly what I'm expecting.
Even uglier than the Xbox One version already looks? Hardly.
Goodacre0081
Member
not really same deal but I do remember EA and Nintendos "unprecedented partnership" a few year ago.
I would have thought the opposite. The GPU differences between the 360 and XB1 are huge, where as the CPU differences are less. Remember, the 360 has a triple core 3.2GHz PowerPC based CPU with each core being two thread capable.
I don't know off the top of my head theoretical peak CPU performance between the two, but the performance difference is much less than the GPU difference.
True, but the reason why older PC's with mediocre video cards are blowing through this game so easily is because PC CPU's have been powerhouses compared to console CPU's for years. Source Engine is CPU bound.
Maybe it will be fine, but with AI and titans and greater physics calculations with the greater movement, I'm not convinced.
Because it looks like a 360 game, and isn't ready.
This would be great for Titanfall and MS, but impossible.
Zomba13
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Everyone on the other team is a hacking cunt. Always. It's never my fault I suck at a game. Always the other team using hacks.
Always.
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I have a feeling they don't want to show it to avoid graphical comparisons.
The 360 being in the last stages of its life the game probably looks pretty decent on it.
The 360 being in the last stages of its life the game probably looks pretty decent on it.
Beerman462
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Considering how Titanfall looks graphics wise and how well other cross gens like Ghosts and even Metal Gear turned out, I expect 360 Titanfall to be a great version and probably the best selling.
grosvenor_92
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They wanna make sure the xbox one sells a lot of copies and to get more people to transition over to the new consoles.