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Hiroshi Yamauchi dies at 85 (Nikkei)

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the video game industry would be years behind,
or completely different if it wasn't for this dude.

RIP

Absolutely completely different. Nintendo aside, there's a very good chance there'd be no Playstation nor Xbox if it wasn't for him. I'm surprised / disappointed gaming media aren't covering it a little more.
 

mantidor

Member
Absolutely completely different. Nintendo aside, there's a very good chance there'd be no Playstation nor Xbox if it wasn't for him. I'm surprised / disappointed gaming media aren't covering it a little more.


Not surprised in the least, like if we needed more proof the gaming media is a complete joke, even the local newspapers are reporting on it.
 

twinturbo2

butthurt Heat fan
So, what happens to the Seattle Mariners? Best case scenario is that Mark Cuban buys the team and is Bud Selig's headache now.
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Even though according to him I'm a depressed person who likes to play slow games in a dark room, I still have to pay my respects. RIP to a legend.
 

_S4MUR4I_

Member
Still can't believe that nintendo used to make cards at the begining of their journey. Still touched with that IGN arcticle. Rest in peace Mr. Yamauchi, hope your company still make us proud to be gamers.
 

MisterHero

Super Member
So Yamauchi is dead, eh? Heard it on NPR during my drive back.

Very influential, no one can deny otherwise. Yet during his twilight years before he "stepped down" it was clear he had become inflexible and VERY ornery. remember this?

A CEO with that kind of outlook is just incomprehensible now. I'm sure we're in the middle of a ton of H.Yamauchi love at the moment, but one could say he was easily as much of a liability as an asset.

I compose this post not to praise Caesar, but to bury him...
next to the wiiU
He didn't have know about games or design because he was wise enough to leave those issues to people who knew what they were doing (Yokoi, Miyamoto, Iwata, etc.).

He just made sure that they were sustainable and profitable above all else. There are a few publishers today that remember the latter but forget the former.
 

PhantomR

Banned
Which is good news considering his track record in opposing Miyamoto's hiring and saying donkey kong etc sucked and would doom NOA isnt very good for his record

Well....

He also was responsible for creating NST, responsible for having Digipen on Nintendo's campus for years (which provided NST with a lot of young talent), and fully supported and pushed for Rare being more integrated into the Nintendo family.

I'm okay with Iwata, but I truly feel that his biggest failing so far as President was consolidating the vast majority of software development back to Japan. Arakawa-San was very much against that and was a big fan of globalized Nintendo software development.



But let's be real, we all know who needs to come back to run NOA:

howard-lincoln.jpg
 

weevles

Member
If anything, Yamauchi was able to find and surround himself with the right creative and technical people at the right time. This serendipity, shrewd business sense and persistence drove Nintendo to revitalize the home video game industry. Funny how far he went despite being so detached from the things his company created.
 
So Yamauchi is dead, eh? Heard it on NPR during my drive back.

Very influential, no one can deny otherwise. Yet during his twilight years before he "stepped down" it was clear he had become inflexible and VERY ornery. remember this?



A CEO with that kind of outlook is just incomprehensible now. I'm sure we're in the middle of a ton of H.Yamauchi love at the moment, but one could say he was easily as much of a liability as an asset.

I compose this post not to praise Caesar, but to bury him...
next to the wiiU

its the same as jobs..when you are dead all your past sins seems to evaporate in a mist of fervent love

rip but for me the true legends of nintendo were the developers..these people where the ones who made the games
 

antonz

Member
its the same as jobs..when you are dead all your past sins seems to evaporate in a mist of fervent love

rip but for me the true legends of nintendo were the developers..these people where the ones who made the games

Yamauchi ranks a lot lower on the asshole tree than Jobs.


Many of the things people bitch about Yamauchi over were things that benefitted gamers. He took a strong line on opposing shovelware which of course pissed off publishers who back in the 80s were eager to shovel out the shit as much as they could shovel out a gem.
 

Tripon

Member
So, what happens to the Seattle Mariners? Best case scenario is that Mark Cuban buys the team and is Bud Selig's headache now.

The shares Yamaguchi had was transferred to NOA in a trust in around 2003/2004. NOA still has those shares, and has been the majority owner of the Seattle Mariners ever since then.

NOA just made Yamaguchi like honorary chairman of the trust or something to be the defacto owner of the Mariners.

Most likely scenario is that NOA still keeps majority ownership and lets Howard Lincoln still run the team.
 

Shikamaru Ninja

任天堂 の 忍者
its the same as jobs..when you are dead all your past sins seems to evaporate in a mist of fervent love

rip but for me the true legends of nintendo were the developers..these people where the ones who made the games

Yamauchi turned Nintendo into a video game company. Yamauchi approved several "wacky" and "risky" ideas that became hardware and software. Yamauchi wasn't as conservative and stubborn as some of the posts above fictionally cite, he supposedly was quite the conversationist and believed in giving his employees autonomy and opportunity to present unconventional ideas.

Yamauchi also believed his development teams should compete against each other, and act in complete secrecy.
 

Herne

Member
Much respect to a legendary hard ass... without him there would be no Nintendo, and that's a world much poorer off.

RIP
 

Herne

Member
Apologies if this has been answered, but do any of his kids work for the company still? Did he even have kids?

His daughter married Minoru Arakawa, who started up Nintendo of America and ran it for something like a decade and a half. I think he has a son who worked in advertising. I'm not sure of any others.
 

PhantomR

Banned
Yamauchi also believed his development teams should compete against each other, and act in complete secrecy.

Yes, he was very famous for this. I actually think that creating EAD gave Miyamoto-San a little too much power in the company. It did create for a tense environment, but I feel that it was much better when there were separate R&D teams who only focused on beating one another at making the best games. That's what really drove a lot of Nintendo's creative juices.
 

Scum

Junior Member
;_;

Well....

He also was responsible for creating NST, responsible for having Digipen on Nintendo's campus for years (which provided NST with a lot of young talent), and fully supported and pushed for Rare being more integrated into the Nintendo family.

I'm okay with Iwata, but I truly feel that his biggest failing so far as President was consolidating the vast majority of software development back to Japan. Arakawa-San was very much against that and was a big fan of globalized Nintendo software development.

But let's be real, we all know who needs to come back to run NOA:

howard-lincoln.jpg

Maybe this was the disagreement in visions between Yamauchi and Arawaka. Hence why Iwata has the job now. But to be honest, it'll be bloody good for Iwata to follow up on Arakawa's idea.
Oh, and NoA needs a figurehead, as soon as possible. They're a shambles.

Yamauchi turned Nintendo into a video game company. Yamauchi approved several "wacky" and "risky" ideas that became hardware and software. Yamauchi wasn't as conservative and stubborn as some of the posts above fictionally cite, he supposedly was quite the conversationist and believed in giving his employees autonomy and opportunity to present unconventional ideas.

Yamauchi also believed his development teams should compete against each other, and act in complete secrecy.
I wonder if they still do this, to this day...
 

Shikamaru Ninja

任天堂 の 忍者
Yes, he was very famous for this. I actually think that creating EAD gave Miyamoto-San a little too much power in the company. It did create for a tense environment, but I feel that it was much better when there were separate R&D teams who only focused on beating one another at making the best games. That's what really drove a lot of Nintendo's creative juices.

It was Iwata who restructured the R&D and sort of lopsided internal development under Miyamoto / Tezuka.


I wonder if they still do this, to this day...

Nope. They don't. Well the secrecy part is still a yes of course.
 

Scum

Junior Member
It was Iwata who restructured the R&D and sort of lopsided internal development under Miyamoto / Tezuka.

Nope. They don't. Well the secrecy part is still a yes of course.

Bah. Time to send Arakawa over to NCL for a two years. Lay down the foundations and threaten them with dat 10%. :p
 

Codeblue

Member
its the same as jobs..when you are dead all your past sins seems to evaporate in a mist of fervent love

rip but for me the true legends of nintendo were the developers..these people where the ones who made the games

Yamauchi turned everything he touched to gold.

Find out your maintenance guy tinkers with toys in his spare time? Hire him to make big name toys and eventually the Gameboy.

Some guy brings you puppets during an interview? Assign him to make the arcade game that would launch you into dominating the video game market for a decade or two despite the rest of your company objecting.

He didn't hire talented developers. He saw talent and brought it out in people. People like Miyamoto and Yokoi are still legends, don't get me wrong, but who knows what they'd be doing if a shrewd businessman didn't see greatness in them.

Also, can I get the original source for that "RPG gamers are depressed nerds" thing? I can only find an IGN article that sources a 1999 interview that I can't find. Not that I find it hard to believe but it could be like the "suck my yellow balls" quote.
 
Yamauchi ranks a lot lower on the asshole tree than Jobs.


Many of the things people bitch about Yamauchi over were things that benefitted gamers. He took a strong line on opposing shovelware which of course pissed off publishers who back in the 80s were eager to shovel out the shit as much as they could shovel out a gem.

you mean the infamous nintendo seal? that worked wonders

well a serious discussion about the dark side of this man will be made one day..but not now..not here

time to bail out
 

onilink88

Member
you mean the infamous nintendo seal? that worked wonders

well a serious discussion about the dark side of this man will be made one day..but not now..not here

time to bail out

Anyone who knows Yamauchi - even on a casual basis - knows that the man was far from a saint. Many people in this very thread acknowledge his less-than-friendly (or, if you want to be brunt, "assholyness") demeanor and his heavy-handed and sometimes unethical business practices. But for fuck' sake, today is the day of his passing; of course people are going to focus on his more positive contributions when they reminisce about him. :/
 

Game Guru

Member
you mean the infamous nintendo seal? that worked wonders

well a serious discussion about the dark side of this man will be made one day..but not now..not here

time to bail out

I would like to point out that shovelware was a lot worse in the days of Atari, Coleco, and Mattel than it ever was after that. Hell, the whole North America Video Game Market crashed due in part to shovelware. The NES may've had bad games, but even something like the first TMNT game is of a vastly greater quality than what counted as shovelware on the 2600.
 

Jintor

Member
you mean the infamous nintendo seal? that worked wonders

You know the Nintendo Seal of Quality referred to whether or not Nintendo had officially licenced the item in question (in the sense that it wasn't going to hard lock your system), not as a mark of the game's quality?
 

Speevy

Banned
It's funny that just a bit more than ten years ago, people were glad at his retirement.

Death offers a bit of perspective I think.
 

Balb

Member
It's funny that just a bit more than ten years ago, people were glad at his retirement.

Death offers a bit of perspective I think.

Don't see how these two things can't go hand in hand. Most people have an expiration date as far as running companies go. That doesn't take away the great things he did for the company (and industry).
 

A.Romero

Member
I remember thinking very highly of Yamauchi when I was very young. Now, that I know more about him, not so much.

I think anyone trying to argue about the influence this guy had on the industry is really just trying really hard to troll.

Would the industry be the same if this guy worked for another company? Most likely. Would we have video games in some form without him? I'm pretty sure yes.

Would we have the gaming industry as it is right now (for better or worse)? I don't think so.

Geniuses can also be assholes.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
yeah? even more ruthless, or savy, or both? or something else...?
Saavy, perhaps. And its Yamauchi so of course, ruthless. It's just interesting to see how it was not a foregone conclusion that Famicom would be a success or have third party games. It was even less of a foregone conclusion that it would come to America. It wouldn't have happened without clever leadership. We tend to think of consoles rolling out worldwide as a natural thing, but it really was just a random Japanese toy that ballooned into something bigger than anyone could have imagined.
 
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